We know Trump had stolen documents squirrelled away here and there, in the storage room by the pool, in Melanie's closet, etc -- FBI had to take lots of stuff to make sure they didn't miss anything. Trump is Chief Secret Squirrel.
The Special Master is the straw that broke the back of yet another ill-conceived attack on the impunity of the best president of my lifetime. Will the libs ever learn? Trump is teflon.
The special master is unlikely to do anything much to help Trump other than to delay charges, if charges are coming. It also is worth noting that the judge's decision is poorly reasoned. An injunction requires a finding that Trump is irreparably harmed by the government's grab of some of the documents. Essentially, she wrote that because Trump would be deprived of the documents that are his, rather than the government's, for a temporary period of time, he is irreparably harmed. That isn't irreparable harm -- it is temporary harm that can be remedied at law by return of documents that are his at a later date. I expect the DOJ to appeal.
And of course, none of the "harm" would have occurred if Trump had returned the government property one of the times he was politely requested to do so or, barring that, had kept them all segregated in a single place under lock.
I think the Special Master may reassure Trump that the attorney-client privileged documents have been properly culled out from all the Top Secret classified stuff he stole. There's probably a lot of REALLY bad stuff in the attorney-client documents, like discussions on whether to plead the Fifth, etc. Trump doesn't want the investigative Feds reading that stuff.
As to irreparable harm, I don't believe Judge Cannon was concerned with temporary lack of access to his documents, but rather that the Feds' privilege team will not adequately safeguard his interests. The Judge mentioned two instances, admitted to by the Feds, where the investigative team had access to attorney-client privileged materials.
I think the real reason that Judge Cannon wants the Special Master is that the Feds told her they had 520 pages of potentially attorney-client privileged material for her to review ex parte, under existing protocol, and she doesn't want to do it. I don't know if she is lazy, legitimately overworked, or strangely uninterested (who wouldn't want a glimpse of what Trump is saying to Giuliani?). But she wants the Special Master doing the review, not herself.
Much of the rest of the Order makes no sense. The whole executive privilege thing is bizarre. The Feds could attempt some kind of appeal, and get an actual legal mind looking at the issue, but I think the better strategy is just let the Special Master do his/her thing and then end up in three weeks right where they are now. The bottom line is they have the unidentified documents that Trump MAY claim "executive privilege" over. If Trump does, Judge Cannon can't give them back to Trump because they belong to the government. If he doesn't, they are just more documents subject to search warrant. He's never getting them back ever, under any legal theory. The whole executive privilege thing is a red herring that no one seems to have thought through. I think the Judge and Trump's lawyers are confusing/conflating the scope of attorney-client privilege and executive privilege.
Inflation impacts all Americans and that's just one of the problems created by Biden.
Trump's only impact on my life was lower taxes.
You're either being completely dishonest or you don't pay for anything in your household.
Inflation, inschmation.
As you know, that wasn't my point. You are in here "obsessing" about things that have no impact on your life -- e.g., search warrant aimed at Trump -- to the same degree or more as the poster (Grace) who you said was obsessing over something that has no impact on their life. That's called "hypocrisy" amongst other things.
You didn't have a point beyond rooting for your team.
Your team caused the inflation.
Stop voting for idiots. Hamburger buns are $5 because of people who "think" like you.
U.S. District Judge from the Southern District of Florida Judge Aileen M. Cannon has revealed that among the documents seized by the FBI at Mar-a-Lago from former President Trump were 40 years’ worth of medical records and accounting information connected to his taxes.
The perils of keeping your personal medical and tax documents in with the classified government documents that you know the government is trying to get back. Poor file hygiene. Sloppy. Some goddam file clerk at Mar-El-Bago needs to be fired for shoddy job performance.
Ah well, no harm, no foul. The medical documents are irrelevant, and the tax documents were all subpoenaed from tax authorities and accountants long ago. What Trump should REALLY be screaming about is this stuff, below. He should be screaming how terrible it is that the government took this stuff from him. Why are people so mean?
My first thought at reading carmine9's post was 'Trump keeps those records at Lardoville?
Of course carmine9's conclusion that those records were the real target of the subpoena is absurd. The government had no way of knowing those documents would be there, and given the court rulings regarding Trump's tax returns, that information wouldn't have been a prime target. And the silly thing is that even if those records were the real target, Trump could have thwarted the government at any point by simply returning the documents that he shouldn't have had.
I dont care if you share my 'views' what I care about is your inability to grasp reality and your clear lack of ability to judge character.
Not sharing "your" views (actually fed to you by the Oligarchs' propaganda machine) triggers you to say "..your inability to grasp reality and your clear lack of ability to judge character."
Amazing you cannot see this
Again I will suggest you reassess your understanding of the word trigger/triggered in the context of this MB.
You continue to tout Trump as some kind of everyman's victim that is being targeted by a deep state conspiracy when the facts state the exact opposite.
He is an life long incompetent grifter whose criminality is finally catching up to him. It is really that simple.
By supporting Trump you support a former POTUS that illegally held classified docs in non secure location and attempted to supplant state level election officials in hopes of over turning an election in his favor. This is the political hill you are choosing to die on - that is your choice but I am free to point out the obvious error of your decision.
As you know, that wasn't my point. You are in here "obsessing" about things that have no impact on your life -- e.g., search warrant aimed at Trump -- to the same degree or more as the poster (Grace) who you said was obsessing over something that has no impact on their life. That's called "hypocrisy" amongst other things.
You didn't have a point beyond rooting for your team.
Your team caused the inflation.
Stop voting for idiots. Hamburger buns are $5 because of people who "think" like you.
No, my point was you were criticizing a poster for behaving the exact way you behave. That was my point. That remains my point. There is no dispute, amongst reasonable, literate adults, as to what my point was, is, and will be in the future.
The problem is that your team, such as it is, appears to be composed of a bunch of neo-fringe guys who care how much hamburger buns cost. Maybe if you had been a hard working American all your life, you wouldn't be worrying about the price of hamburger buns and why your socks don't match? Ask not what your country can feed you for cheap, rather ask what you can do FOR your country. You understand what I'm saying to you?
Not sharing "your" views (actually fed to you by the Oligarchs' propaganda machine) triggers you to say "..your inability to grasp reality and your clear lack of ability to judge character."
Amazing you cannot see this
Again I will suggest you reassess your understanding of the word trigger/triggered in the context of this MB.
You continue to tout Trump as some kind of everyman's victim that is being targeted by a deep state conspiracy when the facts state the exact opposite.
He is an life long incompetent grifter whose criminality is finally catching up to him. It is really that simple.
By supporting Trump you support a former POTUS that illegally held classified docs in non secure location and attempted to supplant state level election officials in hopes of over turning an election in his favor. This is the political hill you are choosing to die on - that is your choice but I am free to point out the obvious error of your decision.
Amazing.
You continue to incorrectly summarize my posts.
You seem incapable of the simplest understanding. I am not a Trump supporter
What the Deep State is pulling with Trump is bad news for all of us.
Again I will suggest you reassess your understanding of the word trigger/triggered in the context of this MB.
You continue to tout Trump as some kind of everyman's victim that is being targeted by a deep state conspiracy when the facts state the exact opposite.
He is an life long incompetent grifter whose criminality is finally catching up to him. It is really that simple.
By supporting Trump you support a former POTUS that illegally held classified docs in non secure location and attempted to supplant state level election officials in hopes of over turning an election in his favor. This is the political hill you are choosing to die on - that is your choice but I am free to point out the obvious error of your decision.
Amazing.
You continue to incorrectly summarize my posts.
You seem incapable of the simplest understanding. I am not a Trump supporter
What the Deep State is pulling with Trump is bad news for all of us.
For a guy who doesn't like cake you talk alot about why cake is very good and better than ice cream
You seem incapable of the simplest understanding. I am not a Trump supporter
What the Deep State is pulling with Trump is bad news for all of us.
For a guy who doesn't like cake you talk alot about why cake is very good and better than ice cream
Any nuance is too much for you.
The Deep State spent 4 years trying to prevent Trump from governing (as elected to do so by the people) and now want to prevent him from running in 2024 (do now want to give the people that choice).
And you cannot see the danger in that and instead assume I m a Trump fan.
Again I will suggest you reassess your understanding of the word trigger/triggered in the context of this MB.
You continue to tout Trump as some kind of everyman's victim that is being targeted by a deep state conspiracy when the facts state the exact opposite.
He is an life long incompetent grifter whose criminality is finally catching up to him. It is really that simple.
By supporting Trump you support a former POTUS that illegally held classified docs in non secure location and attempted to supplant state level election officials in hopes of over turning an election in his favor. This is the political hill you are choosing to die on - that is your choice but I am free to point out the obvious error of your decision.
Amazing.
You continue to incorrectly summarize my posts.
You seem incapable of the simplest understanding. I am not a Trump supporter
What the Deep State is pulling with Trump is bad news for all of us.
It's egregious. The government denying tax-paying citizens access to documents created with their own tax dollars. Where's the transparency? Government keeping secrets from its own people with "classified" this, "top secret" that, and "sealed" every which goddam way from here to high heaven. Neo-Orwellian social-fascists would have been proud of the infrastructure and apparatus Deep State has set up to keep the decent, J. Christ-fearing American people ignorant and platatonic.
You didn't have a point beyond rooting for your team.
Your team caused the inflation.
Stop voting for idiots. Hamburger buns are $5 because of people who "think" like you.
No, my point was you were criticizing a poster for behaving the exact way you behave. That was my point. That remains my point. There is no dispute, amongst reasonable, literate adults, as to what my point was, is, and will be in the future.
The problem is that your team, such as it is, appears to be composed of a bunch of neo-fringe guys who care how much hamburger buns cost. Maybe if you had been a hard working American all your life, you wouldn't be worrying about the price of hamburger buns and why your socks don't match? Ask not what your country can feed you for cheap, rather ask what you can do FOR your country. You understand what I'm saying to you?
I'm upper middle class and I can afford plenty of food even at these ridiculous Biden prices.
The majority of Americans are not so fortunate.
While ignorant slobs like yourself might not care that inflation is at a 40 year high and climbing while Biden continues to spend money he doesn't have like crazy, the consequences are devastating to ordinary Americans.
He gives hate filled campaign speeches about how his political opponents are the enemy all while actively working to ruin the lives of all Americans.
Former AG Bill Barr called a Trump-appointed judge's decision in the Mar-a-Lago investigation "wrong." A federal judge ruled to appoint a special master to review evidence the FBI seized from Mar-a-Lago. "I think the government should appeal it," Barr told Fox News.
Former AG Bill Barr called a Trump-appointed judge's decision in the Mar-a-Lago investigation "wrong." A federal judge ruled to appoint a special master to review evidence the FBI seized from Mar-a-Lago. "I think the government should appeal it," Barr told Fox News.
The FBI has been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt to be completely corrupt. No reasonable person would believe they can deal with any Trump related issue without bias.
Former AG Bill Barr called a Trump-appointed judge's decision in the Mar-a-Lago investigation "wrong." A federal judge ruled to appoint a special master to review evidence the FBI seized from Mar-a-Lago. "I think the government should appeal it," Barr told Fox News.
No, my point was you were criticizing a poster for behaving the exact way you behave. That was my point. That remains my point. There is no dispute, amongst reasonable, literate adults, as to what my point was, is, and will be in the future.
The problem is that your team, such as it is, appears to be composed of a bunch of neo-fringe guys who care how much hamburger buns cost. Maybe if you had been a hard working American all your life, you wouldn't be worrying about the price of hamburger buns and why your socks don't match? Ask not what your country can feed you for cheap, rather ask what you can do FOR your country. You understand what I'm saying to you?
I'm upper middle class and I can afford plenty of food even at these ridiculous Biden prices.
The majority of Americans are not so fortunate.
While ignorant slobs like yourself might not care that inflation is at a 40 year high and climbing while Biden continues to spend money he doesn't have like crazy, the consequences are devastating to ordinary Americans.
He gives hate filled campaign speeches about how his political opponents are the enemy all while actively working to ruin the lives of all Americans.
And you support him.
Opposing people like you is just common sense.
How do WE know that YOU don't support Biden? You're the one eating hamburger buns and calling yourself "upper middle class" like some Biden-voting, snobby elite type. Pretty Biden-ish if you ask me. When was the last time you even prayed to our lord J. Christ? Yeah, I thought as much . . . . .
As you know, that wasn't my point. You are in here "obsessing" about things that have no impact on your life -- e.g., search warrant aimed at Trump -- to the same degree or more as the poster (Grace) who you said was obsessing over something that has no impact on their life. That's called "hypocrisy" amongst other things.
You didn't have a point beyond rooting for your team.
Your team caused the inflation.
Stop voting for idiots. Hamburger buns are $5 because of people who "think" like you.
In the interests of national security, it was the FBI’s duty to investigate credible evidence suggesting the future president may have been compromised.
What the Deep State is pulling with Trump is bad news for all of us.
That's funny if it wasn't so sad, Unkle. You're a full blown member of the cult. "Deep state" gets you a free decoder ring, right?! Oh, and Trump is f*cked. Not good having nuclear secrets at MAL. Ouch. It's only going to get worse for Trumpers.