Maybe because that reflects the fact that this type of run is not real race conditions. I am just pointing that out and pointing out how absurd it is to try to compare this to times in a real race for multiple reasons.
Look her best real time is 9:58.58 run on February 29th of this year. Hopefully she can better that, but that is where it stands.
The article says that it helps by about a second per lap on a calm day, More on a windy day
If you combine that with the fact that Tuohy had to run around and lap the field several times
And that in addition she had a Runner behind her which even increases the drag effects creating a wind tunnel
It's easily a 12-second advantage. Not trying to take away from a great effort it's awesome that she's working hard but obviously it's a big advantage over a normal high school race. Granted if you're comparing it to a pro race where you can run in the pack and get help that way it's not as big a difference from some of Mary Kane's Pro races potentially
Fair points. Speaking from personal experience, I've never come close to my race times in time trials -- but, granted, I've never had personal pacers in a time trial, either.
I think we're all eagerly awaiting the day when racing returns and our curiosity can be satisfied!
Very true. That is why so many of these record are set in pro races. But even in a pro race scenario you don't have 2-3 runners whose sole job is to pace you and allow you to draft, who slow down to make sure you are in drafting range. You don't have a runner who comes back on the track with a few laps to go to run right behind you to push you and increase the draft effect. Not to mention she was using bigger male runners to do this. That is what makes it seem so contrived assuming everything else was valid. It was pulling out all the stops to get her to run a significantly faster time than she can in a real race, which is 9:58. And the fact is that I don't see any other runners posting work outs designed like this.
But if we are going to overlook all that and grasp to credit unofficial, specially designed "time trials" then we we would need to see how all the top two mile runners would fare under the same conditions and set up. Starliper. Hart. Tuohy, etc. All the runners whose real race results are better than BBs.
If BBs returns and runs substantially better in actual races, that will be one thing. But if as I expect she reverts to high 9:50s again, that tells the tale.
So Sprout would beat Young by more than 20 seconds if Young leads the race this time.
astro wrote:
But even in a pro race scenario you don't have 2-3 runners whose sole job is to pace you and allow you to draft, who slow down to make sure you are in drafting range.
This is so dumb I'm having trouble mocking it properly.
If only there were a term for someone paid to do exactly what you describe.... a pooka? No that can't be it....
oh come now. It looks like she got tripped from behind and it looks like it was Katelynne Hart. Just happened in a pack of runners shifting position.
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10019566&page=1
1:55
meant to link the race
https://nxn.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=13&do=videos&video_id=286981
A rabbit or pacer sets a general pace, and drops off. Even in the most blatant use of a rabbit, such as the Bannister 4 minute mile, the pacer does not escort Bannister to the line.
Here this was more along the lines of personal running valets. LOLL.
Throw her in a race with professionals and I have no doubt that she can run 9:29.
Hah! If it was Hart she did the same thing to Katelyn at NBNI. But Katelyn stayed upright. And won.
But seriously BB was all in and was overreaching at Nationals, which her NXN South regional time suggests.
astro wrote:
Maybe because that reflects the fact that this type of run is not real race conditions. I am just pointing that out and pointing out how absurd it is to try to compare this to times in a real race for multiple reasons.
Look her best real time is 9:58.58 run on February 29th of this year. Hopefully she can better that, but that is where it stands.
Moran alert! Moran alert! Everyone stop replying to this guy.
She has a strava and she did a crazy intense track workout on May 10th, 9 days prior to her time trial.
The workrout was 8x1000 @ goal 5k pace w 200 jog rest. Her splits were 3:05, 3:05, 3:04, 3:03, 3:04, 3:05, 3:04, 3:00.
That's a college/pro level workout. incredibly impressive especially considering the 200m jog rest which is short.
She would smash Tuohy in a 5k right now.
also to follow up on that she did a 15 mile long run @ 5:52 pace 2 days prior to that workout. Holy cow
astro, she doesn't need to run faster. She already has a full scholarship D1, rest is gravy.
Uh huh. I'm impressed by actual results, not work outs. Do it for real. The rest is just excuses.
astro wrote:
She fell because she was already on the limit trying to keep up with the other runners.
Give it a break, dude...
OK. Hopefully her actual results measure up.
Ok. Meanwhile on February 29th, about the time most states are running their state championships, she ran 9:58. And she has never done better than 23rd at Nationals. I generally like to wait for real results before I jump on a hype train. But hype away.
astro wrote:
Ok. Meanwhile on February 29th, about the time most states are running their state championships, she ran 9:58. And she has never done better than 23rd at Nationals. I generally like to wait for real results before I jump on a hype train. But hype away.
Not hyping away...Just appreciating what she did which is pretty damn awesome.