Federal Appeals Court issues temporary stay on vaccine mandate.
Federal Appeals Court issues temporary stay on vaccine mandate.
fisky wrote:
Federal Appeals Court issues temporary stay on vaccine mandate.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-federal-court-stalls-bidens-covid-jab-mandate-for-businesses-with-100-or-more-employees/?utm_source=featured&utm_campaign=usa
A win for medical freedom in America.
Save America wrote:
fisky wrote:
Federal Appeals Court issues temporary stay on vaccine mandate.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-federal-court-stalls-bidens-covid-jab-mandate-for-businesses-with-100-or-more-employees/?utm_source=featured&utm_campaign=usaA win for medical freedom in America.
A win for everyone in Florida. If you keep pumping the vaccine in your blood then you are asking for trouble, but it’s your trouble. Unvaccinated is the natural, healthy alternative
^win for everyone not just Florida (typo)
750k dead Americans and we call unvaccinated healthier?
1984-levels of doublespeak.
Noyankee wrote:
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Unvaccinated is the natural, healthy alternative
Unless you die, or suffer for months, years or life.
George Ilie wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
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Unvaccinated is the natural, healthy alternative
Unless you die, or suffer for months, years or life.
A useful exercise is to calculate your personal odds of a catastrophic outcome if infected with Covid-19.
Here are mine:
If infected, the odds that Covid-19 will kill me: 2,500 to 1
If infected, the odds that Covid-19 will leave me with a long term serious medical problem: 2,000 to 1
Overcome your fear by using reason and logic.
You're Welcome,
Dan M.
DanM wrote:
If infected, the odds that Covid-19 will kill me: 2,500 to 1
Or something like, "In our small town of 50,000 people, we're going to select 20 people at random and shoot them in the head. You can leave your name on the list of potential people to shoot, or you can take your name off the list. Totally up to you, though."
Overcome your fear by using reason and logic.
As people have been begging and pleading you and everyone else to do for the better part of a year now.
colder and wiser wrote:
DanM wrote:
If infected, the odds that Covid-19 will kill me: 2,500 to 1
Or something like, "In our small town of 50,000 people, we're going to select 20 people at random and shoot them in the head. You can leave your name on the list of potential people to shoot, or you can take your name off the list. Totally up to you, though."
Overcome your fear by using reason and logic.
As people have been begging and pleading you and everyone else to do for the better part of a year now.
More lies from the vax mob mafia. Your "at random" scenario applies to what ? Not Covid-19 which affects clearly defined high risk groups.
Too bad Kyrie Irving is barred from playing. He'd show you what healthy unvaccinated people are like. The NBA owners would be embarrassed by Irving making his opponents look sick.
Harambe wrote:
Conservative Right-Winger wrote:
So? Private employers are driving the mandates regardless.
So? Most private employers weren't doing any mandates prior to the Biden mandates. I live in a large metro-area & there were very few business mandates with most of them restaurants & night clubs.
You're so apoplectic with people declining the vaccine you lose sight that Republican leadership strongly recommends vaccination but objects any government mandates as overreaching & unconstitutional. Republicans honor "informed consent" & an individual's right to decline vaccination for any reason of personal conscience, religious belief, or for medical reasons, including prior recovery from COVID.
You Liberals on the other hand don't believe in informed consent and want to remove a person's choice by implementing these ridiculous mandates. All you Liberals have managed to accomplish is further polarization of this country & created a legal & political war that's going to get far worse before it gets better.
You Liberals are pathetic with these mandates!
It's quite simple. Biden was going to leave mandate to employers (which is totally fine as employers can make -whatever- rules they want for employees in the USA). Then, antivaxxers started killing innocent Americans during the Delta wave by filling up ICUs.
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1.) Employers cannot make any rules they want. If an employer set a policy that all employees ingest dishwaher detergent because they believed it would "keep everyone safe" then they would be held liable for harming people's lives. And violating people's bodily autonomy. The question here is whether an employer can force a medical intervention. Most signs point to no.
2.) Antivaxxers started killing people? You sure about that? Which ones, specifically? Murder and manslaughter is illegal. How come zero unvaccinated people have participated in a trial?
If it's a "pandemic of the unvaccinated" as you claim, we would also see a "pandemic of the unvaccinated in jail" - the ones who are alive and kickin it.
DanM wrote:
A useful exercise is to calculate your personal odds of a catastrophic outcome if infected with Covid-19.
Here are mine:
If infected, the odds that Covid-19 will kill me: 2,500 to 1
If infected, the odds that Covid-19 will leave me with a long term serious medical problem: 2,000 to 1
Overcome your fear by using reason and logic.
You're Welcome,
Dan M.
This is similar to what I've done, but I've added more variables.
Odds that it will kill me: 2,500 to 1 reduced by 74% due to vitamin D or 9,600 to 1
Odds with the new antiviral" 9,600 to 1 reduced by 89%: 87,000 to 1
Now, to that, I factor in the odds of actually getting COVID
Odds of getting covid over the next 12 months: 1 in 50
Reduction of above due to very high vitamin D levels: 25% so now it's 1 in 66
So now the odds of dying from covid are 5,700,000 to 1.
Compare that to odds of major side effects of the vaccine surfacing after one year: Unknown
Considering all the concerns over the long-term effects of the vaccine, the fact that you can't un-vaccinate yourself once you do it, the fact that it was developed from start to Phase I testing in less than 90 days, and the fact that prior to a re-definition of "vaccine" in 2019, this mRNA jab wouldn't have even been eligible to be considered as a vaccine, the fact that Pfizer can't be sued for adverse effects, and the alarming suppression of free discussion of side effects on social media platforms... some of these are more concerning than others, but I think the prudent move is to wait and see.
fisky wrote:
DanM wrote:
A useful exercise is to calculate your personal odds of a catastrophic outcome if infected with Covid-19.
Here are mine:
If infected, the odds that Covid-19 will kill me: 2,500 to 1
If infected, the odds that Covid-19 will leave me with a long term serious medical problem: 2,000 to 1
Overcome your fear by using reason and logic.
You're Welcome,
Dan M.
This is similar to what I've done, but I've added more variables.
Odds that it will kill me: 2,500 to 1 reduced by 74% due to vitamin D or 9,600 to 1
Odds with the new antiviral" 9,600 to 1 reduced by 89%: 87,000 to 1
Now, to that, I factor in the odds of actually getting COVID
Odds of getting covid over the next 12 months: 1 in 50
Reduction of above due to very high vitamin D levels: 25% so now it's 1 in 66
So now the odds of dying from covid are 5,700,000 to 1.
Compare that to odds of major side effects of the vaccine surfacing after one year: Unknown
Considering all the concerns over the long-term effects of the vaccine, the fact that you can't un-vaccinate yourself once you do it, the fact that it was developed from start to Phase I testing in less than 90 days, and the fact that prior to a re-definition of "vaccine" in 2019, this mRNA jab wouldn't have even been eligible to be considered as a vaccine, the fact that Pfizer can't be sued for adverse effects, and the alarming suppression of free discussion of side effects on social media platforms... some of these are more concerning than others, but I think the prudent move is to wait and see.
+1
DanM wrote:
If infected, the odds that Covid-19 will leave me with a long term serious medical problem: 2,000 to 1
So I heard that SARS-CoV-2 takes the math more in serious than the genetic predisposition.
Lucky you
Antivaxxers and devastation go together like steak and wine
fisky wrote:
So now the odds of dying from covid are 5,700,000 to 1.
Speaking of probabilities, you know that one of the friends of a friend of one of your Facebook friends is friend with Donald Trump?
What I mean is that epidemics is not just math, but includes demographics, social, professional connections too.
We, the people, depend on each other.
Some random guy will show up one day at your door to fix the kitchen sink and that's it.
We can't hide for ever. Also, we may not be healthy for ever and once weak, you never know what brings you down.
George Ilie wrote:
DanM wrote:
If infected, the odds that Covid-19 will leave me with a long term serious medical problem: 2,000 to 1
So I heard that SARS-CoV-2 takes the math more in serious than the genetic predisposition.
Lucky you
Huh ? Care to clarify that ?
Here's more math:
Massachusetts State of Emergency declared: 2020-03-10 Days since: 607
First mRNA shots administered in the US: 2020-12-14 Days since: 328
Not Anthony Fauci wrote:
Antivaxxers and devastation go together like steak and wine
It's almost as if you hate healthy people.
fisky wrote:
. . . Odds of getting covid over the next 12 months: 1 in 50 . . .
Unless you're living isolated in the basement, this seems like an unrealistically low estimate given the number of confirmed cases in the U.S.
