Julian Wanders now coached by Renato Canova

Add Julien’s 10,000 m best time of 2717 achieved just one week after his 743 3000 m. July 9/July 17 -2019.

When you think about it, that gluttonous month of July 2019 shows that Julien can improve significantly on his best times with better planning and a less rushed schedule. 1500/3000/5000/10,000 pbs all within the same month (July 2019), really boggles the mind and shows that better times can be achieved with diversified training for the shorter events and the longer ones. It seems that Julien has one training method with less specificity for the track events. Hence his supremacy over 21km where all his fast progressive runs with his training mates in Kenya pay the most dividends for that specific distance.

Runner10287 wrote:

Wanders will medal in Tokyo. Book it.

Troll post of the day...

Lmfao wrote:

Runner10287 wrote:

Wanders will medal in Tokyo. Book it.

Troll post of the day...

Not necessarily a troll post. One thing is certain, Julien is one of the most determined and single minded focused runners on planet earth and he has been that way since his mid teens growing up in Switzerland where his parents were renowned musicians and there was no athletics culture in the family. Medal or no medal, Julien deserves all the success he can get.

The intriguing question is will Renato Canova be able to take Julien up to the next level?

There’s not much higher to climb but there are a few things which need to be tweaked with both his training and racing strategies. The good news is that Julien still has a good margin of progression one feels.

Unlike elite Kenyan runners, Julien never takes days off or weeks off and just plows on, and this may be something which might change under the direction of Renato Canova.

If Julien is now injured Renato can't blame it on potato picking or other hard work on the farm

Julien doesn't have. lol!

Would be very surprised if the good Canova can't develop JW into one of the very best in the world on half/marathon.The King of the Kenya highlands still knows his stuff for some more years.

But then the Prince stands by and is ready to take over the royal crown. :)

The Wizard JS wrote:

Would be very surprised if the good Canova can't develop JW into one of the very best in the world on half/marathon.The King of the Kenya highlands still knows his stuff for some more years.

But then the Prince stands by and is ready to take over the royal crown. :)

lol, your so funny :)

The Wizard JS wrote:

Would be very surprised if the good Canova can't develop JW into one of the very best in the world on half/marathon.The King of the Kenya highlands still knows his stuff for some more years.

But then the Prince stands by and is ready to take over the royal crown. :)

Norwegian cross country skiers have shown their ability to stay at the top in Nordic skiing for decades and so a transfer to running would seem to be a logical possibility for someone coming from Norway. Norway, a tiny country with just 5 million people, with a high per capita rate of world-class sportsmen and women.

The interesting thing also is that Norway is a very rich country and no one has to do athletics to make a living because they have so many other choices and no one is poor in Norway but they still produce world-class Nordic skiers and other sportsmen and women. Sweden is similar with possibly more heterogeneity as they seem to produce a lot of other top class sports people in tennis, football, ice hockey and swimming among other sports. Double the population of Norway though.

The thing is that if you are a top cross country skier you earn a couple of million dollars per year compared to much less if a top middle/ longdistance runner( except Jakob Ingebrigtsen I guess? ;) ) , and it`s "easier" to reach the top in skiing with less worldwide competition......also easier to get sponsors in XC skiing....... as a little surprising I see, I will only in the end inform that there are also poor in Sweden and Norway. Here, too, the gap between rich and poor is widening! Sadly......And Norway as a nation has become poorer after reduced oil revenues.

The Clown JS wrote:

But then the Prince stands by and is ready to take over the royal crown. :)

You will take over as the royal clown.

Ghost1 wrote:

Runner10287 wrote:

Wanders will medal in Tokyo. Book it.

Possible but there are other many other possible medalists and it is very difficult to predict Olympic medalist especially in the marathon if that is the race he is selected for. He can run sub 27 minutes for 10,000 m but I doubt that he would metal in that event because he cannot run the last lap in 52 to 54 seconds. In fact, if the 10,000 m is a tactical race which it often is, the last mile would be run close to four minutes and that would probably be above Julien’s capacity to stay with the pace.

Rupp medalled in Rio and Julien is as good or equal to Galen on the roads ( not on the track) so it is possible. Let us see how far Canova can take him.

I imagine Cheptegei, Rhonex, and Kiplimo are locks for 10000 medals so if it is the marathon will he debut in the first few months of the new year? JW tests himself this Sunday in Valencia over the half v two of those track favourites.

I would t say “lock” with Kejelcha , Barega, and Mo Ahmed in the wings.

Quadracarn wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

I imagine Cheptegei, Rhonex, and Kiplimo are locks for 10000 medals so if it is the marathon will he debut in the first few months of the new year? JW tests himself this Sunday in Valencia over the half v two of those track favourites.

I would t say “lock” with Kejelcha , Barega, and Mo Ahmed in the wings.

Mo Ahmed - he’s a great runner but that super long stride of his in someways is a disadvantage because he cannot get to that ultimate cadence in the finishing straight.

Mo Ahmed (1991)

600 Metres 1:22.95 Jesuit High School Track, Portland, OR (USA) 21 JUL 2020 847

1500 Metres 3:34.89 Jesuit High School Track, Portland, OR (USA) 21 JUL 2020 1176

One Mile 3:56.60 Alexander Stadium, Birmingham (GBR) 20 AUG 2017 1117

2000 Metres 5:00.72 Jesuit High School Track, Portland, OR (USA) 07 AUG 2020 1126

3000 Metres 7:40.49 Sports Park Mladost, Zagreb (CRO) 29 AUG 2017 NR 1173

Two Miles 8:15.76 Cobb Track and Angell Field, Palo Alto, CA (USA) 30 JUN 2019 NBP 1176

5000 Metres 12:47.20 Jesuit High School Track, Portland, OR (USA) 10 JUL 2020 AR, NR 1257

10,000 Metres 26:59.35 Khalifa International Stadium, Doha (QAT) 06 OCT 2019 NR 1227

4x1500 Metres Relay 14:44.69 Jesuit High School Track, Portland, OR (USA) 31 JUL 2020 1228

Indoor

3000 Metres 7:40.11 New York, NY (USA) 20 FEB 2016 NR 1201

Two Miles 8:13.16 New York, NY (USA) 11 FEB 2017 1234

5000 Metres 13:04.60 Boston, MA (USA) 26 FEB 2017 NR 1245

Comparing JW with MA, it is evident that MA has quite a bit more native speed compared to JW. Also if and when MA takes to the roads in the half marathon or even longer he could be a monster but only time will tell. Some will tell that because of his huge long stride MA would not be suited to the marathon but others with similar styles have done well including Mo Farah

Good move to switch coaches as he seemed to stagnate a bit this year and have a hard time peaking at the right time. Nevertheless, good job by the previous coach Marco Jaeger to get him to the elite level. I think the main problem, as stated before, was that Julien would always hit it too hard. Having a coach who is closer by and can overlook the training and as importantly the recovery will only benefit him.

As far as future PRs and medals go: Unfortunately I do not see a chance in Julien breaking 13 and definitely no medal in Tokyo. Let's get a European medal first (the one he inherited in XC left aside).

This will be interesting to follow..

I have noticed the changes in the easy runs lately being often spot on 4.00 pace. Earlier easy runs were faster and often progressive.

Also I have noticed hill sprints.

I anticipate great results ?