BREAKING - Brosnan LOSES his appeal, NCAA confirms serious violations happened

ultimate wrote:

100% agreed wrote:

BurdenOfProof you are clearly lying. The NCAA did find evidence of recruiting.

Here is the NCAA Bylaw that outlines what they need to prove to violations:

"19.7 Standards of Review and Resolution Methods (Level I/II Cases) 19.7.1 Enforcement Allegation Standard. The enforcement staff shall make formal allegations if it determines there is credible and sufficient information (direct or circumstantial) that reasonably demonstrates a violation of one or more NCAA bylaws occurred. (Adopted: 8/31/22 effective 1/1/23)"

In their report, quoted below, they clearly state they determined that the evidence in Brosnan's case REASONABLY SUPPORTS a recruiting nexus to the conversations.

"In addition, the hearing panel noted that it identified various information in the case record to support a reasonable inference of a recruiting nexus to the discussions.10 (Committee on Infractions Response Page No. 6, Footnote No. 4) Further, the hearing panel argued that a Level II case designation was warranted based on the multiple contacts over a three-month period showing they were not isolated or limited and that there was more than a minimal recruiting advantage gained by the conversations due to both individuals transferring and competing for the appellant. (Committee on Infractions Response"

and

"The hearing panel’s assessment as to the number and timing of calls to the prospective student-athletes’ families relative to the prospective student-athletes entering the Transfer Portal and indicating they did not want to be contacted by any institutions, as well as the fact that the prospective student-athletes actually transferred to UCLA, reasonably supports the tampering violation. In addition, the fact that both prospective student-athletes transferred to other institutions after Mr. Brosnan’s departure further supports the reasonableness of the hearing panel’s determination."

Everything BurdenOfProof said is a lie.

Holy s***, Burdenofproof just got OWNED. I've never seen someone get so demolished on LRC. This annihilates all of his chat GPT garbage.

Burdenofproof has been exposed as a complete fraud.

This proves without a doubt that Brosnan committed multiple NCAA violations by illegally recruiting athletes from other teams before they were in the portal. Brosnan cheated and got caught.

googled it wrote:

I just found this thread after googling what the status was of Brosnan's NCAA investigation. I coached against his teams in CA and have sent multiple athletes to run at UCLA. The outcome of this investigation really shocked me and I have 2 points to make.

#1 - The investigation results leave no doubt that Brosnan broke NCAA rules. Regardless of whether you agree with the rules, you have to obey the rules and Brosnan did not.

#2 - This results were tragic for everyone involved. The athletes went through hell during this investigation and had to transfer further away from their families as a result. UCLA is still trying to rebound from the mass exodus of transfers and fight the uphill recruiting battle as they fix their reputation. And even for Brosnan, a very successful and rapidly ascending coaching career is now likely over and that's a tragedy for him, whether you are a fan of his or not.

ECNCAA Coach wrote:

poaching portals wrote:

Calling the parent right before and after an athlete enters the transfer portal is not “normal communication”.

This argument by the NCAA just doesn’t hold up logically or factually.
When an athlete intends to enter the transfer portal, there is no precise timestamp that coaches or families can rely on. Just a 48 hour from the time of request. The portal process isn’t like flipping a switch with public visibility in real time. So the idea that a conversation occurring “the night before” automatically implies recruiting is a stretch, it ignores how the system actually works in practice.
In this case, the communication wasn’t with a prospect it was with a longtime personal friend, with an established history of regular, non-recruiting conversations over years a years. That context matters. The NCAA is selectively stripping away that history to manufacture a “recruiting nexus” that doesn’t exist.
More importantly, the undisputed facts show compliance, not a violation:
When directly asked about transferring, the response was clear: “I can’t talk about that until they’re in the portal.”
There were no discussions of scholarships, roster spots, or inducements.
There was no direct communication with the athlete prior to portal entry. That’s a huge deal!
That’s exactly what the rules require.
The NCAA’s position effectively creates a strict liability standard based on timing alone, not on actual recruiting behavior. That’s a problem. You can’t infer intent or fabricate a violation simply because a conversation happened near a portal entry, especially when the content of that conversation shows compliance.
At a broader level, this raises a serious issue,
If the NCAA is going to penalize a coach for speaking with a longtime personal friend about general matters, with no recruiting conduct, then they are crossing into regulating who someone can associate with in their private life. That’s not enforcement against all state and federal laws!
Bottom line, There is no evidence of recruiting. There is only an assumption based on timing, stripped of context, and contradicted by the actual record. I agree with many others that if Brosnan decides to sue the NCAA he’s win big!

ECNCAA Coach wrote:

poaching portals wrote:

Calling the parent right before and after an athlete enters the transfer portal is not “normal communication”.

This argument by the NCAA just doesn’t hold up logically or factually.
When an athlete intends to enter the transfer portal, there is no precise timestamp that coaches or families can rely on. Just a 48 hour from the time of request. The portal process isn’t like flipping a switch with public visibility in real time. So the idea that a conversation occurring “the night before” automatically implies recruiting is a stretch, it ignores how the system actually works in practice.
In this case, the communication wasn’t with a prospect it was with a longtime personal friend, with an established history of regular, non-recruiting conversations over years a years. That context matters. The NCAA is selectively stripping away that history to manufacture a “recruiting nexus” that doesn’t exist.
More importantly, the undisputed facts show compliance, not a violation:
When directly asked about transferring, the response was clear: “I can’t talk about that until they’re in the portal.”
There were no discussions of scholarships, roster spots, or inducements.
There was no direct communication with the athlete prior to portal entry. That’s a huge deal!
That’s exactly what the rules require.
The NCAA’s position effectively creates a strict liability standard based on timing alone, not on actual recruiting behavior. That’s a problem. You can’t infer intent or fabricate a violation simply because a conversation happened near a portal entry, especially when the content of that conversation shows compliance.
At a broader level, this raises a serious issue,
If the NCAA is going to penalize a coach for speaking with a longtime personal friend about general matters, with no recruiting conduct, then they are crossing into regulating who someone can associate with in their private life. That’s not enforcement against all state and federal laws!
Bottom line, There is no evidence of recruiting. There is only an assumption based on timing, stripped of context, and contradicted by the actual record. I agree with many others that if Brosnan decides to sue the NCAA he’s win big!