That is how posters look at it. They think their own $100k salary is $100k but they like to put down pros by saying that if they make $150k, they only take home $90k. That way they think they are somehow making more than the pro runner.
That is how posters look at it. They think their own $100k salary is $100k but they like to put down pros by saying that if they make $150k, they only take home $90k. That way they think they are somehow making more than the pro runner.
jiggymeister wrote:
And why does that annoy you?
Who says I am? I am just making an observation.
You are the one who seems annoyed...are you in love with him? Did my observation hurt your feelings?
kmaclam wrote:
I am Sam wrote:
You haven't seen his youtubes?
Hard to imagine he was world class just a few years ago, hard to even imagine he was a serious runner in fact.
I have seen his youtubes. Maybe I am too easily amused but I actually think most of them are entertaining. You must really be dissing Ryan Hall too if you are so put off by elite runners not being able to run like they used to.
Haven't looked at Ryan, but its not about how fast he is going, it's the style of running. I'm sure Ryan still has the same style at slower pace, like most do.
It's just weird that a person with such an ungainly style was that good, that's the amusing thing for me.
Other than that, his youtubes, which spam into my youtube watching when looking at real athletics, are boring and infantile. Why doesn't he use his recognition to deliver real running value, tips, coaching etc. Its rubbish.
If you find them entertaining, then great. Perhaps you are in love with him too.
CaptainPhillips wrote:
He was the top of the top, dude wrote:
Someone who focuses on the marathon has the best bet to make money. For example someone who would finish 25th at the olympic trials marathon can probably run in the 2:13 range on a gentle marathon course. If they pick the right races they could come away with $10k in a couple different marathons each year totaling $20k, and then pick up $500-$1,000 at a handful of other smaller 10k/half marathon races. So this person who is only 25th in their event in the country can make $25k per year, better than most track people outside of the people likely to make the olympics.
Sheesh. 12 bucks an hour to be in the top 0.001% of the population in terms of running talent in the richest country.
Compare that to $277/hr for minimum salary for a major league baseball player. And I am almost certain, aside from any physical body issues (too short, for example), a pro runner most likely works just as hard, or has more athletic talent than someone hitting .125 in the big leagues.
Oh, a decently high-achieving pro runner works WAY harder than most baseball players, and definitely WAY harder than anyone hitting .125
Kenneth Copeland, verified millionaire wrote:
Are people really saying $150k AFTER taxes/job related expenses isn't very much? Mental. Assuming how owned a $500k house (with a mortgage + property tax roughly 2k-2.3k/month), he still netting around 75k in pure disposal income!! AND CONSIDER HIS "JOB" WAS TO RUN AND BE AN ATHLETE. Anyone who would complain with this life and salary is insane! He was doing VERY well in 2015.
He did well in 2015. Here's the thing though. These are typically the start of the best earning years for your typical employee. You are building your career capital which will last you the rest of your working life. Your income will continue to increase or at least stable. With a runner, you are sacrificing building any other career skills. You're running career, if you are lucky, is 5 to 10 years. Most of it you are making far less than Nick in 2015. Your peak earning years might just be a few years.
Now you are a retired runner and you are making nothing from that career. You have no skills you would typically build in your 20's. If you were smart you saved some during your running years. Maybe you saved a few 100k. That's not enough to FIRE.
Maybe you can coach. Or maybe you can start a business like Nick (who knows how successful it is). Many will end up managing a StarBucks (not that there's anything wrong with that), or worse. Some will find some way to be financially successfully. Many will not.
Being a pro runner is not the road to wealth (if that's your thing). Even if you do as well as Nick for a few years.
I am rich but I would trade it to be an Olympian.
Coke not Pepsi wrote:
LappedMiler wrote:
Yeah...that's "Symmonds", not "Symonds"...I know.
I have more respect for Richard Simmons than Nick Symmonds.
Ugh, that says all I need to know about you.
Ridgemonter wrote:
Kenneth Copeland, verified millionaire wrote:
Are people really saying $150k AFTER taxes/job related expenses isn't very much? Mental. Assuming how owned a $500k house (with a mortgage + property tax roughly 2k-2.3k/month), he still netting around 75k in pure disposal income!! AND CONSIDER HIS "JOB" WAS TO RUN AND BE AN ATHLETE. Anyone who would complain with this life and salary is insane! He was doing VERY well in 2015.
He did well in 2015. Here's the thing though. These are typically the start of the best earning years for your typical employee. You are building your career capital which will last you the rest of your working life. Your income will continue to increase or at least stable. With a runner, you are sacrificing building any other career skills. You're running career, if you are lucky, is 5 to 10 years. Most of it you are making far less than Nick in 2015. Your peak earning years might just be a few years.
Now you are a retired runner and you are making nothing from that career. You have no skills you would typically build in your 20's. If you were smart you saved some during your running years. Maybe you saved a few 100k. That's not enough to FIRE.
Maybe you can coach. Or maybe you can start a business like Nick (who knows how successful it is). Many will end up managing a StarBucks (not that there's anything wrong with that), or worse. Some will find some way to be financially successfully. Many will not.
Being a pro runner is not the road to wealth (if that's your thing). Even if you do as well as Nick for a few years.
Well said, including the point about wealth being valuable to some and not others. Opportunity cost matters. So do memories.
dodge ball wrote:
Mikeh33 wrote:
Runner might work harder, but in no way is he more athletic than a major league baseball player. Baseball is a skill sport, and takes a level of hand eye coordination that just isn’t required and running.
You’re kidding right? Way harder to be a world class runner.
Not kidding at all. Far more difficult to play baseball at the major-league level.
dodge ball wrote:
Mikeh33 wrote:
Runner might work harder, but in no way is he more athletic than a major league baseball player. Baseball is a skill sport, and takes a level of hand eye coordination that just isn’t required and running.
You’re kidding right? Way harder to be a world class runner.
Lol
Taxes took most of it, not the coaches and agents.
Coke not Pepsi wrote:
I have more respect for Richard Simmons than Nick Symmonds.
Please tell us, Swami, how you feel about Kim Kardashian, and Joe Biden, and whether or not Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame, because, like the boot-licking "followers" running behind Forrest Gump and taking his words as the gospel, inquiring minds will hang onto your every word. You da poisen. Dat's different than "poison". Well, kind of. Well, maybe not.
I, personally, have more respect for Richard Simmons than Coke not Pepsi.
You're really understating it. 150k net is more like when someone says "I make 250k". Thats a very good year.
Also this was when he was with brooks and his contract may have been structured differently. I bet he netted close to 150k in his prime years with Nike.