I think there are some questions about clemson's course, a lot of davidson's guys ran HUGE pr's- we'll see how good they are later. I also doubt that hopkins beat fout straight up, fout made nats in the 10k, and is damn good. app ran a 4 miler with ohio state's team, not a lot can be said about that either. assuming uncg and davidson's times are completely legit, it still doesn't make a big difference in a small-ish meet, which socon is, the pack does. 25:54 for #5 isn't gonna win a 'ship. nothin's over till it's over.