"As someone who uses Signal every day, I need to explain how totally committed to being an absolute dumb*** multiple people had to be in order for this security leak to happen. Okay, so in Signal if you want to talk to multiple people you have to create a group and give it a name, for example "JD Vance Humps His Couch." You then add people from your contacts to the group. If you are a competent user of Signal, you can then restrict the permissions so that only designated admins can add people. If you are an absolute dipshiz whose only job qualification is pwning the libs on Twitter, you would create a group about war plans and not know about or activate this functionality. If you are in a group and are allowed to add members, either because you are an admin or because the admin was raised on lead paint milkshakes, you then must do the following to add someone: Click on "JD Vance Humps His Couch" Scroll down to "Add Members." Select one or more people from your phone's contact list. Click "Update" Confirm that yes, you want to add that member. This is impossible to do accidentally. Then, once you have gone through the multi-step process of adding a member, an announcement appears on the screen for literally everyone in the group to see: "JD Vance Has Added Chairry to the Group." This sentence is a line in a single-stream text thread and if anyone is reading their messages they cannot miss it. (If they are not reading their messages, one might wonder why they have been included on the chat to begin with.) At this point, anyone can say in the chat or privately, Hey JD, why are you adding the bedroom-eyed plush chair from Pee-Wee's Playhouse to our chat about your upholstery problem? Yet nobody in the war bro chat said a thing about the new member added to the group. One other thing: Signal is supposedly a secure chat platform, but it is only as secure as whatever else people are doing on their phones. For example, if you send someone a Signal message asking about how to best protect your sensitive man parts against the sharp springs inside the voluptuous crack of your La-Z-Boy, you will later see ads in your browser for La-Z-Boy lube because your browser is spying on the things you do on your phone, even if the tech bros say they are not. So even if the war bro chat were not full of hires from an affirmative action program for white fascist sycophants who graduated in the top 99% of their class, and they actually practiced basic common sense and literacy in maintaining their war bro chat, it would still be an insecure way of discussing matters of national security."
Sure, but, has anyone accused any of these people of being anything but idiots?
I mean, not counting being drunk wife-beaters and pathological liars with crippling childhood insecurity requiring constant reassuring praise....
This wasn't "accidentally," this was intentionally leaking the internal thinking behind the strikes with plausible deniability. These aren't Democrats, this was meant to seen by foreign leaders of other countries, because we're getting awfully close to a regional war in the Middle East, if not World War III. Oh, the "leaked" internal discussions align perfectly with what they're public messaging.
Apparently, one of the guys on the chat, United States special envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, was in Moscow on his personal phone during this group chat.
"As someone who uses Signal every day, I need to explain how totally committed to being an absolute dumb*** multiple people had to be in order for this security leak to happen. Okay, so in Signal if you want to talk to multiple people you have to create a group and give it a name, for example "JD Vance Humps His Couch." You then add people from your contacts to the group. If you are a competent user of Signal, you can then restrict the permissions so that only designated admins can add people. If you are an absolute dipshiz whose only job qualification is pwning the libs on Twitter, you would create a group about war plans and not know about or activate this functionality. If you are in a group and are allowed to add members, either because you are an admin or because the admin was raised on lead paint milkshakes, you then must do the following to add someone: Click on "JD Vance Humps His Couch" Scroll down to "Add Members." Select one or more people from your phone's contact list. Click "Update" Confirm that yes, you want to add that member. This is impossible to do accidentally. Then, once you have gone through the multi-step process of adding a member, an announcement appears on the screen for literally everyone in the group to see: "JD Vance Has Added Chairry to the Group." This sentence is a line in a single-stream text thread and if anyone is reading their messages they cannot miss it. (If they are not reading their messages, one might wonder why they have been included on the chat to begin with.) At this point, anyone can say in the chat or privately, Hey JD, why are you adding the bedroom-eyed plush chair from Pee-Wee's Playhouse to our chat about your upholstery problem? Yet nobody in the war bro chat said a thing about the new member added to the group. One other thing: Signal is supposedly a secure chat platform, but it is only as secure as whatever else people are doing on their phones. For example, if you send someone a Signal message asking about how to best protect your sensitive man parts against the sharp springs inside the voluptuous crack of your La-Z-Boy, you will later see ads in your browser for La-Z-Boy lube because your browser is spying on the things you do on your phone, even if the tech bros say they are not. So even if the war bro chat were not full of hires from an affirmative action program for white fascist sycophants who graduated in the top 99% of their class, and they actually practiced basic common sense and literacy in maintaining their war bro chat, it would still be an insecure way of discussing matters of national security."
"As someone who uses Signal every day, I need to explain how totally committed to being an absolute dumb*** multiple people had to be in order for this security leak to happen. Okay, so in Signal if you want to talk to multiple people you have to create a group and give it a name, for example "JD Vance Humps His Couch." You then add people from your contacts to the group. If you are a competent user of Signal, you can then restrict the permissions so that only designated admins can add people. If you are an absolute dipshiz whose only job qualification is pwning the libs on Twitter, you would create a group about war plans and not know about or activate this functionality. If you are in a group and are allowed to add members, either because you are an admin or because the admin was raised on lead paint milkshakes, you then must do the following to add someone: Click on "JD Vance Humps His Couch" Scroll down to "Add Members." Select one or more people from your phone's contact list. Click "Update" Confirm that yes, you want to add that member. This is impossible to do accidentally. Then, once you have gone through the multi-step process of adding a member, an announcement appears on the screen for literally everyone in the group to see: "JD Vance Has Added Chairry to the Group." This sentence is a line in a single-stream text thread and if anyone is reading their messages they cannot miss it. (If they are not reading their messages, one might wonder why they have been included on the chat to begin with.) At this point, anyone can say in the chat or privately, Hey JD, why are you adding the bedroom-eyed plush chair from Pee-Wee's Playhouse to our chat about your upholstery problem? Yet nobody in the war bro chat said a thing about the new member added to the group. One other thing: Signal is supposedly a secure chat platform, but it is only as secure as whatever else people are doing on their phones. For example, if you send someone a Signal message asking about how to best protect your sensitive man parts against the sharp springs inside the voluptuous crack of your La-Z-Boy, you will later see ads in your browser for La-Z-Boy lube because your browser is spying on the things you do on your phone, even if the tech bros say they are not. So even if the war bro chat were not full of hires from an affirmative action program for white fascist sycophants who graduated in the top 99% of their class, and they actually practiced basic common sense and literacy in maintaining their war bro chat, it would still be an insecure way of discussing matters of national security."
Hi quality post. Good stuff.
It is amazing to listen to these goofs and their helpers hit the media with completely ridiculous gaslighting to whisk away their own incompetence in the minds and attention of gullible Americans.
We should view this Signal Chat Gate as simply the tip of the iceberg. The small part that was mistakenly made visible to us through incompetence. All of them use signal and none of them are following SCIF rules whatsoever. And this is but a small portion of the corruption and incompetence that is likely going on behind the scenes.
When you have a leader with criminal immunity that never gave a damn about rules, laws and procedures what did you expect from his staff?
Interesting, I have zero experience with Signals, and clearly there are 2 issues - how did this journalist number get added to the group and why is Signals used. From what I heard yesterday Signals is still allowed by the Government to be used - one might wonder how that can be. But, from what you say, whoever added the journalist had him in their contacts and I am wondering who among those in the group would have. Should be easy to see though. And what name he appears on their contact list as. Waltz is saying 1) He built the group and 2) Goldberg is not on his phone. Those 2 seem at odds. It seems more likely that Waltz (maybe stupidly) delegated building the group to someone on his staff and they - maybe intentionally - got Goldbergs name in the group - maybe disguised. This smells like stuff from 8 years ago where conversations with foreign leaders were leaked. But, like I say, they should be able to figure it out and hopefully whoever did it loses his job at a minimum.
Why would the US government not have a specially-designed app or messaging platform with appropriate security/encryption that only approved government officials have access to?
Why would the US government not have a specially-designed app or messaging platform with appropriate security/encryption that only approved government officials have access to?
they do have such a thing.
but it's very clunky to use and records everything.
no one wants to use a clunky platform, and often officials don't want an official record of what they say preserved. Yes, they are required to preserve their comms but if they don't it's just a slap on the wrist.
Interesting, I have zero experience with Signals, and clearly there are 2 issues - how did this journalist number get added to the group and why is Signals used. From what I heard yesterday Signals is still allowed by the Government to be used - one might wonder how that can be. But, from what you say, whoever added the journalist had him in their contacts and I am wondering who among those in the group would have. Should be easy to see though. And what name he appears on their contact list as. Waltz is saying 1) He built the group and 2) Goldberg is not on his phone. Those 2 seem at odds. It seems more likely that Waltz (maybe stupidly) delegated building the group to someone on his staff and they - maybe intentionally - got Goldbergs name in the group - maybe disguised. This smells like stuff from 8 years ago where conversations with foreign leaders were leaked. But, like I say, they should be able to figure it out and hopefully whoever did it loses his job at a minimum.
apparently goldberg's initials were the same as someone who was supposed to be in the group and that might have led to him being cc'd.
we can't believe a word waltz says tho - trumpists are taught to lie about everything.
Interesting, I have zero experience with Signals, and clearly there are 2 issues - how did this journalist number get added to the group and why is Signals used. From what I heard yesterday Signals is still allowed by the Government to be used - one might wonder how that can be. But, from what you say, whoever added the journalist had him in their contacts and I am wondering who among those in the group would have. Should be easy to see though. And what name he appears on their contact list as. Waltz is saying 1) He built the group and 2) Goldberg is not on his phone. Those 2 seem at odds. It seems more likely that Waltz (maybe stupidly) delegated building the group to someone on his staff and they - maybe intentionally - got Goldbergs name in the group - maybe disguised. This smells like stuff from 8 years ago where conversations with foreign leaders were leaked. But, like I say, they should be able to figure it out and hopefully whoever did it loses his job at a minimum.
apparently goldberg's initials were the same as someone who was supposed to be in the group and that might have led to him being cc'd.
we can't believe a word waltz says tho - trumpists are taught to lie about everything.
and immediately you show partisanship....of course noone in previous administration ever lied....no not ever!!
Breaking right now, the Atlantic has released most of the posts. Very sensitive material and the White House countering that's “not classified”. Everyone in that group should be immediately fired and the administration held responsible.
Breaking right now, the Atlantic has released most of the posts. Very sensitive material and the White House countering that's “not classified”. Everyone in that group should be immediately fired and the administration held responsible.
The messages confirm everything that the original article claimed, including the specific timing and weapons used in an airstrike that hadn’t happened yet.
Waltz also confirms in the chat that there are other Signal chats.
When Hilary Clinton eroneously sent that email didn't they call for her resignation
It wasn't that Hillary erroneously sent an email. She improperly used a private, unsecured server to transact govt business. You might recall that the DOJ (then under Obama) launched a criminal investigation as a result. The investigation was announced less than two weeks before the 2016 election, resulting in a drop in Hillary's favorability rating and may have been enough to impact the result of that close election.
Btw, Trump didn't call for Hillary's resignation; he called for her to go to prison. The chant "lock her up" was a staple of Trump's 2016 campaign appearances. But there will be no DOJ investigation of the Signal debacle because dictators shield their minions from accountability and use the law to punish opponents.
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