Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Increasingly militant and irrational. When the political tide turns, and it will, remember to put this guy on the potential terrorist watch list.

Flagpole wrote:

Oh, and if this writer is NOT Mike Pence and yet used "lodestar" to potentially steer people in Pence's direction, that is low to the nth degree.

That would be WAY too clever. Frankly, I think that scenario is implausible.

There is a simpler explanation for the author's use of "lodestar". Notice that the op-ed writer seems to have an affinity for John McCain. It is likely that the author was present at the funeral or at least watched it on TV. Henry Kissenger used the word "lodestar" in his eulogy. So the word would have been fresh in the author's mind when he wrote his op-ed.

What are you talking about? My point is that Trump said he would wipe out $19 trillion in debt in 8 years and instead he has done things to greatly increase it. We were already in a growing and improving economy when Obama handed the reins to Trump. This is not the time to increase the national debt.

Try again.

Loadstar wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Oh, and if this writer is NOT Mike Pence and yet used "lodestar" to potentially steer people in Pence's direction, that is low to the nth degree.

From McCain's "60 Minutes" TV interview last October:

"I was raised in a military family," McCain said, drawing a contrast both charitable and pointed. "I was raised in the concept and belief that duty, honor, country is the lodestar for the behavior that we have to exhibit every single day."

It IS a word, so obviously people have used that word before, and obviously McCain didn't write that op-ed piece. It is not a word that is used often, and Pence has been known to use it frequently. The White House has narrowed the writer down to 12 people. If they are right, it's unlikely that any of them other than Pence would use that word in normal communication.

So, again, IF this writer is NOT Pence and used "lodestar" just to point suspicion his way, then that's really low.

Flagpole wrote:

Loadstar wrote:

From McCain's "60 Minutes" TV interview last October:

"I was raised in a military family," McCain said, drawing a contrast both charitable and pointed. "I was raised in the concept and belief that duty, honor, country is the lodestar for the behavior that we have to exhibit every single day."

It IS a word, so obviously people have used that word before, and obviously McCain didn't write that op-ed piece. It is not a word that is used often, and Pence has been known to use it frequently. The White House has narrowed the writer down to 12 people. If they are right, it's unlikely that any of them other than Pence would use that word in normal communication.

So, again, IF this writer is NOT Pence and used "lodestar" just to point suspicion his way, then that's really low.

It’s Paul Ryan. Despite what he claims

Awsi Dooger wrote:

She also emphasized during the debates that Donald Trump would be Putin's puppet

https://twitter.com/HillaryWarnedUs/status/1037686253322465290

So Crooked Hillary could be the one who wrote the anonymous op-ed. Or one of her minions.

Unless the failing NYT reveals the identity of the author, we cannot rule out that possibility.

Yeah, it's a tough thing. I wasn't the only one on the planet, but yesterday I wrote here that this person wanted to be on the right side of history...either because this person wants to work again or just wants to be seen favorably.

As much as I don't like Trump and think he's unhinged, is a criminal and was never about being President to serve the public, it is ridiculous to have someone from within trying to sabotage his efforts. I like the end result, but I'm not willing to want it because the route to get there is wrong. As far as we know today, Trump WAS elected by the people, and this writer was not.

I AM glad that the public gets this view from this writer, but I do not support what the writer is doing in the administration. Would be better for this person to resign and let rip with accusations.

Fat hurts wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Oh, and if this writer is NOT Mike Pence and yet used "lodestar" to potentially steer people in Pence's direction, that is low to the nth degree.

That would be WAY too clever. Frankly, I think that scenario is implausible.

There is a simpler explanation for the author's use of "lodestar". Notice that the op-ed writer seems to have an affinity for John McCain. It is likely that the author was present at the funeral or at least watched it on TV. Henry Kissenger used the word "lodestar" in his eulogy. So the word would have been fresh in the author's mind when he wrote his op-ed.

A reasonable explanation. I hope you are right and that this writer didn't do anything nefarious to steer the suspicion away from them and toward anyone else.

Flagpole wrote:

Not all true wrote:

You know not of what you speak.

The debt grew by $9 trillion during the Obama admin which has in large part led to one of the longest economic booms in our history.

Lots of time debt is great for the economy. This is one of those times. It’s not like personal finance.

What are you talking about? My point is that Trump said he would wipe out $19 trillion in debt in 8 years and instead he has done things to greatly increase it. We were already in a growing and improving economy when Obama handed the reins to Trump. This is not the time to increase the national debt.

Try again.

Apparently, your knowledge of economics could fit inside a thimble. ,

Replicants wrote:

Not all true wrote:

The debt grew by $9 trillion during the Obama admin which has in large part led to one of the longest economic booms in our history.

The Republicans were in charge of Congress at the time. Congress writes spending bills, not the president. Got it?

To be fair, Obama was for the spending, and as bad as that recession was, it was necessary.

Tax cuts NOW when we are in a thriving economy are not necessary and are setting us up for big trouble later on.

Glad you listen to CNN. That exactly what they were saying this am.

Don’t try to pass it off as an original thought when you got the opinion from someone else.

CNN listener wrote:

Glad you listen to CNN. That exactly what they were saying this am.

Don’t try to pass it off as an original thought when you got the opinion from someone else.

LOL . . . a rabid Trump, like you, listens to CNN? 0/10

THE CASE FOR PENCE AS OP-ED AUTHOR

Earlier, I said that I thought the author was unlikely to be Pence. My reasoning was that the author surely knows he will be found out. Pence is the one person for whom the op-ed would be seen as completely self-serving. In other words, it would be revealed that Pence was trying sabotage the president in order to get him impeached and install himself as president.

If Pence is the author and he is discovered soon, I wouldn't be surprised if Pence is the one facing impeachment.

But on the other hand, Pence may be planning to run against Trump in 2020. After all, Pence has already formed a PAC to fund a presidential run. This is a very odd thing for a VP to do in a president's first term.

So if Pence is planning to run in 2020, he could come out and admit to being the author of the op-ed some time late next year. He could say, "See, I've been saving the country from Trump all along. I've already had to serve as the shadow president."

Now, I still think Pence authorship is unlikely. But it would be a stroke of political genius as long as he isn't discovered too soon. Things are bound to get much worse for Trump in 2019 with the Mueller investigation wrapping up. And Pence would definitely need a way to distance himself from the president in order to have a shot at the 2020 nomination.

Pence casting himself as "Hero of the Republic" would certainly provide that needed distance.

For the Trumper who listens to CNN.

Donor base fleeing GOP candidates after Woodward book and NYT op-ed revelations: CNN’s Dana Bash

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07 Sep 2018 at 10:16 ET

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Today, CNN’s Dana Bash said that hardcore GOP donors are refusing to donate to desperate Republican candidates due to the turmoil in the White House detailed in Bob Woodward’s book “Fear.”

On a show hosted by Alisyn Camerota …

Camerota: “The White House is in damage control following Bob Woodward’s book called “Fear” and the New York Times op-ed. How is this drama impacting Republican candidates?”

Bash: “The headline from Republican operatives I’m talking to who are trying to keep the control of House in Republican hands in two months is not good. First and foremost, I am told, there is a real problem with they call the ‘donor base.'”

Bash: “It’s become more and more difficult for Republicans, particularly on the leadership level, and on down to raise money because Republican donors are not as eager to write checks in this environment — and they’re seeing in that a big way, I’m told.”

Flagpole wrote:

Replicants wrote:

The Republicans were in charge of Congress at the time. Congress writes spending bills, not the president. Got it?

To be fair, Obama was for the spending, and as bad as that recession was, it was necessary.

George W. Bush was also partially responsible for the recovery spending. In the final days of his administration, W went ahead and cleared the way for the bailout. I don't remember the exact actions taken, but W recognized that the bailout was necessary and he didn't want Obama to be hamstrung with political considerations. So he acted just a few weeks before Obama was sworn in. I remember Obama explicitly thanking W for this unselfish act.

He didn't try to pass it off as original. Flagpole explicitly said "I wasn't the only one on the planet, but yesterday I wrote..."

The person wanted Trump to know his cabinet does not respect him, it has little to do with exposing something that everyone is already aware of. They wanted to put their boot to his chest and this was an excellent way to do it. As a trump hater, I really love the damage it is doing to Trump’s ego. This is going to drive Trump nuts until the very end. He may even end up doing something really stupid to try to uncover the source, like make a request for unconstitutional use of intelligence resources. The WH is a complete circus.

My guess is that it’s the COS.

XY wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

It IS a word, so obviously people have used that word before, and obviously McCain didn't write that op-ed piece. It is not a word that is used often, and Pence has been known to use it frequently. The White House has narrowed the writer down to 12 people. If they are right, it's unlikely that any of them other than Pence would use that word in normal communication.

So, again, IF this writer is NOT Pence and used "lodestar" just to point suspicion his way, then that's really low.

It’s Paul Ryan. Despite what he claims

Can't be Paul Ryan. NYT referred to the author as "he".

Not all true wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

What are you talking about? My point is that Trump said he would wipe out $19 trillion in debt in 8 years and instead he has done things to greatly increase it. We were already in a growing and improving economy when Obama handed the reins to Trump. This is not the time to increase the national debt.

Try again.

Apparently, your knowledge of economics could fit inside a thimble. ,

Dude, you are a fool. Despite whether you think it is good to wipe out national debt or not, TRUMP said he was going to do that and that he was going to do it in 8 years, and he has done the opposite. So, he told a falsehood here (perhaps lied) and showed absolutely no understanding of the national debt...something proven earlier when he connected the national debt to the stock market in a v ery direct way.

You have nothing to teach me.