Robert Young fakes run across America

truth will out wrote:

If indeed he has been found to have obtained such money on false grounds, there may well be grounds here for criminal prosecution. An example should be made of him to deter anyone else from having the brass neck to repeat something on this scale again.

Spot on! In the US many 501c3s allow such behavior because there is little investigation into them, especially when they are run by the disabled "to inspire others" which is an exact quote from one guy's mission statement. A huge amount of money is milked from the unsuspecting in this manner.

Is this yet another lie by Rob?

During which 5K split "in the middle of the race" did this "20 minutes interview" happen?

http://results-2015.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2015/?content=detail&fpid=search&pid=search&idp=9999990F5ECC83000016BBF2&lang=EN_CAP&event=MAS&search%5Bname%5D=young&search%5Bfirstname%5D=robert&search%5Bsex%5D=%25&search%5Bnation%5D=%25&search_sort=name&search_event=MAS

The next day was the London Marathon. I had to run it very quickly in order to catch my plane back to the US for the rest of the series I was running over there. It was all tight margins and I had a motorbike waiting at the finish to whisk me off to Heathrow as soon as I was done. I threw in a quick pace and stopped for a good 20 minutes in the middle of the race to do some interviews and say hello to some friends who had come down to the race to see me. It was a manic couple of days, but I reached 370. It was a big moment and the end of an amazing year for me.

http://www.runultra.co.uk/Articles/October-2015/Q-A-Rob-Young-MarathonManUK-no-2

Klukkluk wrote:

Not in Kansas Anymore wrote:

Does this Great and Powerful Laz not understand that we really don't need to know whether not RY is cheating now? We really need to have him upload his GPS data for the miraculous segments earlier in the run. And now I hear that he is advising RY not to post his data?

At least he makes sure he's doing the miles. That is what it's comes down to, to see if he can churn out the miles despite getting more fatigued every day. He was supposedly used to running a Marathon a day, now he has to run at least 2 to get anywhere close to that record. For 2 weeks more.

It's not what we need. This whole thing is soooo simple: We don't need Laz there right now. We don't need Let'sRunners there. We don't need ultra runners there. We need him to upload his TomTom data from the start of the run. That's ALL we need.

1. These videos are of my attempt to run with Rob. I guess you mean why didn't I record running up toward the rv. "Hey, your nighttime videos are terrible, but this shaky nighttime video really proves it"

2. I don't think it is relevant what my intention was. Say I went out to catch him cheating; I still have the video with no runner in sight while the crew has verified he was with the rv at that time.

All of that is pretty much true. I didn't look through the entire night of footage looking for someone because it made sense that Rob would be near the rv if it was driving that slow. Then Rob asked if I would post additional footage, so I went to get it. They weren't pleased with the speed I was working, so they contacted the owner to get the video as well.

I have not proven anything, but I have brought "a hornet's nest of speculation" which was needed because we know things are now being done legit. The questions still linger in the time before I stirred things up.

RobBeggar wrote:

Is this yet another lie by Rob?

During which 5K split "in the middle of the race" did this "20 minutes interview" happen?

Obviously from 20 to 25 km. Which other 5k split would be in the middle of a marathon?

Come on guys wrote:

Klukkluk wrote:

At least he makes sure he's doing the miles. That is what it's comes down to, to see if he can churn out the miles despite getting more fatigued every day. He was supposedly used to running a Marathon a day, now he has to run at least 2 to get anywhere close to that record. For 2 weeks more.

It's not what we need. This whole thing is soooo simple: We don't need Laz there right now. We don't need Let'sRunners there. We don't need ultra runners there. We need him to upload his TomTom data from the start of the run. That's ALL we need.

True but I think what Las and co are doing just now is forcing the true picture which contrasts massively with that back in the early days.

Pre Laz & Co - Rob bouncing along completing 70+ mile days while running 6 min miles and below (a sub 36 10k casually flung in) and time to stop for days out at the Grand Canyon.

With Laz & Co - Rob reduced to a walk and struggling to post the initial daily mileage he was supposedly churning out back in the desert.

Having Laz there is actually helping the case against him.

He probably uses this formula (T- inflated interview time) to work out his 5k / 10 pbs.

I'm a believer now. Rob has inspired me to strap on my Garmin 220 and go for a drive.

Without being too scientific, it appears RY needs to cover about 58-60 miles per day (24-hr period) for about 14 more days to break the current record. He's on the bleeding edge right now. He's been in the 56-60 mile range each 24 hr period for the past couple of days. Big question: can he keep that up for two more weeks? Pace appears to have slowed quite abit last night (he's does most of his running/walking overnight). Covered about 32 miles since resuming near Martinsville, IL last night around 6:30-6:45pm.

Totally agree. Laz is wearing him down. He's been trying to show off in the first couple of days on relatively fresh legs. As soon as he hits some hills he's toast.

Come on guys wrote:

Klukkluk wrote:

At least he makes sure he's doing the miles. That is what it's comes down to, to see if he can churn out the miles despite getting more fatigued every day. He was supposedly used to running a Marathon a day, now he has to run at least 2 to get anywhere close to that record. For 2 weeks more.

It's not what we need. This whole thing is soooo simple: We don't need Laz there right now. We don't need Let'sRunners there. We don't need ultra runners there. We need him to upload his TomTom data from the start of the run. That's ALL we need.

Yes. And all a court needs to prove a crime is video of the crime being committed. That would be wonderful.

Per the data from the beginning of the run, people here have been chanting "we need this" since the beginning. Well, unless you can somehow turn this into a criminal matter, it should be obvious that you aren't going to get this. They don't have to give it to you. And that might be damning enough that they won't give, but the point is that it isn't coming. Even if rojo waves a fat stack.

Which, by the way, it's time for rojo's daily arrival to mention that he's going to offer to send them a watch and big money if they can show he has the horsepower to run x miles at y pace. Which is kind of bogus, won't say much about what happened in the desert, and even if he's on the level would be completely normal that he cannot do at this point in the run.

The day in the desert is the smoking gun.

The night in kansas is also telling.

The pace adjustment since being monitored is important.

The photos before he was joined (pale, well hydrated. etc) vs those coming out now (sunburned, sallow, maybe maybe not losing weight) are telling.

But you guys will never see all the data from the beginning of the run. "Flying a Strava rep out!" is a just a big eyeroll.

Focus.

Tom Crockford wrote:

Considering there is a blog post made many days before showing RY in a full black outfit at night with a torch in his hand.

The universe im in is the one that looks at things properly.

I live in a universe where only a complete idiot runs on roads at night dressed all in black or someone who has other motives for being hard to see.

How is the evidence for his pro cycling career coming along?

SmartRunnr wrote:

RobBeggar wrote:

Is this yet another lie by Rob?

During which 5K split "in the middle of the race" did this "20 minutes interview" happen?

Obviously from 20 to 25 km. Which other 5k split would be in the middle of a marathon?

Well, that was a 26 minute split. Minus the 20 minute interview, means that he ran 5K in 6 minutes?

The Brits are coming!

Robert Young and his team of fellow grifters and con men make their living by getting people to donate to their endeavors. They hitch themselves to "aspirational" charities to further their cause.

The best thing to do is to constantly point out their athletic and financial fabrications.

Tom Crockford wrote:

Laz doesn't care about letsrun and its members.

Why would he?

You act like a bunch of morons and expect someone to care about you?

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

Tom Crockford wrote:

Considering there is a blog post made many days before showing RY in a full black outfit at night with a torch in his hand.

The universe im in is the one that looks at things properly.

I live in a universe where only a complete idiot runs on roads at night dressed all in black or someone who has other motives for being hard to see.

How is the evidence for his pro cycling career coming along?

Yes, and according to Laz's reports he seems to be pretty clueless and immature for a 33 year old man who was a former pro cyclist, 5 years in the Royal Signals and the manager of a million pound company.

They didn't even plan the route apparently. Too busy behaving like gap-year pillocks it seems.

Update to Ulist from Laz:

(id prefer to phone these reports

but i have neither cans nor string)

day three and there's still mud in these waters

still many questions

answers are elusive

rob continues to run

left foot

right foot

left foot

right

feet in the day

feet in the night

my perspective on rob continues to change

when im ahead of him i clearly see his face

but when im behind him all i see is his back

his quest for the record hangs in the air

he is definitely a runner

how terribly strange to be anything at all

Hold on. His name is Rob? ROB???

He is passionate about the truth after all!

Marvellous