My favorite quote of this morning
Laz:
"RY has stopped for what has become a usual midnight break.
he is knackered.
looks like another day of being right on the line.
he cannot afford to not match what he did the last 2 days.
his whole run is at risk again."
Robert ran 60 miles under supervision yesterday.
Let's see what he can do today.
Wow, hasn't seen his own daughter in 3 year and instead is faking a run across America to self promote himself and getting charitable donations (and keeping what percentage as "expenses" we will never know as in all "charities"). What a piece work this fraud is!
Markus wrote:
My favorite quote of this morning
Laz:
"RY has stopped for what has become a usual midnight break.
he is knackered.
looks like another day of being right on the line.
he cannot afford to not match what he did the last 2 days.
his whole run is at risk again."
Robert ran 60 miles under supervision yesterday.
Let's see what he can do today.
doesnt take much to please you
Has anyone even mentioned this dude's body fat percentage??? With that many miles per day he should be striated and vascular as f*ck. He looks my friend who quit the xc team and smokes weed everyday
RY RY the Chubster wrote:
Has anyone even mentioned this dude's body fat percentage??? With that many miles per day he should be striated and vascular as f*ck. He looks my friend who quit the xc team and smokes weed everyday
He was a competitive bodybuilder a few years back
http://watchfit.com/experts/fitness-and-personal-trainers/dominika-brooks-5937EASTSHEENGANG wrote:
Interesting.
The wife of the boss of the East Sheen Gang (Dustin Brooks) is Dominika Brooks.
She apparently has been a pro 400m hurdles athlete.
She is Polish, just like Rob's wife, and just like one of the CCTV journalists who were following the RV for some days.
Now she's Rob's masseuse.
Marginal wrote:
They didn't even plan the route apparently. Too busy behaving like gap-year pillocks it seems.
My vocabulary will never be the same after this thread. Thank you, Brits!
Tracker and GPS data are cans of worms. Here's another. Although the
letsrun conversation is 98% noise, the remaining 2% is worth noting.
There is a day that Rob's RV got stuck in the desert. The location is
known. There is a photo circulating of him next to the stuck RV. The exif
data from that photo gives a timestamp of A.
Later, as part of the blog, there are photos of a freshly showered (and
rested? well, rested looking) Rob enjoying the life of the destination
they've reached. The exif data from that gives a timestamp of B.
The distance between the stuck RV's location and that town is 40+ miles by
road or 23ish miles over a small set of mountains w/o roads nor marked
trails.
Whether he legged out the 40+ road miles or somehow orienteered his way
through the brush for 23ish miles without navigational aids, the time
between A and B is incredible. And I mean that in a literal sense.
While exif data can be manipulated too, it would make no sense to adjust
timestamps in a way that would make the distance traveled pretty much
impossible by foot.
Andy, I know you are standing up for your friend. And letsrun is a lot of
noise. But the person who put the above info together actually did some
important legwork. Without 'hating'. I commend you for leaving that
conversation alone and standing up for Rob, but it is discrepancies such as
this which are puzzling.
When I look at photos of Rob since Laz joined, I see a guy who is really
working hard. Thumbs up. At the same time, I wonder why he did not look
quite like this in photos posted during the earlier parts all the way to
Missouri. I'm not making an accusation, and I'm not a hater. I'm making an
honest observation.
Last thing. I've been around US running message boards for 16 years now.
Dynamics and sociology are interesting. letsrun ESPECIALLY so. Andy,
you've announced (maybe twice?) in the letsrun conversation that you are
leaving and dramatically told them why. This is your right, but or better
or worse, this is known as "flouncing". When you return, as you have, it
just marks you for more of that special "Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids"
banter that they are so well known for. I'm not saying you should/shouldn't
post there... that is your decision... but if you decide to leave, my
advice is to do it quietly. Flouncing does not serve the purpose you think
it does beyond the possible catharsis of writing tell-off words.
Good luck.
I really wanted to believe in Rob. I do not currently.
QualityPost wrote:
Tracker and GPS data are cans of worms. Here's another. Although the
letsrun conversation is 98% noise, the remaining 2% is worth noting.
There is a day that Rob's RV got stuck in the desert. The location is
known. There is a photo circulating of him next to the stuck RV. The exif
data from that photo gives a timestamp of A.
Later, as part of the blog, there are photos of a freshly showered (and
rested? well, rested looking) Rob enjoying the life of the destination
they've reached. The exif data from that gives a timestamp of B.
The distance between the stuck RV's location and that town is 40+ miles by
road or 23ish miles over a small set of mountains w/o roads nor marked
trails.
Whether he legged out the 40+ road miles or somehow orienteered his way
through the brush for 23ish miles without navigational aids, the time
between A and B is incredible. And I mean that in a literal sense.
While exif data can be manipulated too, it would make no sense to adjust
timestamps in a way that would make the distance traveled pretty much
impossible by foot.
Andy, I know you are standing up for your friend. And letsrun is a lot of
noise. But the person who put the above info together actually did some
important legwork. Without 'hating'. I commend you for leaving that
conversation alone and standing up for Rob, but it is discrepancies such as
this which are puzzling.
When I look at photos of Rob since Laz joined, I see a guy who is really
working hard. Thumbs up. At the same time, I wonder why he did not look
quite like this in photos posted during the earlier parts all the way to
Missouri. I'm not making an accusation, and I'm not a hater. I'm making an
honest observation.
Last thing. I've been around US running message boards for 16 years now.
Dynamics and sociology are interesting. letsrun ESPECIALLY so. Andy,
you've announced (maybe twice?) in the letsrun conversation that you are
leaving and dramatically told them why. This is your right, but or better
or worse, this is known as "flouncing". When you return, as you have, it
just marks you for more of that special "Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids"
banter that they are so well known for. I'm not saying you should/shouldn't
post there... that is your decision... but if you decide to leave, my
advice is to do it quietly. Flouncing does not serve the purpose you think
it does beyond the possible catharsis of writing tell-off words.
Good luck.
I really wanted to believe in Rob. I do not currently.
With that post 98.1% of this thread became noise.
This was posted on FB and likely explains how RY fueled his amazing run through the Mohave:
Not all water is created equal...
The cheater is done.
Today... is looking brutal. Over the last 2 hours he covered 4.6 miles
while sort of moving constantly. Some 5 - 15 minute breaks sprinkled in. No
3 minute marker has been covered at faster than 15 min/mi pace. When he's
moving it has been mostly 16-18min/mi pace.
The Scot wrote:
Flyby is a feature on Strava, it shows a list of people whose routes crossed yours and a link to their activity. You can then post a comment on their activity, look at their PBs and snort contempuously or just stalk them from then onwards ('Follow' them). The listing shows the proportion of your routes that overlapped. Beyond a certain limit they get listed as having done the activity with you,can't remember what the limit is, maybe 90% overlap?
That's rather creepy. Glad I never joined Strava.
I'm confused wrote:
Arealpersson must be Schrödinger's cat.
Arealpersson both is and isn't Arealpersson at the same time.
Me too
God will see this great man through
Through the persecution of you haters.
QualityPost wrote:
The cheater is done.
Today... is looking brutal. Over the last 2 hours he covered 4.6 miles
while sort of moving constantly. Some 5 - 15 minute breaks sprinkled in. No
3 minute marker has been covered at faster than 15 min/mi pace. When he's
moving it has been mostly 16-18min/mi pace.
He's not done until Allah says he is
QualityPost wrote:
The cheater is done.
Today... is looking brutal. Over the last 2 hours he covered 4.6 miles
while sort of moving constantly. Some 5 - 15 minute breaks sprinkled in. No
3 minute marker has been covered at faster than 15 min/mi pace. When he's
moving it has been mostly 16-18min/mi pace.
Don't worry - he's just waiting for the thermometer to hit desert temps then he'll drop a 40 mile stretch at 6 minute miling.
Robert MF Young is back baby! wrote:
Pics of Robert running:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck9MzTNXAAQxaMn.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck9MqvLW0AA0SAy.jpgRayK says: he DOES run very fast at times - and he is a talented runner.
Suck on that, haters.
Moran, very fast is sub 4 mile pace. He has NO running talent, other than jogging miles.
BackUpRV Driver wrote:
OK - SO per RY web site and predicted arrival time table, he is apparently 3 days off schedule now. For the math wiz's here - how does this effect his record attempt to get to NYC? How many miles per day does he need to do in order to make it to NYC to get the record?
I have been watching his progress as I may go visit the ol' boy when he gets closer but his slow ass is screwing up my schedule!
Wish he would have just stayed in the RV while ol' dusty drove him and tweeted about how GREAT RY is. Gosh, this sounds eerily familiar to the dane r cheat -
http://baitman.blogspot.com/2013/12/dickstarter.html?m=1- at least dane only did it for 202 miles.
There are so many factors. They seem to really be taking the shortest routes, even if they are the most dangerous. I wouldn't be so confident they are that much behind. However, if they are indeed lagging by the time they are close to NYC he's got no shot. Getting to NYC is a pain, there is no easy or direct route. They will have to bake that into their calculations. The fact that they planned to finish in Times Square to begin with is proof that they are truly noobs. I actually applaud Rob for sticking it out since the ultra crew arrived, but I have zero sympathy for all the scrutiny and their unexplained f**k ups and shenanigans in the first half.
RY has just looked stressed out ever since he got exposed as a cheater.
It's definitely wearing on him that he will be exposed in due time.
Face of a cheater.
The reports from Laz about RY and his team being fairly incompetent really help to complete the picture for me.
It paints the image of an inexperienced ultra runner whose only intention was to increase his celebrity.
The inexperience is highlighted by the safety issues and the horrendous pacing. They just don't know any better and also likely didn't know that strings of 6:00 miles would raise eyebrows.
The whole thing was for publicity. Interviews, blogs, and social media took precedence over logistical details, data collection, and actually completing the task.
They never dreamed people would do anything other than take their word for it. In their minds the RV tracker was more of a cool toy for the fans rather than proof.
For that reason, I don't think all of the GPS data for the first half of the run exists. I'm sure they have some, but there is no way they have a continuous record of his runs, even from the GPS watch sitting on the dash of the RV. It never crossed their mind someone would ask for it.
