2010 SoCon Cross Country

25:54 WILL win a ship if the first 4 are ahead of everyone else's number 2.

that Koech should be in UNCG's top 5 - he broke 25 in every 8k race last season. Idk if he was sick, injured, or dehydrated at elon. But he usually runs similar times to Thompson. Davidson can definitely give them a fight though. And I'm sure App will have a great showing as well.

It's still the SLO Con!

If what that dude says is true and Koech runs similar to Thompson, that would put him right at 24:50 for the Elon race. The new Kenyan and Katam could easily go 1-2, maybe 1,3 if you factor in Hopkins. Having two more guys ~24:50, should easily be top 8. Assuming Kemboi stays stagnant and "only" runs 25:13, that would probably put him around 15th at worst. I total that at 33 points. Lets see anyone top that.

"I also doubt that hopkins beat fout straight up"

??

Not sure what you're getting at here, I think that the best way to beat someone "straight up" is to beat them on the same day, on the same course, under the same conditions, in the same race...

Unless you were suggesting that Fout was just doing a progression or tempo which could be possible.

Predictions as follows:

1. Chelimo (UNCG 1)

2. Hopkins (Davidson 1)

3. Katam (UNCG 2)

4. Berry (Chat 1)

5. Thompson (UNCG 3)

6. App #1 (App 1)

7. Pagonis (Davidson 2)

8. Taylor (App 2)

9. Raby (App 3)

10. Koech (UNCG 4)

11. App #4 (App 4)

12. Weaver (Western 1)

13. Tupper (Davidson 3)

14. Nick Kelly (App 5)

15. Falotico (Davidson 4)

16. Kemboi (UNCG 5)

17. Lantz (Davidson 5)

App #1 and #4 are Soderman/Moen, assuming either of them come back this season. If they don't, obviously scratch them off. If either Soderman or Moen do not come back and both aren't at 100% App will get third. Even if they do come back, the scores are below.

Team Scores:

1. UNCG 35

2. App 48

3. Davidson 54

What about Lee Gilmer and Wilkerson Given? Don't think they should be left out of the top 17...

Also, who says that Moen and Soderman are even back this season...seems rather arbitrary. And doubtful that Pagonis gets 7th - placed top 10 last year and looks much improved from a year ago. Also doubt that Koech places in 10th considering he just dropped a 26-mid and didn't race track at all last year.

Just things to consider, but I think that more has to be seen before predictions can be considered legitimate.

thats exactly what I was implying, ian tupper goes from running 26:15 and 25:44 last year to running 24:49? I don't buy it.

and yes, if uncg puts 4 in front of the next teams 2 it is most likely a win, but I don't think it's gonna go down like that.

and I'm not gonna spot koech anything because of his spotty injury history

At this point we have no idea whether Moen and Soderman will return. I personally think they will knowing apps history of how seriously they take conference. If not though, which is a good possibility as well, my predictions will be altered. I'd say if neither race at Paul Short, cursio will redshirt them.

Koech will not be a factor. 26:30 is pretty bad. No way he ever breaks 25 this year. He will be lucky to be top 20 at socon. Greensboro will have to find somebody else to step up if they want to win.

well, then you could've just said it. sounded to me you were implying some form of foul play haha...

Unfortunately for UNCG it looks like it'll be a good day for koech if he gets in the top 20 at the Socon meet, especially since he was runner up last year

Any teams run this weekend?

I would hope so, taking two days off on the weekends is for high schoolers.

Anyone have any predictions for Paul Short this weekend?

I say Greensboro puts 3 ahead of App 1. Could be big. Any info on if Soderman is running this year?

News shows that ( http://www.paulshortxcrun.com/PaulShort/PSViewWts.php?list=Team&sid=0&neventid=3&nevent=%20Paul%20Short-Men ) Soderman is not racing at Paul Short. I have also heard he ruptured his lower calf muscle this summer and is now just starting to tune things up. He looks doubtful for the season.

It'll be tough to up-end UNCG. Appalachian does have some guys who can flat out race though. I hope my baby can do it! smooches

Looks like Moen is back, good for him.

Socon is one month away. ITS CRUNCH TIME BOYS!!!!!

Damn,Soderman ruptured his calf muscle?! That's insane. Never wanna see anyone get hurt but damn that is a for real injury. I wonder if he will even be back for indoor?

The conference course is flat, fast and somewhat narrow. I'm thinking the 'endurance' distance running will be at a disadvantage. Look to the Mid-d (800m-5k) boys to step it up and pull some upsets. Moen, Taylor, Gilmer and Thompson (depending on if he's got it together yet) will do very well. Getting out early and having a massive kick will be the key to the vicory.