Robert Young fakes run across America

113 wrote:

areaIpersson wrote:https://twitter.com/cherylkathleen/status/742896919949791232https://twitter.com/cherylkathleen/status/742896770397679616

Can anyone provide any context for these posts? What are they supposed to indicate?

These were copied from the ulist. They were sent from one of team geezer observers to someone else on the list who tweeted them and posted links. They are from today(6/14).

Here's what I'm looking at:

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Markus wrote:

What are today's numbers? wrote:

How many miles did Rob run today?

60

That means Rob is still on record pace.

were do they come from wrote:

theohiostate wrote:

I also agree with Laz: I wouldn't release any information to the lets run crowd either. After all the name calling and such: Let 'em stew.

As far as to whether or not Rob is telling the truth, how many people on this forum lie about their times? Is everyone who posts here running 14 and 15+ 5k times?

Idiot you're one of them you've even registered a handle.

Registered a handle??

Doug Brandt. What's yours, hero??

Born in the 856 wrote:

Markus wrote:

60

That means Rob is still on record pace.

Who cares? this will never be seen as legitimate. at best due to buffoonery and at worst fraud.

Born in the 856 wrote:

Markus wrote:

60

That means Rob is still on record pace.

Oh shit, where's the nearest rock I can crawl under.

Sorry Rob I never really doubted you.

If I could go back and delete all my old posts I would.

Where do I go to donate next weeks wages?

cadence wrote:

Who cares? this will never be seen as legitimate. at best due to buffoonery and at worst fraud.

You underestimate the low standards of Guinness, the cult following of the protagonist, and the book deal from Simon & Schuster.

theohiostate wrote:

Registered a handle??

Doug Brandt. What's yours, hero??

Doug Brandt?

theohiostate wrote:

were do they come from wrote:

Idiot you're one of them you've even registered a handle.

Registered a handle??

Doug Brandt. What's yours, hero??

That's it, you're getting in to LR spirit now, you know, "name calling and such", good man.

Yeah, you know, theohiostate, FMD you're the one that's using it and who registered it.

This is all adding up with Asher's account, the video in Emporium and RY team's explanation for the carwash. I'm putting a * by the points where I'm guessing what I believe to be the simplest explanation. Hopefully Asher can respond.

1) RY gets dropped off the back of the RV in Emporium according to his own team, apparently unable to keep up with the tracker moving at ~10 mph.

2) He walks past the CCTV after the RV passes, again according to his own team (can we get the FBI to look at this video please?). He calls them for help and they return back, which matches the tracker data.

3) The RV takes off eastbound after the rendezvous at ~10 mph towards Lebo. It maintains this speed until the encounter with Asher.

4) Asher drives past the RV head on and sees no runner. He turns around and drives past the RV from behind and films video #1 with no one outside the RV.

5) Asher stops east of the RV (still west of Fauna), films video #2 as the RV catches up with no apparent runner outside the RV. Asher approaches the RV moving at 'running speed' on foot from behind a house and causes confusion/fear in the RV*. Everything is still west of Fauna Rd here. The RV slows to see what the heck is the lone strobe light trailing them. Someone gets out, freaks, and they speed off (hence the slower pace at the 1:50 check in. Asher runs back to his car.

6) The RV drives ahead turns around in the road just east of Old Fauna as Asher runs back.

7) RY and gang realize the bunny woman surprised them at night and don't want to get busted.* Asher drives by and sees them outside the RV at this point. Asher takes screenshot from his phone of the live tracker. There is a tracker point in the kml file on line 1660, 1661 and screen shot from Asher's phone at exactly the same spot at 2:10 AM. If RY is here at that intersection, he got here at slowest from the rendezvous in Emporium where the RV turned back east at line 1662 by traveling 16.1 mi at 6:40 pace. I'd love to hear another explanation.

Asher, the tracker data shows the rendezvous point in Emporium during the back track was likely at the corner of Homewood and HWY 50.

8) RY walks for a bit in case a runner is showing up.* Asher drives ahead and hides for the final video. We can only guess his pace, but if he's indeed the guy walking in the CCTV video at 20 min/mile, the RV data from this time is reasonably close.

9) No one shows up to run with them and all clear is given. The tracker is really crazy here. It goes very slow for 12 minutes then picks back up to 10 mph cruising speed (the same speed we have 3 videos of with no runner in sight) past Garner Rd where Asher films video #3 again with no apparent runner.

IMO the videos and both accounts are absolutely damning to RY in this case if his own explanation for getting dropped in Emporium is true. Asher filmed the RV in a stretch where (by his RW interview) RY was supposedly right with it during that 16.1 mile stretch at ~6:40 pace (the first 15.3 mi in 6:15 pace heading to Fauna and 50), the same pace he was apparently dropped at an hour earlier. There's no other way he got there as he claimed he was in the RW interview other than running that fast if he met the RV at the point it turned back east after it backtracked to find him in Emporium.

Either the RV went back to Emporium and found RY after the emergency phone call, then IMMEDIATELY dropped him again such that Asher never saw him. And he subsequently ran past Asher (at surely a sub 6 pace) to get to the corner of Fauna and 50. OR he outran the RV significantly out of Emporium during that stretch such that Asher never saw him or captured him on video. Where was he if not inside the RV? The only explanations left to me are that the tracker is completely wrong (making the entire thing a sham), Asher somehow fabricated all of this, RY was running in a field to the intersection of 50 and Fauna, or he rode in the RV.

were do they come from wrote:

theohiostate wrote:

Registered a handle??

Doug Brandt. What's yours, hero??

That's it, you're getting in to LR spirit now, you know, "name calling and such", good man.

Yeah, you know, theohiostate, FMD you're the one that's using it and who registered it.

I didn't give you a registered handle. I gave you my real name.

Go ahead. It's not that hard.

Has RY DQd himself with the evidence in front of us and we didn't spot it?

He needs independent verification that he has run what he is claiming. This can be from the RV driver. He has shown us the log where someone physically signs their name next to his mileage.

In the desert according to his blog, he went off by himself. Who signed the log? If it was a crew member then they have already said that they weren't with him, so they lied. Surely if he had had company (another runner) it would have been mentioned in the blog. If no one signed this, then it wasn't independently verified?

Also, who signed the log on the first run? When he set off and then after two and a half hours called his crew to tell them he had begun? That can't have been a crew member either

theohiostate wrote:

were do they come from wrote:

Idiot you're one of them you've even registered a handle.

Registered a handle??

Doug Brandt. What's yours, hero??

Calm down broseph, don't let the LRC mob drag you in. Stay on point and ignore the nattering and mewling from the occasional off meds depressed hack.

What are today's numbers? wrote:

How many miles did Rob run today?

Markus wrote:

60

I had RW's tracker at 59 miles from the afternoon stop on Monday the 13th until today's (Tuesday the 14th) afternoon stop at N Friendship Rd, just west of Martinsville.

Since starting running again this afternoon from Friendhsip Rd sometime after 6:00 pm, CDT RY's tracker has covered another 19.75 miles as of now, 11:30 PM CDT.

KudzuRunner wrote:

For better or worse--and nobody wants to hear this--it's entirely consistent with reality that somebody as impulsive as Young could go out like gangbusters, hold it for a few weeks, and then slow. That's exactly what happened in the Bunion Derby. Young may have been blindsided by the weather in America, which, in June, ain't exactly the British Isles.

I'm just saying. Sometimes people DO start out too fast and then slow down. It's been known to happen to honest people.

The thread is long, but he's been nailed by photos early on. Poster 113 proved with timestamped photos from RY's social media that RY either ran unsupported for ~40 miles via highway or ~25 miles through a national forest/3000 foot mountain range in something like 4.5 hours (conservative estimates here) through 95 degree heat in the Mojave Desert. No explanation from RY.

He refuses to release any watch data, which would take minutes, but he will upload long videos, take interviews via facetime and upload dozens of screenshots of his watch data to 'prove' his integrity. We have a bunch of the tracker data from the RV that presumably was with him (his team since pulled it from the site), and it shows several long stretches of questionable runs: 10k's in sub 36, 1+ hrs at sub 6 pace, 2+ hours at sub 7, one marathon in sub 7, 55+ miles at 8:20 pace, etc. . No one's even combed the data from the Rockies too hard yet for runs at elevation. All of these runs were in the middle of the night prior to 24 hr monitoring. He's done little but walk and plod immediately after this thread went nuts. Eye witness accounts from the ultra guys since he went under surveillance were that he ran a few sub 6 miles. He had to stop for a minute or so after each one.

No one doubts he can run/walk day after day. He is being asked to prove he ran the distances/paces he is suddenly unable to remotely replicate since he's been watched 24 hrs a day.

bitter wrote:

Deregulation wrote:

No. A Trump supporter would be republican and therefore supportive of things such as allowing the stupid to be fooled. If there are people who refuse to go do the research and inform themselves before making a decision, then it's their own damn fault if they get screwed over. Big brother needs to stay out of it. So if a huckster comes along and swindles a bunch of fools into believing he is doing something he's not, it's their own fault. There's enough info out there that people can make up their own mind. Some fool wants to believe in a scam and part with their money, I'm sure as sh!t not going to help them. The rich will get richer. God bless America.

Got it - you're a bitter Bernie supporter.

Long time member of the GOP. While I am not a Trump supporter, I'd never vote Democrat. Never. And yes, I make a lot of money and I do not care if fools get scammed.

Deregulation wrote:

bitter wrote:

Got it - you're a bitter Bernie supporter.

Long time member of the GOP. While I am not a Trump supporter, I'd never vote Democrat. Never. And yes, I make a lot of money and I do not care if fools get scammed.

Well then - so you've done really, really well, it sounds like, under 8 years of Obama - do you expect that to continue under President Hillary Clinton?

Or do you foresee an alternative outcome?

I've read the whole thread and it's my conclusion that Robert Young is a bit like Hitler. Hopefully he can't be stopped before this whole thing turns into a big thing.