I know many common sense democrats who voted for Trump because Kamala / national Dems went insane. Taxpayer funded gender mutilation surgeries for illegal immigrant prisoners? Men in women’s sports? A completely porous border?
EVEN IF one were to accept that horrendous ability to weigh pros and cons (which clearly MANY suffer from), it still would do NO-THING to excuse or explain his current approval rating.
Roughly 40% of America is (at least) roughly OK with Trump the authoritarian.
Since many of us Americans may have gotten a bit used to it, I think about what the average, fairly intelligent, fairly well-educated, not anti-American, foreigner thinks about America right now?
As in, "Wait, 40%+ of the citizens of the 'Shining city on a hill' are still OK with the guy who's been in lock-step with the authoritarian playbook since January ??? WTF?"
"Hmmph, I guess those Yankees WERE f** of sh** all this time."
You know Trump is a very public figure so you are protected. But if Trump was average citizen, you are committing libel. There is no evidence of Trump committing child rape. If there is please present here so you don't get hauled away in handcuffs.
If an adult man has sex with a 16 year old prostitute, would you agree that is child rape?
If an adult man has sex with a 16 year old prostitute, would you agree that is child rape?
Typically "child" is defined as between infancy and puberty. I would classify it as statutory rape. And the adult should have to suffer severe consequences. Especially if he or she knew the exact age of the victim.
What type of evidence would you be looking for to convict if you were on the jury?
If Trump harmed children sexually, I would want him put away forever. I want to see your proof first. Not hearsay.
This letter is a big nothing.
Doesn't look like anything but a few squiggly lines.
What they both like could be Diet Coke.
You have a high tolerance for sleaze, Travis. That Trump-Epstein letter is creepy as you can get. Even if Epsteins wasn't committing sex crimes at the time, that letter would still be fvcking creepy. That's like a letter Puffer Did would write to O.J. Simpson or something. Creep out. People who talk in code are always up to something creepy. Jesus Christ. I just read it again, and I'm ready to wretch into a bowl of puke over here.
Typically "child" is defined as between infancy and puberty. I would classify it as statutory rape. And the adult should have to suffer severe consequences. Especially if he or she knew the exact age of the victim.
What type of evidence would you be looking for to convict if you were on the jury?
WARNING, WARNING, WARNING !!!ATTEMPTING TO ENGAGE A FAKE OR ACTUAL TRUMPER IN AN ACTUAL ADULT CONVERSATION !!!
Typically "child" is defined as between infancy and puberty. I would classify it as statutory rape. And the adult should have to suffer severe consequences. Especially if he or she knew the exact age of the victim.
What type of evidence would you be looking for to convict if you were on the jury?
WARNING, WARNING, WARNING !!!ATTEMPTING TO ENGAGE A FAKE OR ACTUAL TRUMPER IN AN ACTUAL ADULT CONVERSATION !!!
(it never turns out well)
Lolz
guilty
The moment I clicked post… I said WTF are you doing?
So I am a pretty conservative person - not a radical - and you are telling a liberal not to engage with me - that same liberal has been consumed with Trump derangement syndrome for the last 10 years - and not just a mild case - but a severe case where that person is on here 24/7 every day and just obsessing over Trump.
Doesn't look like anything but a few squiggly lines.
What they both like could be Diet Coke.
You have a high tolerance for sleaze, Travis. That Trump-Epstein letter is creepy as you can get. Even if Epsteins wasn't committing sex crimes at the time, that letter would still be fvcking creepy. That's like a letter Puffer Did would write to O.J. Simpson or something. Creep out. People who talk in code are always up to something creepy. Jesus Christ. I just read it again, and I'm ready to wretch into a bowl of puke over here.
I highly recommend reading some of the other birthday wishes for Epstein. They make Trump sound tame.
They Even have pictures drawn of Ma A Lago and massages taking place. And of course, more stick drawings of girls.
All proving that they all had a wink, wink acceptance of all that Epstein was doing.
But we are supposed to believe Trump himself was best friends but didn’t know.
What type of evidence would you be looking for to convict if you were on the jury?
Photos/videos of the crime taking place
Victim testimony with corroborating witnesses
Audio of Trump talking about the rape(s)
The truth is you will refuse to believe Trump ever did anything wrong in any situation. By this I mean even clear facts such as appointing fake electors, coercion of public officials, quid pro quo calls, bathroom files, pardoning cop beaters, lifting US sanctions / tariffs for personal profit, selling pardons, giving presidential access to "investors", etc, etc.
That said, in court cases there is almost never video. In this case there IS corroberating witness testimony, and there are multiple instances of him bragging about sexual deviation. This includes entering dressing rooms of underage girls while they were undressed (multiple times), "grab 'em" comment, payoffs to women whom he had affairs, complimenting Epstein on liking young girls, etc, etc.
But go ahead and worship your orange idol instead of seeing the obvious mountain of evidence that he is a sleazebag.
Trumps defenders are arguing two things at once. 1. That the letter isnt incriminating 2. That the letter is fake.
I mean, you have to be deliberately naive to not see anything unseemly about the letter/drawing Trump sent to a pedophile. But if you do believe it is real and innocuous, then why would Trump be so desperate to call it fake? Clearly, HE doesn't think it is innocuous.
If you think it is fake, then what about all the other letters? Why isnt anyone else claiming their letters were faked? And who, exactly, faked it? You demand video evidence of molestation taking place before you'll believe it, but you'll accept Trump's claims that this was faked by "the deep state" based on no evidence whatsoever.
Morning guys, hope everyone's day is filled with wonderful secrets.
By the way, quick question for Trumpers.
Things are moving fast on this story it seems, but are you still on the 'That's forged, and it's definitely not Trump's signature' bus or have you hopped on the 'There's nothing pedoey about it, it's just an innocent birthday card to a friend who he doesn't really know that well'? express?
Trumps defenders are arguing two things at once. 1. That the letter isnt incriminating 2. That the letter is fake.
I mean, you have to be deliberately naive to not see anything unseemly about the letter/drawing Trump sent to a pedophile. But if you do believe it is real and innocuous, then why would Trump be so desperate to call it fake? Clearly, HE doesn't think it is innocuous.
If you think it is fake, then what about all the other letters? Why isnt anyone else claiming their letters were faked? And who, exactly, faked it? You demand video evidence of molestation taking place before you'll believe it, but you'll accept Trump's claims that this was faked by "the deep state" based on no evidence whatsoever.
Joe Biden/Kamala et. al. would have done anything to derail Trump's presidential hopes and get Kamala elected. They were not able to do that. So this is a NOTHINGBURGER.
You know Trump is a very public figure so you are protected. But if Trump was average citizen, you are committing libel. There is no evidence of Trump committing child rape. If there is please present here so you don't get hauled away in handcuffs.
If an adult man has sex with a 16 year old prostitute, would you agree that is child rape?
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