The lunatic is here again.
The lunatic is here again.
I like this British guy's choice in the finest hotels and resorts. Not to shabby!
yournottoobright wrote:
Come on guys wrote:It's not what we need. This whole thing is soooo simple: We don't need Laz there right now. We don't need Let'sRunners there. We don't need ultra runners there. We need him to upload his TomTom data from the start of the run. That's ALL we need.
No dumb dumb, that's not all we need.
What we need more of is Laz sending reports that RY looks tired. Well, no $hit, sherlock. He's been running double marathons on multiple days in hot weather.
Also, RY and crew won't call off the record attempt because they still think it's legit. Even though they know he rode for some of the miles, in their minds, they're thinking, Aaah. Close enough. The route from CA to NYC is too long anyway. You're only supposed to run 2766 miles anyway so if our best route is a little longer, it doesn't matter if we cut diagonally offroad to save some miles. Or save some more miles if RY rides in the RV. We can still say he ran cross country because he ran more than 2766 miles. Enough to count. We won't tell anyone he rode in the RV because they'll misunderstand as if it's cheating.
They won't ever say that publicly, but I imagine that's what they're thinking.
Notice this quote from RY's website:
"Per the Guinness World Record guidelines, “It is up to the runner to choose the shortest/most suitable route between the two cities…†so long as “…the route distance [is] equal to or greater than New York City to Los Angeles.†Any two coastal cities may be chosen as long as their distance apart exceeds the 2,766 miles from Los Angeles to New York."
Exactly. He brought it up and joanna did.
TroLLminator wrote:
On that note, we should be really glad Laz is there. If the Barkley routes he created are any indication of navigation skills, Rob will never leave the state of Indiana.
Actually, Laz seems to have no difficulty navigating Frozenhead. It's the rest of us who tend to get ourselves turned around.
spotterofsimpleton wrote:
Simpleton wrote:I really wouldn't trust what this Laz says. It sounds like he has no clue himself.
This is your chance to be a superhero - you should plot your escape from your mom's basement and get out there and do it right.
If there is one thing we can all agree on here at LRC is that we can trust "Simpleton"
Not tonight. Ma's making meatloaf. Perhaps tomorrow I can get the keys.
Want me to get some more Depends for you while I'm out?
The appalachians aren't mountains, just some rolling hills with an important sounding name.
113 wrote:
I really hope he keeps running to NYC. Setting records doesn't have to be his thing. The guy clearly gets a high out of running and meeting people. There's nothing wrong with that. Just stop pretending to be something you're not.
You can hope, but NYC is really really far away!
I mean, anyone can drive that far, but actually running it? That's hard to do.
Laz and Co will be busy until September.
Can someone enlighten me on RY's experience running multiple 50 mile days in a row, before this record attempt. It seems to me his experience has only been daily 26-30 mile runs.
The record is definitely in serious jeopardy but glad to hear he's going to still give it a go. I would think he's completely knackered at this point.
Not sure if I've seen any discussion of Frank Giannino's record on this thread but found the following regarding his mileage strategy which I found interesting and appears to run counter to what we've seen of RY's attempt:
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Stan Cottrell of Georgia raised the performance bar, completing a well-financed run from New York City to San Francisco in 48 days 1 hour 48 minutes, an average of 64 miles per day. Frank's original plan for Run #2 was to average 60 miles per day. Cottrell's effort raised the bar. Not only did he have to better that average, but he had to do it convincingly. Frank did not have the gifts of a fast ultra-marathoner, but he did have two things going for him - he had done this before, and he had the perfect support team to do it with - his family! If he was going to average more than 64 miles per day, everything was going to have to come together perfectly.
Frank's plan was to reach Fort Collins, CO at an average of 60 miles per day. After that, he planned to average 70 miles per day. The plan was to run 2.5 miles at 10-12 minutes per mile, walk a little, run 2.5 again and repeat the process through twenty miles; then break for breakfast for one hour; run/walk another twenty miles; break one hour for lunch; then run as many miles as possible into the nighttime hours. The first four days across California were rough. Frank's pace was slow. California roads were very busy. The family was not making enough sacrifices in an effort to reach seventy miles per day. Instead of foregoing showers and parking near the finish marker, the family would drive out of its way for a KOA, in order to be comfortable after the fifty or so miles they had covered. This pace was far below the 60 miles and ultimately 70 miles that would be needed daily.
With a renewed resolve, all family members dug in and made sacrifices. In some cases, the sacrifices were painful. Frank Sr. came down with dysentery in Nevada. John's bike was run over. Bruce survived stomach problems. Frank lost three toenails. Brindle, more than once, managed to collect burrs in her fur while seeking relief during roadside pit-stops. The stories, as on Run #1, are legendary.
Suffice it to say, things worked out in the end. The group tightened up the routine. They grabbed showers when available. Only Frank bathed at the end of the day in the motor home shower. Frank's mileage routine increased. After Fort Collins, the crew awoke at 3:00 AM; Frank ran 25 miles; broke for breakfast; twenty five more miles; lunch; then as many miles as possible by dark. They reached the 70-mile goal almost every day and finished in 46 days 8 hours 36 minutes. The Guinness Book of World Records still lists it as the fastest crossing of the United States on foot.
Ulister wrote:
LRC to the Rescue. wrote:Laz is in the perfect spot. If Rob cracks , Laz made it real and brought the farce to an end. If Rob holds up and makes it , Laz rescued his run. Aren't other people are paying him to do this?
People should quit calling Laz dumb just because he is a late adapter to tech.
I know it's hard for someone who are still wet behind the ears to imagine a quality existence without gadgets, but It can happen.
I think people are calling Laz dumb because he is a late adapter to the English language.
I think people are taking the plss out of Laz because it's LRC and there are just some people only post that way - they take the plss out of everyone. It's not something to even think about. By LRC standards, for the most part Laz has been getting a lot of positive comments and thankfulness that he's there. Some people clearly saw he was watching Rob break down and he didn't need to do much else but watch that happen. On the other end of the spectrum Laz has gotten a lot of fan posts too.
I am glad Laz went out there to have someone actually watch this guy and I appreciate that he took the time out of his life to do that. I don't believe Rob will ever provide his data and it's just a waste of time asking for it. Might as well ask Mike Rossi for his data and photos, see where that gets you. For me, I just wanted someone to actually witness if this guy can run 70 mile days without any discomfort as he said he can do. Clearly he can't. His true believers will still believe in him, but the truth is now obvious to anyone without a vested interest.
I feel a really bad calf cramp coming on soon
Hello Runners,
One last thing. If any one of you tries to wake any one of our guests during their stay, I will release upon you a legal shjtstorm the likes of which you have never imagined existed.
Your's truly
Curtis,
Motel 6 Terre Haute
"we may or may not leave the light on for running idiots. no guarantees"
Markus wrote:
ray k updates:
RY stopped at noon and is going to take a break until abt 6pm. he will
resume running later on. ray will be out there with him
His RV is parked north of the Motel 6 in Terre Haute. They drove back there.
In Roberts good days he ran swiftly until the late afternoon.
I wonder what changed?
you really are obsessed with him
on a serious note wrote:
Anyone know what medical support Rob has out there with him?
Looking at his pic with the masseuse, he looks incredibly sunburned and could now be at serious risk of sun stroke. I'm not actually sure medics would advise him to keep going at this point as he could be serously putting his health at risk now.
I think there is a strong chance he could now be on for a DNF and a spell in hospital if he keeps this up.
Note to SKINS:
Giving a guy black clothing to run during the day is just as stupid as giving a guy black clothing to run during the night.
If you go to his website and click Team Skins GB running and then select Rob's year plan you can see that there were four aims for this:
1) Break the world record
2) 2 time USA crosser
3) Fastest European Crossing
4) Fastest British Crossing
If he fails to break the 'world record' he won't need to submit his GPS data to Guinness for verification, so he might just claim to have achieved points 2), 3) and 4). Anyone know what the times for 3) and 4) are? I remember reading about one of Britain's great runners doing it in the late 60s (?) but have a mind blank and can't think of his name
Tom Crockford wrote:
Markus wrote:ray k updates:
RY stopped at noon and is going to take a break until abt 6pm. he will
resume running later on. ray will be out there with him
His RV is parked north of the Motel 6 in Terre Haute. They drove back there.
In Roberts good days he ran swiftly until the late afternoon.
I wonder what changed?
you really are obsessed with him
Obsession - a new cologne for ultra-turtles.
Racergirl wrote:
Could someone please indulge a Brit who has never been to the US and isn't going to in the foreseeable future: I can see from my new friend Google Maps just what lies between his current location and NC, including the Appalachians, but I'm genuinely interested to know:
a What weather is he likely to face over the next couple of weeks, assuming he continues?
b Are the routes across the Appalachians switchbacks with sustained but not awful inclines, or straight up and over?
c From what I've gathered your Interstates are like our motorways and have a no pedestrians rule (on a state by state basis?) - do they have a minimum speed limit for vehicles?
d Where do these attempts usually end in NY? What alternatives does he have to Times Square? I laughed when someone said they wouldn't be able to roll into NYC at 3mph - I thought the traffic was usually gridlocked anyway?!
a) It's going to be hot, humid, and stormy. He will be lucky to have a day that is less that 80 degrees F. 85-90 degree highs will be the norms.
b) Here is a description of a segment of his route that is prior to the Appalachians but still hilly. The days after this will be much more difficult:
http://www.route40.net/page.asp?n=1483c) He is not supposed to ever be walking or running on an interstate in any of the remaining states. They've already violated this law but their remaining planned route doesn't show any interstates.
d) Getting into Times Square will require him to take the GW bridge, which will be a few miles out of the way. I don't know how the RV is going to successfully accompany him in that area (including suburban New Jersey). People are not going to take kindly to an RV going 4mph in one of their traffic lanes. And if there is gridlock then they'll never be able to stick together. If they're smart they'll just park the RV in New Jersey and then run/bike in with him over the bridge and down the Hudson River path.
Ghhrexf wrote:
Can someone enlighten me on RY's experience running multiple 50 mile days in a row, before this record attempt. It seems to me his experience has only been daily 26-30 mile runs.
He's run 147 miles in 48 hours on a TM. (Dean did that in 24 hrs, for comparison.) He claims to have run 373 mile no sleep non-stop and CoachKev and ARealPersson were supposedly there for the last 80 or so miles of that. And he probably did multiple 26-mile days in a row, but who really knows how many and how well. So we're all not sure how he will hold up for 2 weeks attempt 50-60 miles a day. The race across usa was basically 26 miles a day for 6 days in a row, then a rest day. Repeat. And there are some questions about his performance there because there are reports that each morning he would sprint off like a bat out of hell at sub-6 pace and get to the first two aid stations (6.6 and 13.1 miles) before they were staffed, and then jog/walk into the finish with a smile on his face. He finished the last stage in Washington DC before they had the finish line set up.