Bad Wigins you are so stunningly ignorant. You think a runner does not decline much from age 42 to age 46? It is as if you have a low IQ, but it appears you do not have a low IQ but you just are so ignorant about certain things, and then your arrogance rivals your ignorance. What is the world record for a mile at age 46? You have no clue.
Jimmio wrote:
shehanvrg4hejsb wrote:
Maybe they are just two of his favourite runners? As well as Jakob being clear betting favourite for silver.
TBH it would be hard to pick an African behind Tim because most have been busted.
Another lie. It is amazing the ignorance that exists here.
Managoi, Kiprop, busted, Big Mac half busted. To be fair, the poster was hardly 'racist' in picking Tim to win over Jakob and the rest. We don't know how Manangoi's ban will affect Tim - he certainly looked terrible in his last race (800m). We don't know how much Jakob, Wightman and Kerr will have improved. We know McSweyn is still making giant leaps forward. No doubt a Kenyan will pop up and be a threat this year (and get popped in a couple of years), but listing Jakob, Wightman, Kerr, and McSweyn as the main threats to Tim is reasonable.
Nick Willis just making another Olympic final would be an incredible accomplishment and something never done before. That's what is likely keeping him going.
Would also be great for Sam Tanner and New Zealand if both get to Tokyo.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
Once you get to your mid to late 40's it's time to put the competitive racing on the shelf...As a runner you're not going to live much if any longer than the average person. That's is years of your remaining life you waste training for some kinda glory when time it is for you retire travel the world.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Lagat could do it now at age 46 if he took a notion. He was running 3:54i and 13:06 5 and 4 years ago, and going from 42 to 46 is not a steep drop if you stay in shape, which he did with the road racing.
They should do what they love to do. Lagat probably makes a nice income from both competing and his social media. He also gets to travel the world btw, as does Nick.
Bad Wigins wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
Good content ?
Steve Scott managed 15–might be the American Record. Lagat could surely have managed 20+ if it were his priority, I’d think.
Lagat could do it now at age 46 if he took a notion. He was running 3:54i and 13:06 5 and 4 years ago, and going from 42 to 46 is not a steep drop if you stay in shape, which he did with the road racing.
You have a really weird obsession with Lagat running a mile again. I’ve noticed multiple posts from you in multiple threads. What’s the deal, dude?
Coevett wrote:
Jimmio wrote:
Another lie. It is amazing the ignorance that exists here.
Managoi, Kiprop, busted, Big Mac half busted. To be fair, the poster was hardly 'racist' in picking Tim to win over Jakob and the rest. We don't know how Manangoi's ban will affect Tim - he certainly looked terrible in his last race (800m). We don't know how much Jakob, Wightman and Kerr will have improved. We know McSweyn is still making giant leaps forward. No doubt a Kenyan will pop up and be a threat this year (and get popped in a couple of years), but listing Jakob, Wightman, Kerr, and McSweyn as the main threats to Tim is reasonable.
Nick Willis just making another Olympic final would be an incredible accomplishment and something never done before. That's what is likely keeping him going.
Yeah we know you prefer the whites who are so damn clean they you likely want to smell them. All you can do is list whites who you think will do well and then disparage blacks by saying they will get busted even if they do well. Your rants are getting rather stale.
Yeah, it's racist to think that Willis, Wightman and Kerr are cleaner than Manangoi or Kiprop, especially when they're have been no busts in 30 years for Brits or NZ distance runners compared to over 150 East Africans, including Manangoi and Kiprop.
Jakob will be the favorite by the time the Olympics get here.
Coevett wrote:
Yeah, it's racist to think that Willis, Wightman and Kerr are cleaner than Manangoi or Kiprop, especially when they're have been no busts in 30 years for Brits or NZ distance runners compared to over 150 East Africans, including Manangoi and Kiprop.
You have an odd obsession with Kenyans. Perhaps your heart was broken by a Kenyan man back in the day and you've been taking it out on them on message boards ever since? I mean you have this incredible ability to derail every thread into sh!tposts about thinly veiled racial bias disguised as concerns about doping. Perhaps if you are so concerned about doping, get more involved in the anti-doping effort rather than post here?
This thread is about Nick Willis and his incredible running achievement. Huge achievement to pull this off for 19 straight years. That will be a tough record to break simply because so many elite runners lose the motivation or get injured during such a timespan.
John Wesley Harding wrote:
Steve Scott managed 15–might be the American Record. Lagat could surely have managed 20+ if it were his priority, I’d think.
But Lagat DIDN'T, and he makes no claim to it. SHOULD HAVE is meaningless. There are "should have" stories in just about every endeavor. By the way, Alan Webb "should have" won an Olympic medal. Jim Ryun "should have" run the mile in blah, blah, blah. Carl Lewis "should have" long jumped blah blah blah.
Lagat has much to celebrate in his stellar career, but running sub-4 for 20+ will never be among his career highlights. END OF STORY.
LappedMiler wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
Steve Scott managed 15–might be the American Record. Lagat could surely have managed 20+ if it were his priority, I’d think.
But Lagat DIDN'T, and he makes no claim to it. SHOULD HAVE is meaningless. There are "should have" stories in just about every endeavor. By the way, Alan Webb "should have" won an Olympic medal. Jim Ryun "should have" run the mile in blah, blah, blah. Carl Lewis "should have" long jumped blah blah blah.
Lagat has much to celebrate in his stellar career, but running sub-4 for 20+ will never be among his career highlights. END OF STORY.
LOL you got lapped.
Happy For Nick wrote:
Jimmio wrote:
You dream of the white guys getting Silver and Bronze? Of course Nick is past his prime for 1500m and has almost ZERO chance of getting another medal.
Yes exactly. Dream. Not reality. I like Jakob's personality from that Team Ingebrigtsen series and I would be more than happy to see Nick Willis sneak a bronze. But its extremely unlikely Nick will be able to medal in either a fast or slow race. I also am not convinced that Jakob has the leg turnover/pace to medal in a slow final, but Cheruiyot probably wont let that happen.
Jimmio is a bad faith troll who should be ignored by anyone wanting to appreciate Nick Willis' accomplishment.
He immediately questions if my intentions are racist....without knowing a single thing about me. When I explain my statement he then ignores it and picks another battle where it is easier to accuse someone else of racism. Just ignore this clown.
I think many of you forget Nick's experimentation to move to 5000m and leave the 1500m as he felt he'd lost his magic... it was a muscular failure, as he stated it... could only turn a 13:20 even though he dedicated a full year of training for the 5000m. Granted, Seb Coe only went 14:00, but Nick does not move up well in distance. He's only run 7:36/13:20... his most recent Tracksmith article he jokes about doing trail runs, FKTs and maybe marathons, but if he was falling apart in a 5000m run and has never been able to hold up for 10,000m, there is no way I see him running 2:13. He is not Bernard Lagat (12:53/27:49).
I'm just wondering why Crimmins even bothered to show up to this race if he was going to go out 4 seconds off the pack through 1200 and close in 59 for a 4:04. Dude has been running under 4:05 for like 8 years, if he hasn't broken 4:00 by now he needs to either take some risks (i.e. don't go out in 3:04 when you're fit) or hang it up.
ing win wrote:
Jakotb will be the favorite by the time the Olympics get here.
He might be the favorite but he is a bit limited tactically so far. I can't see him medaling in a Rio type race. Granted we are talking about a 20 year old. Maybe he has one more jump in him to be a 1:45/3:26 guy this year who can just run a fast 500m off any pace for the win.
It was a lapped course, he dropped out of pacing early and got too close to the finish mat... happens all the time
I would still give top dog status to Walker, given the quality of his races and what sub 3:50 meant back then. We will never know exactly when the effects of Parkinson’s started to impact on Walker.
Happy for Nick wrote:
Happy For Nick wrote:
Yes exactly. Dream. Not reality. I like Jakob's personality from that Team Ingebrigtsen series and I would be more than happy to see Nick Willis sneak a bronze. But its extremely unlikely Nick will be able to medal in either a fast or slow race. I also am not convinced that Jakob has the leg turnover/pace to medal in a slow final, but Cheruiyot probably wont let that happen.
Jimmio is a bad faith troll who should be ignored by anyone wanting to appreciate Nick Willis' accomplishment.
He immediately questions if my intentions are racist....without knowing a single thing about me. When I explain my statement he then ignores it and picks another battle where it is easier to accuse someone else of racism. Just ignore this clown.
I did NOT question whether your intentions are racist. I just found it odd that you are DREAMING about white guys getting medals in the 1500m. It is a bit unusual to say the least. Or maybe many of you have these dreams. This would explain a lot actually.
Jimmio wrote:
Bad Wigins you are so stunningly ignorant. You think a runner does not decline much from age 42 to age 46? It is as if you have a low IQ, but it appears you do not have a low IQ but you just are so ignorant about certain things, and then your arrogance rivals your ignorance. What is the world record for a mile at age 46? You have no clue.
Look, dipwad, Lagat ran a 2:12 mary in 2019 when he was 44 1/2. Just 1 1/2 years ago. Just wipe your hole and quit embarrassing yourself.
Register a name when you start talking sense.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Jimmio wrote:
Bad Wigins you are so stunningly ignorant. You think a runner does not decline much from age 42 to age 46? It is as if you have a low IQ, but it appears you do not have a low IQ but you just are so ignorant about certain things, and then your arrogance rivals your ignorance. What is the world record for a mile at age 46? You have no clue.
Look, dipwad, Lagat ran a 2:12 mary in 2019 when he was 44 1/2. Just 1 1/2 years ago. Just wipe your hole and quit embarrassing yourself.
Register a name when you start talking sense.
A 2:12 marathon is not a 3:54, please.
let me know how you went from 42 to 46