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7 years ago 09/12/2018 9:41am EDT

re: Black Rifles Matter

Black Rifles Matter wrote:
Probably not, brother wrote:
No it wouldn’t help someone’s career to write such a book for a couple of reasons. First, it would be a total lie—as everyone knows Trump is an unhinged idiot. So the author would immediately lose any credibility they may have had. Second, there would be no market for such a book outside of Trump’s immediate family. The second point is due to the fact that approximately 82.756% of Trump’s base doesn’t read—many probably don’t know how to read. They just watch the news “shows” and listen to right wing radio to pick up the latest talking points.
This guy right here sums it up. He mocks, insults, and looks down upon 150,000,000 Americans because he doesn't like their politics. He is typical of the hysterical Socialist party. He would silence you if he could. Fortunately he a 135 lb distance runner.
The Socialists hates us. They want us dead. They have shot US Congressmen playing baseball, they stab GOP Congressional candidates, they burn down GOP offices, they attack people with bike locks at rallies, they force us out of restaurants, they surround our houses and taunt us. If you wear a M A G A hat on the streets or schools you will be assaulted. They have Maxine Waters calling for us to be harassed, they have Madonna calling for the bombing of the White House. Kathy Griffin holds Trump's severed head in effigy. They are now even threatening to rape our kids. CNN and the rest of the mainstream media fans the flames 24X7. Social media is actively colluding to silence dissenters. They call us Nazis and fascists constantly (which is quite ironic). We're the farmers, the policemen, the firefighters, the pastors, the soldiers, the mechanics, the construction workers. We're good people and we want to be left alone.
There are over a hundred million conservatives in this country, and we are armed to the f---ing teeth. The left is calling for civil war. Be careful what you wish for.

Dang, you brought your A Game, Lying Gary! Claims to represent 150,000,000 Americans (why so few dude? I thought you represented WAY more than that), Victimhood, paranoid delusions, Victimhood, playing the rape card, claim of ownership of trades, Victimhood, threats, call to arms, Victimhood, . . .

Damn, Lying Gary, you're back better than ever.

///

Lying Gary

7 years ago 09/12/2018 9:49am EDT

re: agip

Listening to that audio book during a run this morning - I literally stopped a few times from too much laughter.

It was covering the initial meetings between Bannon and Trump many years ago when’s Trump was thinking of running against Obama. Bannon is basically brilliant in understanding the different layers of the conservative voter and what will appeal to them. Trump is sitting there trying to convince Bannon that he would crush it against Obama and Bannon thinks he is a complete moron.

In one funny segment, Bannon and an associate tell Trump he’s pro-choice, based on the history of interviews and public comments and the politicians he had supported. Trump asked him to clarify wht pro-choice means...

In another take, Bannon tells Trump voters are open to a populist candidate, and Trump replies “I can be popularist” and keep lá repeating the term even after being corrected several times.

On another segment, Bannon tells Trump he will need to dish out a lot of contributions to Republicans to start appealing to the base and the party, because he had mostly given to Democrats. Trump fiercely claims he’d given mostly to Reublicans, a total lie. They tell him it’s in the public record, almost 80% of his donations were to Democrats.

Another one was about the number of times he’d voted in last elections. Trump outright claims to them he had voted in every single election since he was old enough. Bannon then shows him a record of his only vote in an election, which for Rudy as NYC mayor. The guy lies 24/7 - he simply operates that way, he doesn’t know what honesty is.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:07am EDT

re: L L

L L wrote:
A thriving economy should net lower government deficit because higher sales should be higher income and higher tax revenue.
Plus lower expenses needing to help fewer unemployed people.
There are no bailouts going on right now.
But your right, the government budget is being put on a credit card to juice an economy that was already going up.
There are bubbles happening again.
The banks have gotten bigger again and they have eliminated some rules that allow them to take more risk.
There are exotic packages bundled again for sale on the stock market.
The price of stocks was artificially lifted by permanent corporate tax cuts that honestly may have to be reversed in the future.
Republicans have one theme every election. They will cut taxes.
You can't cut taxes in perpetuity.
It's gotta catch up to you.
All short term thinking to win the next election.

The US Treasury has collected record tax revenues and collected more in payroll taxes due to the falling unemployment rate. The deficit is a SPENDING PROBLEM and BOTH parties are to blame. It is NOT a (lack of) tax problem. The biggest drain on the budget is due to entitlements:

Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, unemployment insurance and Obamacare. "70% of all federal spending."- per Forbes arcticle. The GOP Congress tried to repeal & Replace Obamacare and that failed. Both parties will not bother to address the other ones.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2018/02/09/entitlements-threaten-the-entire-federal-budget/#aed19f258923 https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/feds-collect-record-individual-income-taxes-through-may-still-run https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/federal-tax-revenues-hit-record-highs-are-trumps-tax-cuts-paying-for-themselves/

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:08am EDT

re: Black Rifles Matter

Black Rifles Matter wrote:
Probably not, brother wrote:
No it wouldn’t help someone’s career to write such a book for a couple of reasons. First, it would be a total lie—as everyone knows Trump is an unhinged idiot. So the author would immediately lose any credibility they may have had. Second, there would be no market for such a book outside of Trump’s immediate family. The second point is due to the fact that approximately 82.756% of Trump’s base doesn’t read—many probably don’t know how to read. They just watch the news “shows” and listen to right wing radio to pick up the latest talking points.
This guy right here sums it up. He mocks, insults, and looks down upon 150,000,000 Americans because he doesn't like their politics. He is typical of the hysterical Socialist party. He would silence you if he could. Fortunately he a 135 lb distance runner.
The Socialists hates us. They want us dead. They have shot US Congressmen playing baseball, they stab GOP Congressional candidates, they burn down GOP offices, they attack people with bike locks at rallies, they force us out of restaurants, they surround our houses and taunt us. If you wear a M A G A hat on the streets or schools you will be assaulted. They have Maxine Waters calling for us to be harassed, they have Madonna calling for the bombing of the White House. Kathy Griffin holds Trump's severed head in effigy. They are now even threatening to rape our kids. CNN and the rest of the mainstream media fans the flames 24X7. Social media is actively colluding to silence dissenters. They call us Nazis and fascists constantly (which is quite ironic). We're the farmers, the policemen, the firefighters, the pastors, the soldiers, the mechanics, the construction workers. We're good people and we want to be left alone.
There are over a hundred million conservatives in this country, and we are armed to the f---ing teeth. The left is calling for civil war. Be careful what you wish for.

good thing I'm a centrist then, so when you start your civil war you'll leave me alone -

you are really unhinged there gary

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:18am EDT

re: Flagpole

Flagpole wrote:
Thisthreadisridiculous wrote:
Flagpole’s “I think I’m smarter and better” has always been in the grand scheme of things liberals downfall. Complacency and arrogance cost them the election. In the end I laugh at people like Flagpole. It only helps Republicans.
Complacency and arrogance DID help cost Democrats the election in 2016. I agree with that and have said so several times. Unfortunately, cheating with Russia helped too.
The smarter and better stuff from me is just a goof, brother.

How much did the Russia cheating help and what was the actual "cheating"?

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:21am EDT

re: Rigged for Hillary

Social Security and Medicare are funded by payroll taxes, not income taxes.

When employment is high, like now, more taxes come into fund those programs.

SS will have to be tweaked where people have to work longer, as it was before, but it still has a surplus now.

Unemployment insurance is funded by employers. They have an experience rating based on how many people they fire. So unemployment is also not funded by income tax, and low unemployment means a low expenditure there.

Obamacare had a high end income tax tax to help fund subsidies. T

The current president and Congress were elected on their promises to make a better system and they haven't done jack squat to help the last two years since gaining control.

The biggest expense funded by federal income taxes is the military and defense spending.

Republicans will be quick to blame entitlements for deficits but won't do anything one way or the other to address it . They don't govern well.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:27am EDT

re: you're suprised?

you're suprised? wrote:
You democrat pieces of trash are disgusting in your hatred of Christians.
lol....christians are hated for very good reasons...

Well, well, well. Look who's back.

Hi Daryl Basarab!

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:37am EDT

re: Trollminator

L L wrote:
(the GDP growth rate is higher than the unemployment rate for the first time in 100 years according to Trump)

Regrettably (as LL doubtless knows) this is another Trump falsehood.

GDP growth was higher than unemployment during at least one three-month span in the Obama administration.

I never voted for Obama, but fair is fair.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:37am EDT

re: L L

L L wrote:
Social Security and Medicare are funded by payroll taxes, not income taxes.
When employment is high, like now, more taxes come into fund those programs.
SS will have to be tweaked where people have to work longer, as it was before, but it still has a surplus now.
Unemployment insurance is funded by employers. They have an experience rating based on how many people they fire. So unemployment is also not funded by income tax, and low unemployment means a low expenditure there.
Obamacare had a high end income tax tax to help fund subsidies. T
The current president and Congress were elected on their promises to make a better system and they haven't done jack squat to help the last two years since gaining control.
The biggest expense funded by federal income taxes is the military and defense spending.
Republicans will be quick to blame entitlements for deficits but won't do anything one way or the other to address it . They don't govern well.

And democrats won't address entitlements either. BOTH parties are to blame.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:49am EDT

re: Rigged for Hillary

Rigged for Hillary wrote:
And democrats won't address entitlements either. BOTH parties are to blame.

Touche

You're good at rational arguments when you want to be.

We need more of that instead of all of the visceral comments being thrown back and forth.

There are smart people representing and voting for both major parties.

Maybe we can someday get a Congress that can compromise again.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:51am EDT

re: Rigged for Hillary

Rigged for Hillary wrote:
L L wrote:
Social Security and Medicare are funded by payroll taxes, not income taxes.
When employment is high, like now, more taxes come into fund those programs.
SS will have to be tweaked where people have to work longer, as it was before, but it still has a surplus now.
Unemployment insurance is funded by employers. They have an experience rating based on how many people they fire. So unemployment is also not funded by income tax, and low unemployment means a low expenditure there.
Obamacare had a high end income tax tax to help fund subsidies. T
The current president and Congress were elected on their promises to make a better system and they haven't done jack squat to help the last two years since gaining control.
The biggest expense funded by federal income taxes is the military and defense spending.
Republicans will be quick to blame entitlements for deficits but won't do anything one way or the other to address it . They don't govern well.
And democrats won't address entitlements either. BOTH parties are to blame.

I agree that neither party addresses the spending problem. Democrats are as much to blame as Republicans.

On the other side of the deficit problem the Republicans are clearly to blame. Failing to keep taxes at least roughly in line with spending is simply handing our grandchildren our bills. Unacceptable, irresponsible and immoral. And on this side (on taxes) this is the GOP's doing.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:53am EDT

re: L L

L L wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
And democrats won't address entitlements either. BOTH parties are to blame.
Touche
You're good at rational arguments when you want to be.
We need more of that instead of all of the visceral comments being thrown back and forth.
There are smart people representing and voting for both major parties.
Maybe we can someday get a Congress that can compromise again.

Agreed. Now, get Flagpole to stop posting 15X a day.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 10:54am EDT

re: PIO!

7 years ago 09/12/2018 11:00am EDT

re: Rigged for Hillary

Rigged for Hillary wrote:
L L wrote:
Touche
You're good at rational arguments when you want to be.
We need more of that instead of all of the visceral comments being thrown back and forth.
There are smart people representing and voting for both major parties.
Maybe we can someday get a Congress that can compromise again.
Agreed. Now, get Flagpole to stop posting 15X a day.

Sure, as soon as tell jaminLoper to stop posting 25X per day.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 11:01am EDT

re: Democrats are sick

Democrats are sick wrote:
Democrats are disgusting pieces of trash.

You need to move to Russia, jamin.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 11:36am EDT

re: Rigged for Hillary

Rigged for Hillary wrote:
L L wrote:
A thriving economy should net lower government deficit because higher sales should be higher income and higher tax revenue.
Plus lower expenses needing to help fewer unemployed people.
There are no bailouts going on right now.
But your right, the government budget is being put on a credit card to juice an economy that was already going up.
There are bubbles happening again.
The banks have gotten bigger again and they have eliminated some rules that allow them to take more risk.
There are exotic packages bundled again for sale on the stock market.
The price of stocks was artificially lifted by permanent corporate tax cuts that honestly may have to be reversed in the future.
Republicans have one theme every election. They will cut taxes.
You can't cut taxes in perpetuity.
It's gotta catch up to you.
All short term thinking to win the next election.
The US Treasury has collected record tax revenues and collected more in payroll taxes due to the falling unemployment rate. The deficit is a SPENDING PROBLEM and BOTH parties are to blame. It is NOT a (lack of) tax problem. The biggest drain on the budget is due to entitlements:
Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, unemployment insurance and Obamacare. "70% of all federal spending."- per Forbes arcticle. The GOP Congress tried to repeal & Replace Obamacare and that failed. Both parties will not bother to address the other ones.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/miltonezrati/2018/02/09/entitlements-threaten-the-entire-federal-budget/#aed19f258923 https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/feds-collect-record-individual-income-taxes-through-may-still-run https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/federal-tax-revenues-hit-record-highs-are-trumps-tax-cuts-paying-for-themselves/

you are cherry picking pieces of the data. Of course you are. For example, you won't put in your post that corporate taxes have plunged. because why would you tell the truth?

"Corporate taxes have plummeted by 30% this fiscal year, both because of the lower rate as well as the expanded ability to immediately deduct the full value of equipment purchases"

And as someone else pointed out, so what. Say revenue isn't the problem. Doesnt' matter because the GOP controlled WH and congress are spending insane amounts of money. I fyou want to spend insane amounts of money, don't slash taxes at the same time.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 11:40am EDT

re: Rigged for Hillary

Rigged for Hillary wrote:
L L wrote:
Social Security and Medicare are funded by payroll taxes, not income taxes.
When employment is high, like now, more taxes come into fund those programs.
SS will have to be tweaked where people have to work longer, as it was before, but it still has a surplus now.
Unemployment insurance is funded by employers. They have an experience rating based on how many people they fire. So unemployment is also not funded by income tax, and low unemployment means a low expenditure there.
Obamacare had a high end income tax tax to help fund subsidies. T
The current president and Congress were elected on their promises to make a better system and they haven't done jack squat to help the last two years since gaining control.
The biggest expense funded by federal income taxes is the military and defense spending.
Republicans will be quick to blame entitlements for deficits but won't do anything one way or the other to address it . They don't govern well.
And democrats won't address entitlements either. BOTH parties are to blame.

Which party has been in full control for the past two years and calls itself fiscally responsible, yet has ballooned the deficit due to completely unecessary tax cuts and spending? That’s what matters right now. Trying to balance the blame at this moment is ridiculous. Trying to point the finger at entitlements when our defense spending is this high is also absurd. Nothing is going to justify the irresponsible actions of the GOP.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 11:56am EDT

re: agip

The tax cuts have spurred economic growth and could result in a 4% annual GDP growth rate.

Corporations are bringing hundreds of billions of dollars in profits back as a direct result of changes in the corporate tax laws — 12% of the nearly $3 trillion held overseas came back to the U.S. in just the first three months of 2018. That will mean more economic growth and additional corporate revenues. (link below)

Revenues to the Treasury in 2018 so far the fiscal year— which started last October — all federal revenues are up by $31 billion. That's a 1.2% in increase over last year, the CBO says.

As I said before, we have a SPENDING problem. BOTH parties are to blame. The tax cuts have worked by bringing in more revenues to the Treasury.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/income-tax-revenues-trump-tax-cuts-economic-growth/

7 years ago 09/12/2018 12:05pm EDT

re: Rigged for Hillary

Rigged for Hillary wrote:
As I said before, we have a SPENDING problem. BOTH parties are to blame.

Sure, your solution is to put a BIGLY YUGE number of people out of work. Magically that will solve the deficit issue. Sure thing.

7 years ago 09/12/2018 12:17pm EDT

re: Rigged for Hillary

I just see these corporations taking their big tax cuts and buying their own stock back. That increases the wealth of the remaining shareholders.

They didn't give out raises to the workers any different than the norm.

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