Ghost of Igloi wrote:
And you can’t handle anyone that disagrees with you. You are just lite.
YOU are the one having a fit that someone disagreed with your post.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
And you can’t handle anyone that disagrees with you. You are just lite.
YOU are the one having a fit that someone disagreed with your post.
YR response wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
And you can’t handle anyone that disagrees with you. You are just lite.
YOU are the one having a fit that someone disagreed with your post.
Ah, who’s name calling about posting a funny political cartoon.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Ah, who’s name calling about posting a funny political cartoon.
How was it funny? I don't even get it. I see:
1) A blue wave, which WILL happen
2) weak, unfunny, cheap caricatures of several of Trump's enemies (But done in obvious ways, not in witty ways)
3) Trump "closing the beach" to this blue wave??? How is he actually doing that. I don't get it/see it.
Explain how it's funny other than, say, Warren in a native american headdress, or Obama looking angry (ya know, besides the "hilarious" "satire" such as that )
so Igloi, since we have you here, how do you feel about Trump's TRILLION $ DEFICITS as far as the eye can see....***DURING an economic boom*** (supposed to happen only during crises), AFTER he guaranteed he balance the budget in 8 years, AFTER his mega tax cut that was supposed to pay for itself, AFTER he and repubs attacked Obama for years for large deficits.
So what's your opinion of that, Mr Ig ? Looking FW to a "fair and balanced" answer. ( I noticed "Rigged" completely ignored this one)
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
so Igloi, since we have you here, how do you feel about Trump's TRILLION $ DEFICITS as far as the eye can see....***DURING an economic boom*** (supposed to happen only during crises), AFTER he guaranteed he balance the budget in 8 years, AFTER his mega tax cut that was supposed to pay for itself, AFTER he and repubs attacked Obama for years for large deficits.
So what's your opinion of that, Mr Ig ? Looking FW to a "fair and balanced" answer. ( I noticed "Rigged" completely ignored this one)
But Obama!
Good evening! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine PM?
Official LRC sactioner of terminology wrote:
Why...bless your heart! wrote:
LOL!!! Seriously Hardloper?!?! Wow.
I am starting to buy in to the concept of so-called “Trump derangement syndrome” but it’s not Trump’s critics that are suffering from this ailment. It’s his hardcore followers.
Correct! Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) refers to the disconnect between rationale / reality based thought and the political beliefs of Trump supporters. The term, thus, correctly applied ONLY refers to the beliefs of hardcore Trumpers. Everyone agrees.
The above is a string of posts from earlier in this thread just to remind you all of the correct usage of the term “TDS”.
Incorrect!!! wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
The Russia thing seems absurd and if anything trumped up. That said, if anything shows the seedy side of Trump it is the payoffs to cover his sexual indiscretions. Unless he were to lie about it in an FBI interview I doubt there is anything that will derail him serving his first term. And at this point Trump appears to be headed for a second term.
I agree that it seems absurd, though a better word would be surreal. It doesn’t, however, seemed “trumped up”. Did you read the details in the recent Muller indictment of those 12 Russians? There is no doubt that the Russians poured A TON of resources into trying to influence the election in 2016–beyond what they had done in prior elections.
There is almost certainly something significant that happened between the Trump Campaign and Russia. It also seems likely based on how weak and submissive Trump appeared in Putin’s presence (vs. how he seemed at NATO and the G7 with allies) that Russia has dirt on Trump or someone in his family.
I do think it is possible that Trump himself had no knowledge of illegal contact/interactions/help from the Russians during the campaign but people who he hired (and possibly some who are related to him) almost certainly did. At best, Trump is incompetent and has very bad judgment In regards to who he hired for his campaign. At worst, he is a traitor who knowingly accepted help from a foreign power that is hostile to many of the ideals on which this country is founded. Neither is good but only the latter would be impeachable.
Agree. Too much smoke for there not to be a fire. It is very true—as many right leaning pundits point out—that Russia has consistently meddled in elections for a long time but 2016 was different in terms of scale and breadth. What is coming out now about links between Cambridge Analytica, Russia, the Trump campaign and the Brexit movement is also deeply concerning for all Americans (or it should be) and Democracy in general.
I also think Trump likely didn’t have direct knowledge of his campaigns ties to Russia (or at least it’ll be very hard to prove that he did) but the fact that so many people he hired likely did know is not good.
My guess is most Republicans agree with the above but it is very telling that the only congressional republicans willing to really call out Russia and Trump’s apparent subservient behavior toward Putin in public are those republicans that are leaving office. Most of the rest of them are too weak and pathetic to call him out because his poll numbers are so high among GOP voters.
Classic case of party / career self interest over country. Sad!
Posting above to give everyone a flavor of iggy’s “thinking” abilities. Please have compassion for the old man. R-CHOP is well know to cause brain damage in older white men.
Tyrone,
I agree actually. I don’t like the tax cuts, deficits, or continued wars. I plan to vote Democratic for several candidates. If there is a Blue Wave it would not bother me. Unfortunately both parties have ignored pressing national issues, rather each side panders to their base. Personally I would rather see handouts to the “poor” (even though it encourages servitude) than corporate welfare. We are living in a nation adrift and it has been that way for sometime, as in well before Trump.
All that said, I like Elizabeth Warren’s stance on the banks, but think her whole Native American thing was fake. Obama was big hat, no cattle. In regards to the Russia thing, I believe it is a “nothing burger.” The Obama/Hillary state department was going to reset Russia/US relations. They forgot to stop the CIA from formenting turmoil in the Ukraine. Like Trump, Hillary was a seriously flawed candidate. I had enough of the Bush/Clinton dynasty. I hate Facebook and think most of the tech people are nothing more than modern day robber barons.
So I thought the cartoon was pretty funny.
Igy
Chemo cause brain damage wrote:
Incorrect!!! wrote:
I agree that it seems absurd, though a better word would be surreal. It doesn’t, however, seemed “trumped up”. Did you read the details in the recent Muller indictment of those 12 Russians? There is no doubt that the Russians poured A TON of resources into trying to influence the election in 2016–beyond what they had done in prior elections.
There is almost certainly something significant that happened between the Trump Campaign and Russia. It also seems likely based on how weak and submissive Trump appeared in Putin’s presence (vs. how he seemed at NATO and the G7 with allies) that Russia has dirt on Trump or someone in his family.
I do think it is possible that Trump himself had no knowledge of illegal contact/interactions/help from the Russians during the campaign but people who he hired (and possibly some who are related to him) almost certainly did. At best, Trump is incompetent and has very bad judgment In regards to who he hired for his campaign. At worst, he is a traitor who knowingly accepted help from a foreign power that is hostile to many of the ideals on which this country is founded. Neither is good but only the latter would be impeachable.
Agree. Too much smoke for there not to be a fire. It is very true—as many right leaning pundits point out—that Russia has consistently meddled in elections for a long time but 2016 was different in terms of scale and breadth. What is coming out now about links between Cambridge Analytica, Russia, the Trump campaign and the Brexit movement is also deeply concerning for all Americans (or it should be) and Democracy in general.
I also think Trump likely didn’t have direct knowledge of his campaigns ties to Russia (or at least it’ll be very hard to prove that he did) but the fact that so many people he hired likely did know is not good.
My guess is most Republicans agree with the above but it is very telling that the only congressional republicans willing to really call out Russia and Trump’s apparent subservient behavior toward Putin in public are those republicans that are leaving office. Most of the rest of them are too weak and pathetic to call him out because his poll numbers are so high among GOP voters.
Classic case of party / career self interest over country. Sad!
Posting above to give everyone a flavor of iggy’s “thinking” abilities. Please have compassion for the old man. R-CHOP is well know to cause brain damage in older white men.
Hide behind your unregistered handle pu$$y.
Chemo cause brain damage wrote:
Incorrect!!! wrote:
I agree that it seems absurd, though a better word would be surreal. It doesn’t, however, seemed “trumped up”. Did you read the details in the recent Muller indictment of those 12 Russians? There is no doubt that the Russians poured A TON of resources into trying to influence the election in 2016–beyond what they had done in prior elections.
There is almost certainly something significant that happened between the Trump Campaign and Russia. It also seems likely based on how weak and submissive Trump appeared in Putin’s presence (vs. how he seemed at NATO and the G7 with allies) that Russia has dirt on Trump or someone in his family.
I do think it is possible that Trump himself had no knowledge of illegal contact/interactions/help from the Russians during the campaign but people who he hired (and possibly some who are related to him) almost certainly did. At best, Trump is incompetent and has very bad judgment In regards to who he hired for his campaign. At worst, he is a traitor who knowingly accepted help from a foreign power that is hostile to many of the ideals on which this country is founded. Neither is good but only the latter would be impeachable.
Agree. Too much smoke for there not to be a fire. It is very true—as many right leaning pundits point out—that Russia has consistently meddled in elections for a long time but 2016 was different in terms of scale and breadth. What is coming out now about links between Cambridge Analytica, Russia, the Trump campaign and the Brexit movement is also deeply concerning for all Americans (or it should be) and Democracy in general.
I also think Trump likely didn’t have direct knowledge of his campaigns ties to Russia (or at least it’ll be very hard to prove that he did) but the fact that so many people he hired likely did know is not good.
My guess is most Republicans agree with the above but it is very telling that the only congressional republicans willing to really call out Russia and Trump’s apparent subservient behavior toward Putin in public are those republicans that are leaving office. Most of the rest of them are too weak and pathetic to call him out because his poll numbers are so high among GOP voters.
Classic case of party / career self interest over country. Sad!
Posting above to give everyone a flavor of iggy’s “thinking” abilities. Please have compassion for the old man. R-CHOP is well know to cause brain damage in older white men.
I don't think you people are reading enough.
Donald Trump has ties with the Russian Mob which is different from the Mob in the US. The Russian mob is tied to the Russian government. Russia uses the mob to get money out of the country and launder it. The best way to launder? Real estate! It will be discovered that Trump has been involved in money laundering with Russia for years and perhaps decades.
This is for sure ONE thing Russia and Putin have over Trump.
He is not an innocent man no matter how dumb he is.
Oh, and what is the second-best way to launder money? Diamonds. Who had a jewelry business that dealt in loose diamonds who has been suspected of money laundering? Ivanka Trump!
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
That’s quite a theory Flagpole. I haven’t heard that one yet.
active measures
google it
Oh, OK I think I found it. Is this the link:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Measures_Working_Group
Flagpole wrote:
Donald Trump has ties with the Russian Mob which is different from the Mob in the US. The Russian mob is tied to the Russian government. Russia uses the mob to get money out of the country and launder it. The best way to launder? Real estate! It will be discovered that Trump has been involved in money laundering with Russia for years and perhaps decades.
Trump Org has in the past decade—ever since US banks stopped loaning money to the "King of Bankruptcy" who is Trump—was on an all cash purchase spree for real estate through 2014—the self-proclaimed "Kind of Debt" spent $400 million in real cash money. In 2008 Trump suddenly found himself with $2 BILLION in cash to spend—the same year banks refused to loan him money.
BUT in 2008 was desperate for his own cash and tried to get Scottish banks to loan him money to buy an existing golf course there—the banks refused to loan him money because the Trump terms would have amounted to a free loan. At the exact same time Trump was working to close an all cash deal in Scotland to build what became his golf course there. The first deal died.
Where did all that cash come from that Trump Org had to spend in specific ways—with someone else approving of the spending? Recall what Eric Trump said to an acquaintance in 2008, “we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”
https://www.inquisitr.com/4964811/donald-trump-loan-hotel-cash/Ghost of Igloi wrote:
That’s quite a theory Flagpole. I haven’t heard that one yet.
The money from Russia is not a theory. You won't hear about it on Fox News or Brietbart or Infowars.
At this point it is a theory like Uranium One and Clinton Global Initiative pay for play.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
At this point it is a theory like Uranium One and Clinton Global Initiative pay for play.
Mueller has the bank records. Keep your hopes up.
Bank records wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
At this point it is a theory like Uranium One and Clinton Global Initiative pay for play.
Mueller has the bank records. Keep your hopes up.
Yep. He also has a lot of lawyers on his team with expertise in money laundering. This was not an accident.
There are no theories about Trump being a criminal. He is for sure one, and he made the biggest mistake of his life running for President.
He will be proven to have committed many crimes. It will be interesting to see if there is ONE that takes him down or just the sheer number.