Scam, you're not from the U.S. are you? The URC crowd seems to think it's Brits versus the Americans and that we just mindlessly bash Mimi. There are people here from all over and many of them ask legitimate questions about both attempts. Heck, read the first 10 pages of this thread to see how Sandy was questioned. No one really cares about what country you're from.
Markus wrote:
Markus, Sandy's elapsed time includes all her breaks. Mimi's excludes her breaks. Mimi's breaks get erased on Strava because she uploads separate data for each run. So, the number are even more stunning that you have in your spreadsheet.
I am aware of that but I don't know how you can see Mimi's lunch break times.
So just add at least 20 minutes per day for Mimi. Which mean Mimi's real rest time is even lower.
Okay, that is pretty reasonable.
Here are lunch breaks going back to Oct 4th
LUNCH BREAKS: Start - Stop (duration in minutes)
OCT 4: MIMI: 11:02 -11:42 AM - (40), SANDY 11:45 - 12:11 PM - (26)
- Note: Sandy's break was in the Colorado Mountains
OCT 5: MIMI : 12:02 - 12:29 PM - (27), SANDY : 11:36 - 12:05 PM (29)
OCT 6: MIMI : 10:45 - 11: 19 AM - (34), SANDY : 11:10 - 11:45 AM (35)
OCT 7: MIMI : 12:01 - 12:23 PM - (22), SANDY : 12:03 - 12:34 PM (31)
OCT 8: MIMI : 11:37 - 12:05 PM - (28), SANDY : 11:43 - 12:18 PM (35)
OCT 9 : MIMI : 11:49 - 12:17 PM - (28), SANDY : 12:00 - 12:46 PM (46)
OCT 10: MIMI : 11:06 - 12:00 PM (54), SANDY : 10:48 - 11:18 AM (30)
OCT 11: MIMI : 11:33 - 12:05 PM (32), SANDY : 10:52 - 11:19 AM (27)
- Note: Mimi has a Hospital break: 1:09 - 1:43 PM (34 minutes)
OCT 12: MIMI : 10:56 - 11:31 AM (35), SANDY : 10:32 - 11:02 AM (30)
OCT 13: MIMI : 11:35 - 12:01 PM (26), SANDY : 11:11 - 11:45 AM (34)
Results wrote:
Scam, you're not from the U.S. are you? The URC crowd seems to think it's Brits versus the Americans and that we just mindlessly bash Mimi. There are people here from all over and many of them ask legitimate questions about both attempts. Heck, read the first 10 pages of this thread to see how Sandy was questioned. No one really cares about what country you're from.
Exactly right. I have been following both of them to make sure they restarted where they stopped the day before. I was also interested in the logistics of making such a run work. And of course running pace. It made no difference to me where they were from: could have been Mars or Venus.
Clever guy wrote:
You've clearly made your mind up based not on the evidence but your own beliefs. Whatever happens you make fit your own theories.
You say their behaviour mirrors other cheaters but how exactly? By not fulfilling your demands? They have a race to run and you're just a gnat criticising them.
For what it's worth I've been in contact with the team, they're aware of LR but aren't following the thread, they don't need the negativity so aren't reading the thread.
How is it that I have made up my mind just in beliefs when in the first part of this whole thread I have repeatedly stated that I thought Mimi's Transcon run was legit before all this evidence surfaced? Belief was me saying Mimi was legit. Evidence is me changing that unfounded belief based on what I see happening.
It is not just about fulfilling my "demands". Everything Mimi and her team are doing its suspicious.
Can you share some of your communications with them? That is not what you would expect from an innocent runner. They are operating with a cloud of suspicion that only grows darker.
Results wrote:
So far today wrote:Mimi has been stopped since 08:47 AM Garmin time. It is now 11:15 AM Garmin time.
The Gamin arrow indicates it is still operating in the same location. An up arrow indicates the Garmin is off. The Garmin is stilling in the grassy median of the road. It is not clear to me that Mimi is with the Garmin because of the choice of stopping location.
That doesn't make sense though does it? I mean you wouldn't have Mimi immobile for two hours in the median. You also wouldn't have a support vehicle parked there for two hours. There must be some other explanation. Did she drop it accidentally? Not likely but I can't see why she would just sit there for this long.
It is now three hours. It makes no sense at all to rest in a grassy median for that long. I can imagine she took the Garmin off and hide it in the grass to recover it later, but if they took her to a hospital or a motel then that is lost information. Claiming privacy is one thing, but why hide that a diversion was made at all? What is the point of that?
Results wrote:
Scam, you're not from the U.S. are you? The URC crowd seems to think it's Brits versus the Americans and that we just mindlessly bash Mimi. There are people here from all over and many of them ask legitimate questions about both attempts. Heck, read the first 10 pages of this thread to see how Sandy was questioned. No one really cares about what country you're from.
I am not from the US. It doesn't matter to me the countries.
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:
They are operating with a cloud of suspicion that only grows darker.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Yet more bias.
So Far Today - as well as the sterling work you're doing tracking the mileage/times, any chance could you also make a note of when Scam comes up with another unfounded "theory"?
Maker of Points wrote:
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:They are operating with a cloud of suspicion that only grows darker.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Yet more bias.
So Far Today - as well as the sterling work you're doing tracking the mileage/times, any chance could you also make a note of when Scam comes up with another unfounded "theory"?
He doesn't have to, it will be in my detailed report I'm writing.
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:
Clever guy wrote:You've clearly made your mind up based not on the evidence but your own beliefs. Whatever happens you make fit your own theories.
You say their behaviour mirrors other cheaters but how exactly? By not fulfilling your demands? They have a race to run and you're just a gnat criticising them.
For what it's worth I've been in contact with the team, they're aware of LR but aren't following the thread, they don't need the negativity so aren't reading the thread.
How is it that I have made up my mind just in beliefs when in the first part of this whole thread I have repeatedly stated that I thought Mimi's Transcon run was legit before all this evidence surfaced? Belief was me saying Mimi was legit. Evidence is me changing that unfounded belief based on what I see happening.
It is not just about fulfilling my "demands". Everything Mimi and her team are doing its suspicious.
Can you share some of your communications with them? That is not what you would expect from an innocent runner. They are operating with a cloud of suspicion that only grows darker.
Because the last 40 pages have been fuelled by your assumptions! Something you can't explain? Cheating.
Each and every time your assumption that something nefarious must be going on. I've found the simplest explanation is usually the right one but you seem to have the most convoluted contradictory explanation for everything. Parked in a hospital car park? Cortisone injection. Odd shadow on the throat? Tracheotomy.
You seem to think hyperbole is the default setting. 'everything' they do is suspicious? Oh please.
And no, I'm not going to share private communications.
Maker of Points wrote:
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:They are operating with a cloud of suspicion that only grows darker.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Yet more bias.
So Far Today - as well as the sterling work you're doing tracking the mileage/times, any chance could you also make a note of when Scam comes up with another unfounded "theory"?
I'll leave that one up to you. I keep the results information limited to information. The split results tell the a story by themselves.
Observations I make I post separately. That allows people to pick out the results and read them while ignoring everything else.
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:
He doesn't have to, it will be in my detailed report I'm writing.
Oh dear. I previously said 'any chance could you also make a note of when Scam comes up with another **unfounded** "theory"'
At least we now seem to be in agreement, which is a bit of a shock to me. I think I need a lie down!
Golden Corral wrote:
Reminds me of when we were all looking at Rob Young's R.V. at the Golden Corral waiting for it to move. After LRC starts taking a hard look at these cheats they get slower and slower until they stop for good.
I will have to disagree with you.
OCT 14th:
Miles Done: Based on Sandy's 5 mile splits
START OF DAY: Sandy 02:46 AM / Mimi 02:09 AM
As of 03:55 AM: Sandy 5 / Mimi 6-1/2 (Mimi +37 minute head start)
As of 04:57 AM: Sandy 10 / Mimi 10
As of 06:04 AM: Sandy 15 / Mimi 14
As of 07:09 AM: Sandy 20 / Mimi 17-1/2
As of 08:09 AM: Sandy 25 / Mimi 20-1/2
As of 09:12 AM: Sandy 30 / Mimi 22-1/2
As of 10:13 AM: Sandy 35 / Mimi **
Lunch Break: Sandy 35-1/2 miles, 10:22 AM - 10:59 AM (37 minutes)
As of 11:58 AM: Sandy 40 / Mimi **
** Mimi has been stopped since 08:47 AM
Clever guy wrote:
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:How is it that I have made up my mind just in beliefs when in the first part of this whole thread I have repeatedly stated that I thought Mimi's Transcon run was legit before all this evidence surfaced? Belief was me saying Mimi was legit. Evidence is me changing that unfounded belief based on what I see happening.
It is not just about fulfilling my "demands". Everything Mimi and her team are doing its suspicious.
Can you share some of your communications with them? That is not what you would expect from an innocent runner. They are operating with a cloud of suspicion that only grows darker.
Because the last 40 pages have been fuelled by your assumptions! Something you can't explain? Cheating.
Each and every time your assumption that something nefarious must be going on. I've found the simplest explanation is usually the right one but you seem to have the most convoluted contradictory explanation for everything. Parked in a hospital car park? Cortisone injection. Odd shadow on the throat? Tracheotomy.
You seem to think hyperbole is the default setting. 'everything' they do is suspicious? Oh please.
And no, I'm not going to share private communications.
good point lying about race drone simplist explanation they were doing something dodgy lying about someone being arrested simplist explanation is they did not want people following them
Golden Corral wrote:
Reminds me of when we were all looking at Rob Young's R.V. at the Golden Corral waiting for it to move. After LRC starts taking a hard look at these cheats they get slower and slower until they stop for good.
And their trolls get more desperate.
Clever guy wrote:
And no, I'm not going to share private communications.
Haha, this is starting to sound more and more like the Rob Young and Dave Reading stunts.
Golden Corral wrote:
Marvelous Mimi knows about the LR thread because it is full of stalkers who will be arrested if they try to run with her! Marvelous Mimi doesnt need the negativity of runners who know how to spot a rat.
Clever guy wrote:
blah blah blah
No one gives a f*** what you think.
So far today wrote:
Results wrote:That doesn't make sense though does it? I mean you wouldn't have Mimi immobile for two hours in the median. You also wouldn't have a support vehicle parked there for two hours. There must be some other explanation. Did she drop it accidentally? Not likely but I can't see why she would just sit there for this long.
It is now three hours. It makes no sense at all to rest in a grassy median for that long. I can imagine she took the Garmin off and hide it in the grass to recover it later, but if they took her to a hospital or a motel then that is lost information. Claiming privacy is one thing, but why hide that a diversion was made at all? What is the point of that?
That actually makes sense thanks. I think that is the most likely explanation. They would want to protect her privacy. I don't agree with it personally (if she needed a hospital then yes that I can understand) but they've done this sort of thing before.