Jakob and Filip to run 800m on tuesday june 30th

LetsRun is a doping apologist site wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Jakob might run a 1:45 but he will never run sub 1:45, the first step to matching 800+ GOAT Augustine Choge.

sub 1:45: Choge check Aouita check Jakob nope

sub 3:30: Choge check Aouita check Jakob nope

sub 7:30: Choge check Aouita check Jakob nope

sub 12:55 Choge check Aouita nope jakob nope

sub 60: Choge check Aouita nope jakob nope

I inadvertently stopped capitalizing jakob's name but I'm advertently leaving it that way. Kid's got a long way to go to live up to the great expectations.

Pretty sure he will if he devotes an entire year of his career to it and runs it 7 times in a season as fake a$$ Aouita did in 88.

Hi Coevett ?

Lol we all know that's coevett. What's the problem if Aouita ran 7 800m in a season ? He does whatever he wants, you can't take frome him that he's an Olympic bronze medalist on the 800m, and Jakob will never get a global medal on the 800, not matter how hard he tries.

I love Jakob, he's my favorite runner, but please, stop literally suckg his d*ck, it's OBVIOUS he's a slow twitch 1500m runner, even if he never runs an 800m in his life, we can still all see he's a slow twitch runner because, physically you CAN'T have sub 12:50 ability (he has it) and 1:43:XX 800 and only run 3:30 flat on the 1500m. He's already a faster 5k runner than Aouita and we all know that, so, even if his 5k never improves anymore, the day he'll run 1:43/1:42 he's ready for the 1500m world record. Obviously it won't happen so he has to get his 5k time near the world record if he wants to have a shot at the 1500m world record.

Do you understand that you can't be great on the 800m (1:43) and on the 5000m (12:50) and only run 3:30 on the 5k ?

It's not an pejorative to say he is a slow twitch runner, (even the world record holder Hicham El Guerrouj is slow twitch), he would get smoked by Lewandowski on a 800m BUT he would absolutely crush him on a 5k, that's it. Jakob is a human, not a robot he can't be great everywhere, you have to accept that he's not like Coe, and that's fine because Jakob will probably run faster than him on the 1500m thanks to his phenomenal endurance.

I think one also has to consider that the 800m are very difficult to run well, especially for people who rarely ever run 800m races. It's rather unlikely that Jakob will get his best possible 800m result after 3 years hardly running the distance.

Lion belt wrote:

Han Solo wrote:

Where exactly in the world right now is there a 1500m race that's going to go under 3:30 or a 5k under 13:00? That's what it would take for him to show improvement. So why waste time on running some time trial that's not going to go that fast. May as well run some events you might not otherwise do.

Idiot.

That s the point.

He is trying to fake improvements per running events he never run so he can claim PERSONAL RECORD and get talked.

What's it like being this miserable of a human being?

Webb was a 1:43-3:30 guy who could have run 12:50.

We all saw what happens when he goes Lactic in Doha's 5K. I don't have a solid guess as to what the time will be, but whatever it is, I can guarantee it'll be his most painful race.

3 things :

Webb never ran his potential, he probably could have gone 3:29/3:28, and even more in a race like Monaco

Webb has a personal best of 13:10 and I don't see him getting anywhere near or sub 12:50 like Jakob is capable and will probably do

Webb is a 3:46 miler, forget the conversion, it places him 8th fastest miler of all time.

Do not expect Jakob run faster than 1:46.5. Filip should win by at least half a second over Jakob.

Salvatore Stitchmo wrote:

Let's stop the f%$king around.

1.46.37 for Jakob

prediction locked in

1:45.78 locked in.

1:47:04 (Jakob)

We don't use his old 800m time to evaluate his speed/muscle fiber ratio. But we saw dozens of races of him and it's always the same vs other good runners with more speed - he gets smoked/destroyed on the last 100-200m. Especially in slower races, like the European Indoor Championship 2019 1500m. But even in Doha, which was a fast race.

Runners can have a strong 800m time without being very fast-twitch, just by being extremely strong aerobically. Klosterhalfen is a similar runner to Ingebrigtsen - lots of endurance, stamina, but no strong sprint finish. Yet she ran a 1:59 - which is probably equivalent to 1:44 or so.

So even if Jakob runs a 1:43 or 1:44, as you or some other people think (in my opinion it's not even guaranteed), as long as he keeps getting outsprinted at the end of competitive races we won't consider him a "speedy 1500 guy" or "FT runner in 1500".

And the argument "but he closed a race in a 53!" also gets old. Lagat closed a race in a 52-second lap as 41-year old. He never broke 1:48 in the 800. So Lagat is now a speed monster? Closing a long-distance race quick is more of a sign of supreme aerobic ability, as in "there is a lot left in the tank at the end" rather than raw, sprint speed.

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You state that Jakob gets smoked in the last 100-200m in dozens of races!

Will you please

A. Watch the following races

a. 1500m Palo Alto 2018

b. Bowerman mile 2018

c. 1500m Monaco 2018

d. 1500m Stockholm 2019

e.1500m Lausanne 2019

f. 1500m Monaco 2019

g. 1500m Brussel 2019

And tell this forum if you want to moderate your statement?

B. Will you also tell this forum how many times the excellent finishers Centro and Engels have beaten the slow 17-19 years old Jakob?

Filip will win the race and Jakob will get close to breaking 1:46. I don't understand you guys. The kid is like 19 years old and probably not racing in his best event yet. One of the greatest junior talents ever and all of you can't get past the fact that he's not already the best in the world. Not saying he will be the best ever but his 5k pb as a junior is faster than Kenenisa was able to run as a junior and he's faster at the 1500. The potential for greatness is here, just have patience and see if it can be realized.

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

his 5k pb as a junior is faster than Kenenisa was able to run as a junior and he's faster at the 1500. The potential for greatness is here, just have patience and see if it can be realized.

Tariku was faster than his brother as a jr, but didn't amount to much, relatively speaking.

Han Solo wrote:

Alfred de Musset wrote:

They keep running fringe events to avoid showing that Jakob has not really progressed.

5k road

2000m

800m

Jakob doing everything to avoid running a 1500m or a 5000m.

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Where exactly in the world right now is there a 1500m race that's going to go under 3:30 or a 5k under 13:00? That's what it would take for him to show improvement. So why waste time on running some time trial that's not going to go that fast. May as well run some events you might not otherwise do.

Idiot.

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That s the point.

He is trying to fake improvements per running events he never run so he can claim PERSONAL RECORD and get talked.

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Boysen Memorial is a recurrent event where the only longer runs are 800m and 5000m (at least this year).

Henrik I and Moen have apparently chosen the 5000m and then Jakob almost has to choose the 800m.

Jakob is at least one level over Henrik and Moen in the 5000m so he would have no use of running with them (unless they acted as pacemakers).

So you guys are twisting the whole situation in your continous search for negative comments towards Jakob.

Does it matter, since they are doping?

Salvatore Stitchmo wrote:

Let's stop the f%$king around.

1.46.37 for Jakob

prediction locked in

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1:45.78 locked in.

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Filip ran just over 1:48 for the first 800m in his 1000m at Impossible Games.

Shouldn´t he be able to run 2 seconds faster now if he gets the same good pacemaking as last time?

Contrary to many here I think that Jakob is the faster of the brothers (also in the 800m) so I hope Jakob can go under 1:46.

If so, I think it is a good performance considering it is early in the season and considering that his training is more suitable for long distance than middle distance.

Totally correct but to rag on Tariku while he was still a junior would not have been fair. He still earned an Olympic bronze behind the dubious Mo and Rupp and is like 8th all time at the 3000. The latter stage of his career is very forgettable and had he competed to that same level on the roads he would be remembered fondly, even better than Tadese I would say since his marathon career has also been a bust.

Sorry meant that last post for User Tariku.