Godwin wrote:
I've read the whole thread and it's my conclusion that Robert Young is a bit like Hitler. Hopefully he can't be stopped before this whole thing turns into a big thing.
Isn't that one of the most basic rules of the internet - once Hitler is invoked, the thread/discussion has officially jumped the shark and should be declared dead. Good work.
calmdown wrote:
theohiostate wrote:Registered a handle??
Doug Brandt. What's yours, hero??
Calm down broseph, don't let the LRC mob drag you in. Stay on point and ignore the nattering and mewling from the occasional off meds depressed hack.
Too late they already have, he's had his plonker well and truly pulled.
Doug, theohiostate is your handle which you registered, Doug Brandt is your name. To give out you name is not a real smart thing to do.
Are your asking me if I believe Hilary will defeat Trump? Yes, right now, I think she will. Will it matter to me? For most things for me, to be honest, Congress is more important.
Godwin wrote:
I've read the whole thread and it's my conclusion that Robert Young is a bit like Hitler. Hopefully he can't be stopped before this whole thing turns into a big thing.
I heard that Hitler had two arms, two legs and some really stupid ideas. I guess that means you and Hitler are more alike than not.
Would you guys please take your political discussion somewhere else? It's completely irrelevant to this thread and no one else wants to see it here.
dougs one of us now
welcome bro
Deregulation wrote:
Are your asking me if I believe Hilary will defeat Trump? Yes, right now, I think she will. Will it matter to me? For most things for me, to be honest, Congress is more important.
Well, I can at least get a partial glimpse to your success - you are informed and not delusional.
Trump can't win but Hillary could lose - but it's highly unlikely.
Since we're talking numbers and stats - here's a fun one for you:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-swing-the-election/You'll probably continue your Obama era success with Hillary so you got that going for you, which is nice.
internetrules wrote:
Isn't that one of the most basic rules of the internet - once Hitler is invoked, the thread/discussion has officially jumped the shark and should be declared dead. Good work.
Ain't you the bloke who posted the same thing on Page 186 of the Mike Rossi thread?
DipStick wrote:
Would you guys please take your political discussion somewhere else? It's completely irrelevant to this thread and no one else wants to see it here.
You sound like a sad Rubio supporter.
Never mind the bollocks. wrote:
internetrules wrote:Isn't that one of the most basic rules of the internet - once Hitler is invoked, the thread/discussion has officially jumped the shark and should be declared dead. Good work.
Ain't you the bloke who posted the same thing on Page 186 of the Mike Rossi thread?
Hey, rules are rules, I didn't make them up, I'm just here to cite violations.
DipStick wrote:
Would you guys please take your political discussion somewhere else? It's completely irrelevant to this thread and no one else wants to see it here.
So you're cool with all the Hitler talk though, right?
Just want to make sure we keep DipStick happy.
As a disclaimer I'm very suspicious about RY's times in the western USA. However, here are a a few points in support of RY:
Regarding the Asher incident, Is it possible that the crew simply can't remember the events or which night they occurred? I would imagine that the days and nights simply run into each other on something like this.
I know Rob's route is longer than needed, what are the chances that he thought a ride here and there wouldn't matter as long as he ran the required miles. This obviously is a disqualification though.
His pace and miles per day has obviously slowed but wouldn't we expect that at this point in the run? Of course that also lined up perfectly with this thread, but then again I don't run well when stressed either.
internetrules wrote:
Never mind the bollocks. wrote:Ain't you the bloke who posted the same thing on Page 186 of the Mike Rossi thread?
Hey, rules are rules, I didn't make them up, I'm just here to cite violations.
Fair enough, I'll pass it on to the 12 Basement Trolls over at the Rossi thread.
I noticed the weight loss as well
Never mind the bollocks. wrote:
calmdown wrote:Calm down broseph, don't let the LRC mob drag you in. Stay on point and ignore the nattering and mewling from the occasional off meds depressed hack.
Too late they already have, he's had his plonker well and truly pulled.
Doug, theohiostate is your handle which you registered, Doug Brandt is your name. To give out you name is not a real smart thing to do.
At least Doug didn't use the kid in his moms basement line
About time for another thought or two from me as Rob supporters seem to be a bit thin on the ground here at the moment. I have a feeling this might be a bit long so apologies in advance, but if it is a problem maybe just read a sentence at a time and intersperse it with reading all the other comments attacking him. Alternatively just ignore it and move on.
The situation as I see it is this:
A guy decided to give the Transcon record a go and set off a few weeks ago. Some video was produced showing no runner by the RV and it all blew up, the immediate assumption being that he had gone all that way to sit in an RV and pretend he was doing it and in the meantime pull off the greatest endurance con in history (aside form Yiannis's first Spartathlon, oh no wait..) Since then everything has been scrutinised in depth with various oddities arising.
- Rob won't release his gps data - well as far as I know he hasn't claimed to have beaten the record yet, so not sure why that is a problem.
- But if he releases it at the end it might have been doctored - google is your friend. It doesn't take much to detect doctored Strava data and Tomtom even harder to fake. I'm sure there will be a queue of LRC members happy to oblige on the technical side there.
- But he has lied about stuff before so he must be lying now, like that bronze medal in triathlon in 2004. Oh someone's found something on a 2004 forum putting Rob in 3rd place in those championships - yeah but it's on a forum so you can't trust that (yes, someone actually said that)
- Well what about his PRs - no way he's done that. Well recently reported running 5:47 mile by a well respected figure, and that after running best part of 2000 miles (even if you exclude the hours sitting in a jacuzzi in the RV) So if he maintained that pace it would give him a sub 36minute 10k. Maybe a little less inconceivable that at some point in his past, maybe ten years ago, training for that distance he might have hit 5 minutes under that. I'm sure he can let us know, but maybe after finishing this thing.
- Yeah, but his claims for his first three marathons are unbelievable. Meaning I couldn't do that and no one I know could. But lets say 99.999% of people couldn't but the 0.001%, by some evolutionary hiccup, do have that capability. That would mean in the UK 600 people could. Maybe one of them went out and found they had an unusual capacity for running and recovery and decided to just keep going for the rest of the year covering 373 marathons and ultras in that time.
- Well if he made up all this stuff, he probably made up other stuff like being in the army. Let's check that. Oh, he was and he was in the triathlon team. Oh forget that.
- Look his charity page here says he raised £0. oh but this justgiving one says over £60,000. Better investigate the charity. Bound to be fake.
- I know let's send over some of our most respected (OK some of the younger LRC members are catching up here) running figures to catch him out. They arrive and report a change of perspective, noting that he is a genuinely nice guy (sorry, I know character references have no bearing on this, although character assassinations seemingly do) and that comparing him to Steve Warshawer. As predicted, comments about age and beards appeared though I hadn't guessed the smoking ones. They also say there are questions yet to answer, which means they are yet to be answered not that they can't.
- What about his other records, the one where he beat Dean Karnazes's longest distance without sleep? All fake. So I and others crop up to vouch for that and posted my strava link for the 60 miles I ran with him through the night to 350 miles when I handed over to Kev (first and only time I've met him but feeling some kind of kinship now!) for another 23. I missed the protocol about not revealing your identity on this forum so have been googled and then had my handle used to post false messages. Changed my handle, thought I had registered it but hadn't so had impersonators again. Registered new one but have still had someone using the new one. Isn't that the point of registering it? Ah well. Just ignore anything from arealpersson that doesn't say registered
- But he's a narcissist and just says he's doing it for the kids to impress people. Aren't we all a bit narcissistic though? I mean I've managed to mention my 17 day 52 mile-a-day challenge at least twice on here (make that three times) under the guise of it meaning I am able to believe what he is doing but really just because I want people to like me. I even managed to exaggerate the amount of money I raised for charidee by accidentally converting pounds to dollars twice. Surprised I wasn't picked up on that but, sadly this isn't all about me. Funnily enough the comment that I remember most from my run was some 14 year old who said he was inspired following my strava feed and had started to train to run a marathon when he was 18. So at least I can convince myself I really was doing it for the kids. But isn't there even something a bit narcissistic about posting witty messages on a forum board anyway. Granted it's slightly diminshed by the fact that no one knows who you are but I'm sure I Like Running And Riding In RVs gets some sort of satisfaction knowing that their cutting sarcastic comments are getting Beavis and Butthead snorting across the land.
Anyway what all this boils down to is we won't know for sure if he has done this or not until he shows us the gps data at the end of the run( and please let's not have the watch swapping theories when that happens. Just remember this kicked off because there was no runner near the RV, not even his mate). So we are really spending a lot of time discussing this before there is much to discuss. If I have got my pacing right, this thread should have reached 300 pages by the time he gets to Time Square, factoring in a surge of interest toward the end. That's a lot of hours that would have all been out doing what we do best - running instead of cooking up conspiracy theories.
And by the way, those moon landing photos ARE fake. I blew them up on my computer and can see the joins.
Godwin's other law for letsrun : We don't have time for hobby joggers, ultras or race walkers, unless they cheat, then we have all kinds of time.
Never mind the bollocks. wrote:
internetrules wrote:Hey, rules are rules, I didn't make them up, I'm just here to cite violations.
Fair enough, I'll pass it on to the 12 Basement Trolls over at the Rossi thread.
Tell them you're from Mitch and Murray - they'll be expecting you.
Im in moms basement wrote:
Never mind the bollocks. wrote:Too late they already have, he's had his plonker well and truly pulled.
Doug, theohiostate is your handle which you registered, Doug Brandt is your name. To give out you name is not a real smart thing to do.
At least Doug didn't use the kid in his moms basement line
I think it's just accpeted as true now and no longer needs to be stated.
Born in the 856 wrote:
Markus wrote:60
That means Rob is still on record pace.
Not really. He record attempt is over for a long time. The Mojave incident, the RV driving alone in Kansas as seen by Asher Delmott, unexplained high speeds in his tracking data, I am sure somebody will send all this to the Guinness book of records as well. Is there a "Best Cheater" category?