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The vaccines are problematic. They need to be researched further and improved or replaced.
Anyone who says this is a non-issue is an idiot, a liar, or profiting off of vaccines.
And this conclusion is based on what? An article published on "Science, Health Policy and the Law", which is basically a blog for anti-vaxxers? Are these your information soruces?
Yes any data that doesn't confirm your bias is just propaganda.
The state seem deeper than ever. Trump and his man wants to be in control of FBI and everything. Seems strange that Republican voters are supporting this. And also the inflation is going up
The state seem deeper than ever. Trump and his man wants to be in control of FBI and everything. Seems strange that Republican voters are supporting this. And also the inflation is going up
Under Trump (in both terms) inflation has never been above 3.0. It was above 9.0 under Biden/Harris.
The state seem deeper than ever. Trump and his man wants to be in control of FBI and everything. Seems strange that Republican voters are supporting this. And also the inflation is going up
You Libs throw stuff out there with no idea if it is correct or not. Please stop doing that. Deal with facts that you know.
And this conclusion is based on what? An article published on "Science, Health Policy and the Law", which is basically a blog for anti-vaxxers? Are these your information soruces?
Yes any data that doesn't confirm your bias is just propaganda.
lol...
Ok, you made me wasting 15 minutes of my time reading the "study". The authors look at children registered in Medicaid in Florida (that means poor children: black and hispanics are over represented in the sample). Then they look at children that have any claim related to vaccination and compare to children that have no claims related to vaccination. They find out that the larger the number of times that a child has seen a doctor, the more likely that it may have been diagnosed with a disability like hyperkineticism, ADHD, Autism etc...). This study is meaningless, because it lacks a control on the number of total visits for each child and their socioeconomic status. It is necessary to see a doctor and perform some specialized tests to be diagnosed with a disability like Autism or ADHD, a procedure that is fairly complex and time consuming. Most likely, many of the unvaccinated children have rarely or never seen a doctor, possibly because they live in disfunctional families. It is not very surprising that they are less likely to receive a diagnosis of Autism. A proper study should at the very least compare children from families with similar socioeconomic status and education that see a doctor with the same frequency.
The state seem deeper than ever. Trump and his man wants to be in control of FBI and everything. Seems strange that Republican voters are supporting this. And also the inflation is going up
Under Trump (in both terms) inflation has never been above 3.0. It was above 9.0 under Biden/Harris.
Why downvotes for what I wrote?!? Under Trump inflation has NEVER been above 3.0. Is that not accurate? You can't handle facts?
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Yes any data that doesn't confirm your bias is just propaganda.
lol...
Ok, you made me wasting 15 minutes of my time reading the "study". The authors look at children registered in Medicaid in Florida (that means poor children: black and hispanics are over represented in the sample). Then they look at children that have any claim related to vaccination and compare to children that have no claims related to vaccination. They find out that the larger the number of times that a child has seen a doctor, the more likely that it may have been diagnosed with a disability like hyperkineticism, ADHD, Autism etc...). This study is meaningless, because it lacks a control on the number of total visits for each child and their socioeconomic status. It is necessary to see a doctor and perform some specialized tests to be diagnosed with a disability like Autism or ADHD, a procedure that is fairly complex and time consuming. Most likely, many of the unvaccinated children have rarely or never seen a doctor, possibly because they live in disfunctional families. It is not very surprising that they are less likely to receive a diagnosis of Autism. A proper study should at the very least compare children from families with similar socioeconomic status and education that see a doctor with the same frequency.
"Well, I’m…uh…Were I to make the, uh, the announcement to run, the reasons that I would run is because I have a great belief in this country and that it is, there’s more natural resources than any nation in the world. There’s the greatest educated population in the world. The greatest technology of any country in the world. And the greatest capacity for innovation in the world. And the greatest political system in the world. And yet, uh, I see that the current time, that, uh, most of the industrial nations of the world are exceeding us in terms of productivity, uh, doing better than us in terms of meeting the problems of inflation, that they’re dealing with the problems of energy, and the problems of unemployment. And it just seems to me, that, uh, this nation can cope and deal with its problems in a way that it has in the past. We’re facing complex issues and problems in this nation at this time. But we have faced similar challenges at other times. And the energies and the resourcefulness of this nation, I think, should be focused on these problems in a way that brings a sense of, uh, restoration, uh, in this country by its people to, in dealing with the problems we face, primarily the issues on the economy, the problems of inflation, and the problems of, uh, energy. And, uh, I would basically feel that, uh, that it’s imperative for this country to move either move forward, that it can’t stand still. Or otherwise it moves backward."
- Senator Ted Kennedy on why he wanted to be president
Ok, you made me wasting 15 minutes of my time reading the "study". ... A proper study should at the very least compare children from families with similar socioeconomic status and education that see a doctor with the same frequency.
You are advocating that no study should be done.
I am advocating for the proper study.
No, you're really not. What you are advocating for is to ignore every study that does not align with your feelings.
The studies have been done. The verdict is in.
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"Vaccines and Autism: A Summary of Research
There has been a significant amount of research investigating the potential link between vaccinations and autism, particularly in the wake of the now-discredited 1998 study by Andrew Wakefield. Here's a summary of the key points from subsequent studies and reviews:
The Wakefield Study (1998):
The controversy started with a study published by British doctor Andrew Wakefield, which suggested that the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine could cause autism. The study was later found to have major methodological flaws and ethical issues. Wakefield's license was revoked, and the paper was retracted in 2010.
Subsequent Studies:
Large Population Studies: Multiple large-scale studies have since investigated the link between vaccines and autism, including studies involving hundreds of thousands of children. These studies have found no evidence of a connection between the MMR vaccine (or other vaccines) and autism.
A 2019 meta-analysis published in Annals of Internal Medicine found no increased risk of autism associated with vaccines.
Thimerosal and Autism:
Thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative once used in some vaccines, was another area of concern. However, studies comparing autism rates in children who received vaccines with thimerosal and those who did not show no difference in autism prevalence.
Thimerosal was removed from most childhood vaccines in the early 2000s as a precautionary measure, even though no evidence had shown it was harmful.
Autism Rates and Vaccination:
Autism rates have been increasing over the past few decades, but this increase is largely due to better awareness, improved diagnostic criteria, and broader recognition of the spectrum of autism spectrum disorder (ASD).
Importantly, vaccination rates have remained high during this period, further weakening any connection between vaccines and autism.
Conclusion:
Extensive research and reviews by organizations such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), World Health Organization (WHO), and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) consistently conclude that there is no scientific evidence supporting a link between vaccines and autism.
Vaccines are considered safe, and the benefits of immunization—such as preventing serious diseases like measles, mumps, and rubella—far outweigh any unsubstantiated concerns about autism." - ChatGPT
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WAIT! WAIT! I don't like the conclusions of those studies. Let's study it again!
No, you're really not. What you are advocating for is to ignore every study that does not align with your feelings.
The studies have been done. The verdict is in.
///////////////
"Vaccines and Autism: A Summary of Research
There has been a significant amount of research investigating the potential link between vaccinations and autism, particularly in the wake of the now-discredited 1998 study by Andrew Wakefield. Here's a summary of the key points from subsequent studies and reviews:
The Wakefield Study (1998):
The controversy started with a study published by British doctor Andrew Wakefield, which suggested that the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine could cause autism. The study was later found to have major methodological flaws and ethical issues. Wakefield's license was revoked, and the paper was retracted in 2010.
Subsequent Studies:
Large Population Studies: Multiple large-scale studies have since investigated the link between vaccines and autism, including studies involving hundreds of thousands of children. These studies have found no evidence of a connection between the MMR vaccine (or other vaccines) and autism.
A 2019 meta-analysis published in Annals of Internal Medicine found no increased risk of autism associated with vaccines.
Thimerosal and Autism:
Thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative once used in some vaccines, was another area of concern. However, studies comparing autism rates in children who received vaccines with thimerosal and those who did not show no difference in autism prevalence.
Thimerosal was removed from most childhood vaccines in the early 2000s as a precautionary measure, even though no evidence had shown it was harmful.
Autism Rates and Vaccination:
Autism rates have been increasing over the past few decades, but this increase is largely due to better awareness, improved diagnostic criteria, and broader recognition of the spectrum of autism spectrum disorder (ASD).
Importantly, vaccination rates have remained high during this period, further weakening any connection between vaccines and autism.
Conclusion:
Extensive research and reviews by organizations such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), World Health Organization (WHO), and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) consistently conclude that there is no scientific evidence supporting a link between vaccines and autism.
Vaccines are considered safe, and the benefits of immunization—such as preventing serious diseases like measles, mumps, and rubella—far outweigh any unsubstantiated concerns about autism." - ChatGPT
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WAIT! WAIT! I don't like the conclusions of those studies. Let's study it again!
I'm sure you would defend the studies big tobacco funded to the death as well...
Where did I say that no study should be done? I just said that that particular study that you cited is garbage and explained why. I even offered my suggestion for running a better study
On the other hand, you just wrote: "The vaccines are problematic. They need to be researched further and improved or replaced. Anyone who says this is a non-issue is an idiot, a liar, or profiting off of vaccines."
It looks like you have already decided that the issue that vaccines are dangerous is settled. Concerning you rant, could you elaborate on a few things:
Which vaccines? all, some? What does "problematic" mean? All vaccines have well-known side-effects, is that you are referring to? In a world with unlimited resources vaccines can be improved or replaced with better version, but if a better version cannot be found, what is your suggestion? Is your opinion that we should divert significant resources from research on cancer, neurodegenerative diseases, infectious diseases, etc.. to improve vaccine safety?
Where did I say that no study should be done? I just said that that particular study that you cited is garbage and explained why. I even offered my suggestion for running a better study
On the other hand, you just wrote: "The vaccines are problematic. They need to be researched further and improved or replaced. Anyone who says this is a non-issue is an idiot, a liar, or profiting off of vaccines."
It looks like you have already decided that the issue that vaccines are dangerous is settled. Concerning you rant, could you elaborate on a few things:
Which vaccines? all, some? What does "problematic" mean? All vaccines have well-known side-effects, is that you are referring to? In a world with unlimited resources vaccines can be improved or replaced with better version, but if a better version cannot be found, what is your suggestion? Is your opinion that we should divert significant resources from research on cancer, neurodegenerative diseases, infectious diseases, etc.. to improve vaccine safety?
Problematic means there are concerns about the side effects.
One side has a financial interest in maintain the status quo.
Ok, you made me wasting 15 minutes of my time reading the "study". The authors look at children registered in Medicaid in Florida (that means poor children: black and hispanics are over represented in the sample). Then they look at children that have any claim related to vaccination and compare to children that have no claims related to vaccination. They find out that the larger the number of times that a child has seen a doctor, the more likely that it may have been diagnosed with a disability like hyperkineticism, ADHD, Autism etc...). This study is meaningless, because it lacks a control on the number of total visits for each child and their socioeconomic status. It is necessary to see a doctor and perform some specialized tests to be diagnosed with a disability like Autism or ADHD, a procedure that is fairly complex and time consuming. Most likely, many of the unvaccinated children have rarely or never seen a doctor, possibly because they live in disfunctional families. It is not very surprising that they are less likely to receive a diagnosis of Autism. A proper study should at the very least compare children from families with similar socioeconomic status and education that see a doctor with the same frequency.
You are advocating that no study should be done.
I am advocating for the proper study.
When one describes how a proper study should be done, he is advocating for a proper study. He was also quite clear about the faults in the study you cited. Work on reading the entire post and comprehending it before responding in a way that makes it clear you did not.
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