Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Out of 33 members of congress who own farming properties, only two have out their hands out for money from the Trump Farm Bailout decree that attempts to fix his tariff disaster. Most notably is Chuck Grassley. Many members of congress have stated they would not take the bailout money.

Grassley defended his plan to seek bailout money and said he has been a consistent advocate for farmers. Grassley said in April that he warned Trump at a White House meeting of the harm being felt by farmers and ranchers and said the administration “has a responsibility to help those Americans and mitigate the damage it caused," according to a news release.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I think if there is a vote in the judiciary, Flake will be a "no". For that reason, I don't think there will even be a vote.

All that really needs to happen is for Flake, Collins, or Murkowski to say they will vote "no". When one senator caves, at least one more will follow. Then it's over.

Wrong. Flake will vote "yes."

Every Republican will vote yes - I can’t imagine the threats coming from leadership for any of them that were on the fence. They probably straight up told them they would get ruined if they don’t vote Yes. They will all vote yes to continue sticking it to the libs.

Trollminator wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Wrong. Flake will vote "yes."

Every Republican will vote yes - I can’t imagine the threats coming from leadership for any of them that were on the fence. They probably straight up told them they would get ruined if they don’t vote Yes. They will all vote yes to continue sticking it to the libs.

Except that Flake is retiring. Alleged threats mean nothing to him.

The ABA wrote:

Racket wrote:

ABA didn't suggest it, just the president of the ABA I believe. I don't think the letter was intended to be representative of the entire association.

The entire association does not have a say on all ABA decisions.

This is akin to claiming Donald Trump, as president of the US, makes big decisions the citizens do not and so all citizens stand behind and support what he says.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Every Republican will vote yes - I can’t imagine the threats coming from leadership for any of them that were on the fence. They probably straight up told them they would get ruined if they don’t vote Yes. They will all vote yes to continue sticking it to the libs.

Except that Flake is retiring. Alleged threats mean nothing to him.

And how do you think he will continue making money after retirement? Certainly not by burning his bridges with a No vote on his way out.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Every Republican will vote yes - I can’t imagine the threats coming from leadership for any of them that were on the fence. They probably straight up told them they would get ruined if they don’t vote Yes. They will all vote yes to continue sticking it to the libs.

Except that Flake is retiring. Alleged threats mean nothing to him.

Not so fast there Rigged, looks like Flake is having a change of heart - the committee just voted to send the nomination to the floor under the condition that Flake will only support it after an FBI investigation

Trollminator wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Except that Flake is retiring. Alleged threats mean nothing to him.

Not so fast there Rigged, looks like Flake is having a change of heart - the committee just voted to send the nomination to the floor under the condition that Flake will only support it after an FBI investigation

McConnell will have to meet with Collins, Murkowski and Flake. If two out of the three say "yes" to Kavanaugh, then a floor vote will proceed. If two out of the three say "no", then McConnell & Schumer will have to negotiate on a FBI investigation with a limited scope limited to Ford's allegations. Trump will then order the FBI to proceed.

I expect no further corroboration of Ford's testimony.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Not so fast there Rigged, looks like Flake is having a change of heart - the committee just voted to send the nomination to the floor under the condition that Flake will only support it after an FBI investigation

McConnell will have to meet with Collins, Murkowski and Flake. If two out of the three say "yes" to Kavanaugh, then a floor vote will proceed. If two out of the three say "no", then McConnell & Schumer will have to negotiate on a FBI investigation with a limited scope limited to Ford's allegations. Trump will then order the FBI to proceed.

I expect no further corroboration of Ford's testimony.

I’m asking because I’m genuinely interested - did you think her testimony warrants further investigation and why/why not? You really think Trump would order the investigation? I think there’s no way he will accommodate that.

Clintonettes are not Americans!

Trollminator wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

McConnell will have to meet with Collins, Murkowski and Flake. If two out of the three say "yes" to Kavanaugh, then a floor vote will proceed. If two out of the three say "no", then McConnell & Schumer will have to negotiate on a FBI investigation with a limited scope limited to Ford's allegations. Trump will then order the FBI to proceed.

I expect no further corroboration of Ford's testimony.

I’m asking because I’m genuinely interested - did you think her testimony warrants further investigation and why/why not? You really think Trump would order the investigation? I think there’s no way he will accommodate that.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out. We've already got two Red State Democrats saying no to Kavanaugh, at least one of whom voted for Gorsuch (I don't know about the other one).

Also, let's not forget that we have two other NAMED women who have accused Kavanaugh of sexual assault, one of those being a rape...and then two anonymous ones with one of THOSE being a rape.

Along with Kavanaugh, Mark Judge is named in THREE of those accusations. If there is an FBI investigation, Mark Judge will surely be investigated.

Kavanaugh CLEARLY lied about the definition of "Devil's Triangle" (a quick Google search shows that), and perhaps "Boof" (search shows conflicting definitions, one of which includes the one Kavanaugh gave). So, he lied to the Senators' faces in that hearing. Is that appropriate in a job interview?

Michael Avenatti posted on his Twitter account today that he and his client Julie Swetnick will tell the American people her story this weekend. They claim to have corroborating witnesses...we will see how credible they all are.

Finally, this bit of time gives any more people the chance to come forward or for those anonymous accusers to step into the light. Extra time is not a friend of Brett Kavanaugh.

Trollminator wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

McConnell will have to meet with Collins, Murkowski and Flake. If two out of the three say "yes" to Kavanaugh, then a floor vote will proceed. If two out of the three say "no", then McConnell & Schumer will have to negotiate on a FBI investigation with a limited scope limited to Ford's allegations. Trump will then order the FBI to proceed.

I expect no further corroboration of Ford's testimony.

I’m asking because I’m genuinely interested - did you think her testimony warrants further investigation and why/why not? You really think Trump would order the investigation? I think there’s no way he will accommodate that.

It's all about getting Flake, Collins and Murkowski aboard with Kavanaugh.

Those three senators hold the keys to get over 50 votes. McConnell will comply with their wishes and Trump will absolutely order an investigation.

So, for those of you not following along at home...

Flake said he will vote NO on Kavanaugh unless there is an FBI investigation. So, in effect, he is a NO unless there's an FBI investigation that then brings forward no new damning evidence. He didn't say this, but if the FBI investigation shows that there IS validity to the claims against Kavanaugh, then he is likely to vote NO.

Lisa Murkowski has expressed this same opinion as Flake.

We have not yet as of mid Friday afternoon heard from Collins.

So, with NOs from Flake and Murkoski without an FBI investigation, assuming all Democrats vote YES, Mitch McConnell has a choice to make...force a vote and hope that either at least one Democrat votes YES or that Murkowski OR Flake go against what they said and vote YES.

IF McConnell and Trump really want Kavanaugh at this point, the only option is to have an FBI investigation. We will see.

I don't think this will happen, but it wouldn't shock me if either Trump says NO to an FBI investigation or McConnell forces the vote anyway because he'd rather just either get Kavanaugh seated now or lose and move to another candidate.

Gotta be hell in the Kavanaugh household. Credible accusations though, so that's how it goes.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

I’m asking because I’m genuinely interested - did you think her testimony warrants further investigation and why/why not? You really think Trump would order the investigation? I think there’s no way he will accommodate that.

It's all about getting Flake, Collins and Murkowski aboard with Kavanaugh.

Those three senators hold the keys to get over 50 votes. McConnell will comply with their wishes and Trump will absolutely order an investigation.

How do you personally feel about Ford after the hearing? Do you think an investigation is now warranted?

Trollminator wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

It's all about getting Flake, Collins and Murkowski aboard with Kavanaugh.

Those three senators hold the keys to get over 50 votes. McConnell will comply with their wishes and Trump will absolutely order an investigation.

How do you personally feel about Ford after the hearing? Do you think an investigation is now warranted?

I look at the facts not feelings. I didn't find Ford's testimony truthful about Kavanaugh. She has thrown out allegations about Kavanaugh without corroboration. The three GOP senators have forced McConnell's hand to go to Trump to get the FBI started. If this is the way to get Kavanaugh confirmed, then so be it.

The FBI will provide their report to the Judiciary Committee and I expect Flake. Murkowski and Collins to vote "yes" after the report shows nothing detrimental to Kavanaugh's nomination. In addition, I would not be surprised to see one or two Democrats from the red states facing reelection vote "yes" too.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

How do you personally feel about Ford after the hearing? Do you think an investigation is now warranted?

I look at the facts not feelings. I didn't find Ford's testimony truthful about Kavanaugh. She has thrown out allegations about Kavanaugh without corroboration. The three GOP senators have forced McConnell's hand to go to Trump to get the FBI started. If this is the way to get Kavanaugh confirmed, then so be it.

The FBI will provide their report to the Judiciary Committee and I expect Flake. Murkowski and Collins to vote "yes" after the report shows nothing detrimental to Kavanaugh's nomination. In addition, I would not be surprised to see one or two Democrats from the red states facing reelection vote "yes" too.

But this is not a court trial, the committee could only make a decision based on testimony, in other words “hoe they feel” about it. Also, part of the facts are supporting sworn statements from other individuals, that kind of evidence is certainly admissible in court. So if you were sitting on the committee, given her testimony, you did not her statements compelling enough to warrant additional investigation from the FBI? Remember, you are considering the accused for a seat in the nation’s highest court. That “I look at facts” stance is a safe play but the reality is they are not looking at all the facts are they? They didn’t hear from Judge, they didn’t get a professional’s evaluation of each side’s testimony, they didn’t follow up with people who might have been envolved to be able to either correoborate her story or debunk it. So wouldn’t you be concerned that you don’t have all the facts???

Two questions that we should all be asking are, "Why do ALL national level politicians suck?" and "Is there any way to improve this situation?"

PIO! wrote:

Two questions that we should all be asking are, "Why do ALL national level politicians suck?" and "Is there any way to improve this situation?"

This I agree with, best post in the last 1000 made. If BOTH sides felt this way instead of saying "but Hillary...but Hillary" there would be more civility in this thread. Hillary was awful and was NOT the most qualified Democratic candidate to run...total BS on that.

Flagpole and his sidekicks get no sympathy from me or many others on here....far too much obvious bias.

PIO! figured it out as did Alan. Kudos to them!

Agree 100% with this wrote:

PIO! wrote:

Two questions that we should all be asking are, "Why do ALL national level politicians suck?" and "Is there any way to improve this situation?"

This I agree with, best post in the last 1000 made. If BOTH sides felt this way instead of saying "but Hillary...but Hillary" there would be more civility in this thread. Hillary was awful and was NOT the most qualified Democratic candidate to run...total BS on that.

Flagpole and his sidekicks get no sympathy from me or many others on here....far too much obvious bias.

PIO! figured it out as did Alan. Kudos to them!

Nobody asked for your sympathy