Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

agip wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Some charges will be dropped upon successful cooperation.

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huh? That's not how it works

all manafort gets is a note from teh prosecutors to the judge, saying 'hey, paulie has been very helpful in getting trumpers arrested. Maybe you want to go easy on his sentence?'

Take it up with CNN. That's what they are reporting today.

"Prosecutor Andrew Weissmann told the judge Manafort's plea agreement is a "cooperation agreement," and other charges will be dropped at sentencing at "or at the agreement of successful cooperation."

agip wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Some charges will be dropped upon successful cooperation.

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huh? That's not how it works

all manafort gets is a note from teh prosecutors to the judge, saying 'hey, paulie has been very helpful in getting trumpers arrested. Maybe you want to go easy on his sentence?'

Here is how I understand it. Correct me if I'm wrong:

When there is a plea agreement, the judge has to accept that plea. So today, the judge accepted the plea laid out in the agreement. When it comes time for sentencing, the judge will verify that both sides have kept to the agreement. As long as that happens, you can expect the judge to abide by the agreement and Manafort will get sentenced according to the guidelines set forth today.

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

huh? That's not how it works

all manafort gets is a note from teh prosecutors to the judge, saying 'hey, paulie has been very helpful in getting trumpers arrested. Maybe you want to go easy on his sentence?'

Here is how I understand it. Correct me if I'm wrong:

When there is a plea agreement, the judge has to accept that plea. So today, the judge accepted the plea laid out in the agreement. When it comes time for sentencing, the judge will verify that both sides have kept to the agreement. As long as that happens, you can expect the judge to abide by the agreement and Manafort will get sentenced according to the guidelines set forth today.

I believe that is correct and would be inline with what CNN has reported today.

Flagpole wrote:

agip wrote:

huh? That's not how it works

all manafort gets is a note from teh prosecutors to the judge, saying 'hey, paulie has been very helpful in getting trumpers arrested. Maybe you want to go easy on his sentence?'

Take it up with CNN. That's what they are reporting today.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/politics/paul-manafort-guilty-plea/index.html

"Prosecutor Andrew Weissmann told the judge Manafort's plea agreement is a "cooperation agreement," and other charges will be dropped at sentencing at "or at the agreement of successful cooperation."

CNN, that's where you get your information from? LOL at Idiotpole, what a sad case for all human beings.

Trump's swamp overfloweth.

Now Nikki Haley, who has been busy gutting ambassadorships to save money, is outed as a member of the Trump's Putrid Swamp. Nikki gets:

-- $52,700 for new curtains for security and "entertainment" purposes

-- $58,000 a month to rent a penthouse apartment in NYC

Both of the above paid for by taxpayers.

Now Nikki has whined and cried that the curtains and apartment were approved before Trump took office, BUT so were the staff she has gleefully fired since she took her position. So, if it is so easy to fire staff, it should have been very easy to cut costs and nix the curtain expense, and demand a cheaper apartment. Did Nikki do those things? No, she only fired existing staff.

Golicatha wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Take it up with CNN. That's what they are reporting today.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/politics/paul-manafort-guilty-plea/index.html

"Prosecutor Andrew Weissmann told the judge Manafort's plea agreement is a "cooperation agreement," and other charges will be dropped at sentencing at "or at the agreement of successful cooperation."

CNN, that's where you get your information from? LOL at Idiotpole, what a sad case for all human beings.

They are attributing a direct quote from the Prosecutor. This is not an opinion piece; just a flat news piece.

I get information from all sorts of places as I have said many times.

ABC has a similar report. I'm sure you don't believe them either.

I'm sure your favorite Fox News is your source. Ok. They won't come out and say what the others do, but they refer to Politico and let them say it. Deal (according to Politico to which Fox News referred, says there's a cap on time in jail of 10 years and that he can serve terms concurrently.

Don't be closed off to good journalism. Fox News (other than Shep Smith and Chris Wallace and once in a great while Hume and Cavuto) is not good journalism.

Manafort has flipped! BOOM (the sound of broomsticks breaking the sound barrier crashing to earth – NO witches). The entire Trump family now in jeopardy. No pardon for Paul from Trump. No nice things to say about Mansfort by Rudy. Nightmares at the White House will be unending.

— John Dean (@JohnWDean) September 14, 2018

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnWDean/status/1040637716939988997

Trollminator wrote:

L L wrote:

I'm sure Trump made a deal with Manafort in advance - shut up and I will pardon you.

So this is in Trump's own interest.

Manfort cooperating with Mueller just means, ok I am guilty, give me a sentence.

It's not giving dirt.

I think when you are right there facing that prospect of being behind bars for the rest of your life you will not take chances. He has no guarantee that Trump will pardon him, his word means nothing. The only guarantee can come from Mueller, so he will give up what he has.

You may be forgetting about Putin's modus operandi. Mueller can't protect Manafort from Putin.

Flagpole is probably a cnn correspondent. All he does is follow the fake news cycle when he gives his opinion. He failed to mention that Manaforts plea has nothing to do with President Trump but only has to do with his own (Manafort’s) decisions.

Still though, Manafort should just wait to be pardoned by Trump and shut up. This is a gotcha investigation from a very bias/animus FBI. What’s funny is that they pretended to have a legitimate investigation to Hilary. That’s how you know this whole thing is a sham.

RIP Trump Family Mafia wrote:

Manafort has flipped! BOOM (the sound of broomsticks breaking the sound barrier crashing to earth – NO witches). The entire Trump family now in jeopardy. No pardon for Paul from Trump. No nice things to say about Mansfort by Rudy. Nightmares at the White House will be unending.

— John Dean (@JohnWDean) September 14, 2018

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnWDean/status/1040637716939988997

Trump praised Manafort for not being a RAT like John Dean.

Without Dean, we might have never known the level of criminality in the Nixon administration. No wonder Trump doesn't like him.

Curtain for Swamp-Creature, Nikki wrote:

Trump's swamp overfloweth.

Now Nikki Haley, who has been busy gutting ambassadorships to save money, is outed as a member of the Trump's Putrid Swamp. Nikki gets:

-- $52,700 for new curtains for security and "entertainment" purposes

-- $58,000 a month to rent a penthouse apartment in NYC

Both of the above paid for by taxpayers.

Now Nikki has whined and cried that the curtains and apartment were approved before Trump took office, BUT so were the staff she has gleefully fired since she took her position. So, if it is so easy to fire staff, it should have been very easy to cut costs and nix the curtain expense, and demand a cheaper apartment. Did Nikki do those things? No, she only fired existing staff.

for what it's worth, the times admits it made a mistake in the reporting of the story

not sure of the details

There's something else wrote:

You may be forgetting about Putin's modus operandi. Mueller can't protect Manafort from Putin.

He might be able to provide good protection. The witness protection program is a real thing. It's not just in the movies.

Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:

Flagpole is probably a cnn correspondent. All he does is follow the fake news cycle when he gives his opinion. He failed to mention that Manaforts plea has nothing to do with President Trump but only has to do with his own (Manafort’s) decisions.

Still though, Manafort should just wait to be pardoned by Trump and shut up. This is a gotcha investigation from a very bias/animus FBI. What’s funny is that they pretended to have a legitimate investigation to Hilary. That’s how you know this whole thing is a sham.

Wow dude, you are so biased.

Here's what I wrote in this thread "Will be interesting to see what the cooperation entails."

I didn't insinuate that the cooperation had to do with Trump or didn't have to do with Trump.

Why would I say this plea has nothing to do with Trump? We don't know one way or the other if it does or not, which is why I haven't said anything about it.

Do you read often? Do you take in and comprehend what you read? Some people have Adult ADHD. There is medication for that if you have that.

The Letsrun crowd other than me isn't doing a very good job today. I hope you all find a way to step up your game.

Curtain for Swamp-Creature, Nikki wrote:

Trump's swamp overfloweth.

Now Nikki Haley, who has been busy gutting ambassadorships to save money, is outed as a member of the Trump's Putrid Swamp. Nikki gets:

-- $52,700 for new curtains for security and "entertainment" purposes

-- $58,000 a month to rent a penthouse apartment in NYC

Both of the above paid for by taxpayers.

Now Nikki has whined and cried that the curtains and apartment were approved before Trump took office, BUT so were the staff she has gleefully fired since she took her position. So, if it is so easy to fire staff, it should have been very easy to cut costs and nix the curtain expense, and demand a cheaper apartment. Did Nikki do those things? No, she only fired existing staff.

It does look bad, but I need to know more before I consider this to be a real scandal.

For instance, did previous UN Ambassadors get similar benefits?

I imagine that it's common to fire a lot of staff when a new UN Ambassador takes the post.

Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:

Flagpole is probably a cnn correspondent. All he does is follow the fake news cycle when he gives his opinion. He failed to mention that Manaforts plea has nothing to do with President Trump but only has to do with his own (Manafort’s) decisions.

Still though, Manafort should just wait to be pardoned by Trump and shut up. This is a gotcha investigation from a very bias/animus FBI. What’s funny is that they pretended to have a legitimate investigation to Hilary. That’s how you know this whole thing is a sham.

BINGO! Flagpole is not smart enough to understand what you posted. Yes, it is a sham and Donald Trump is going nowhere. Flagpole has got some serious issues.

Keyword, imagine. That's his way of saying that he doesn't know what he's talking about. What a waste of a post.

There is absolutely no mistake in my comment. Haley is the only person who has occupied that $58k apartment. As fast as she was firing people to save money, she could have terminated the curtains and demanded a cheaper apartment. She chose not to make any changes to what is a personal benefit for her.

Q For instance, did previous UN Ambassadors get similar benefits?

A The only person to ever use that apartment is Halley. Previous people have stayed at a hotel (the Walsdorf Astoria). Haley had the power to change the set but chose not to, all the while cutting cost by eliminating staff.

dragonslayer wrote:

Keyword, imagine. That's MY way of saying that I don't know what I AM talking about. I AM a waste of a post.

Keyword, you are an idiot.