There's no way. I just peeped some of his outdoor rides to see his zone distribution and his Z2 is 174-236 (if that's accurate, who knows, but certainly more accurate than his zwift zones).
Fun fact, he and his wife both cheat on Zwift. That’s how sad it’s gotten, they cheat at virtual cycling just to get the KUDOZ!!!!
No doubt. It is painfully obvious for a variety of reasons. Now -- let's look at this in the broader scope. If they are willing cheat on a video game, in an effort to maintain their world class appearances at everything they do, you can guaran-damn-tee they are willing to lie, cheat, mislead, misrepresent (anyone hear of Spring gels?), and do whatever else is necessary to reach their end goal. He's a liar and hypocrite -- even down to his "You're awesome" and "Love everyone!" public schtick. I think there is a good reason he will never participate in a variety of running that includes even the possibility of off season testing.
according to some ftp zone calculators, if his upper end of zone 2 is 275w, his ftp could be around 400w.
pretty amazing for a trail runner who cycles 1 to 2 times per week. he should go pro!
Remco Evanepoel (olympic gold) has an estimated ftp of around that, albeit he is much smaller.
According to Zwift, David weighs around the same as Remco (135 pounds). Look out in 2028, Roche will no doubt get the gold in the road race. On a side note, Megan apparently weighed around 110 lbs. days before giving birth 🤔
No doubt. It is painfully obvious for a variety of reasons. Now -- let's look at this in the broader scope. If they are willing cheat on a video game, in an effort to maintain their world class appearances at everything they do, you can guaran-damn-tee they are willing to lie, cheat, mislead, misrepresent (anyone hear of Spring gels?), and do whatever else is necessary to reach their end goal. He's a liar and hypocrite -- even down to his "You're awesome" and "Love everyone!" public schtick. I think there is a good reason he will never participate in a variety of running that includes even the possibility of off season testing.
I don’t think Leadville tests at all, and although WS used to test top 10 or 20, I thought they stopped testing a few years back, but could be wrong. The whole thing reminds me of Mark McGuire with his “supplements” over his shoulder during interviews while proclaiming he was clean.
according to some ftp zone calculators, if his upper end of zone 2 is 275w, his ftp could be around 400w.
pretty amazing for a trail runner who cycles 1 to 2 times per week. he should go pro!
Remco Evanepoel (olympic gold) has an estimated ftp of around that, albeit he is much smaller.
According to Zwift, David weighs around the same as Remco (135 pounds). Look out in 2028, Roche will no doubt get the gold in the road race. On a side note, Megan apparently weighed around 110 lbs. days before giving birth 🤔
To quote this thread, David is a sweaty skeleton so I could buy that, but Megan being 110 even pre-pregnancy? No way. That would put her BMI at like 17.8...that's SCARY skinny, even skinnier than our sweaty skeleton.
So in short, they're using their middle school weights.
This actually makes me laugh. Very on par with Boulder, people with no real job, bored, with too much time and money on their hands… time to cheat on a meaningless social media activity app and brag about it!
according to some ftp zone calculators, if his upper end of zone 2 is 275w, his ftp could be around 400w.
pretty amazing for a trail runner who cycles 1 to 2 times per week. he should go pro!
Remco Evanepoel (olympic gold) has an estimated ftp of around that, albeit he is much smaller.
According to Zwift, David weighs around the same as Remco (135 pounds). Look out in 2028, Roche will no doubt get the gold in the road race. On a side note, Megan apparently weighed around 110 lbs. days before giving birth 🤔
Lol that is just so pathetic. Cheating on a treadmill, cheating on a video game bike… what’s next?
Looks like the "zone 2" ride 28 jan was a blatant attempt to show off his supposed zone 2 power. in a zwift race on 23 Jan, he averaged 288w with an average heart rate of 158bpm for 43 mins or so. His weighted average power was 304w. No way is his zone 2 only 20w less or so than his average power during a 43 minute race.
someone would have to be a 2:08 marathoner to beat one of his Leadville splits
What does that even mean? Leadville has 4 major aide stations, so 8 splits. Would you have to be a 2:08 marathoner just to hang with him for one eights of the race? Even he's not that delusional.
Looks like the "zone 2" ride 28 jan was a blatant attempt to show off his supposed zone 2 power. in a zwift race on 23 Jan, he averaged 288w with an average heart rate of 158bpm for 43 mins or so. His weighted average power was 304w. No way is his zone 2 only 20w less or so than his average power during a 43 minute race.
Per Strava, Roche has entered data suggesting an FTP of 331. If he weighs 135 lbs, that would give him a power/kg of 5.43. Kristian Blummenfelt had a stated power/kg ratio of 5.47 at the time of his goal medal win in Tokyo. So, apparently, Roche is a comparable cyclist to the Ironman distance world record holder? Tracks.
Side note, I'm currently watching Clayton Young's new Boston build video. It is striking to watch real elites run real workouts at 4:3x Pace with a real coach, and compare it Roche's videos. The difference is that Young and Mantz have everything Roche wants but will never get.
We should definitely keep consuming absolutely everything he puts out obsessively to track any potential inconsistencies and then come here to talk about them in detail. How deep does it go!? I spotted that if you rearrange the letters 'Michelle Ferrari EPO' you can make the word Roche! Coincidence!? I know it feels like this is a toxic backwater and that the 'sheeple' think he's a nice guy, but if we keep at this for like, 5 or even 10 years, we will bring him down.
We should definitely keep consuming absolutely everything he puts out obsessively to track any potential inconsistencies and then come here to talk about them in detail. How deep does it go!? I spotted that if you rearrange the letters 'Michelle Ferrari EPO' you can make the word Roche! Coincidence!? I know it feels like this is a toxic backwater and that the 'sheeple' think he's a nice guy, but if we keep at this for like, 5 or even 10 years, we will bring him down.
Lane attempt at humor.
the posts above require the smallest amount of critical thinking in order to see how much David is lyIng. This isn’t about bringing him down this is about pointing out the truth
We should definitely keep consuming absolutely everything he puts out obsessively to track any potential inconsistencies and then come here to talk about them in detail. How deep does it go!? I spotted that if you rearrange the letters 'Michelle Ferrari EPO' you can make the word Roche! Coincidence!? I know it feels like this is a toxic backwater and that the 'sheeple' think he's a nice guy, but if we keep at this for like, 5 or even 10 years, we will bring him down.
Lane attempt at humor.
the posts above require the smallest amount of critical thinking in order to see how much David is lyIng. This isn’t about bringing him down this is about pointing out the truth
You don't have to persuade me buddy if there are no consequences to overestimating your speed on a treadmill what have we got chaos is what
the posts above require the smallest amount of critical thinking in order to see how much David is lyIng. This isn’t about bringing him down this is about pointing out the truth
You don't have to persuade me buddy if there are no consequences to overestimating your speed on a treadmill what have we got chaos is what
the consequences are lying to his audience and sponsors in order to get more money and attention for himself. What does it matter? That's what it matters.
I find all of it interesting because he says multiple times in his recent video that future generations will "stand on his shoulders" and receive great benefits from his openness and the training knowledge he is bestowing upon the viewers in this video series. He emphasizes the paces/distances he's running on the treadmill, while also noting that the pace data is not accurate/reliable on the treadmill. Either he is providing accurate reproducible training data or he's not. It's a jumbled mess.
Why doesn’t he bang on about how many more watts he could get at sea level also? He says his mid-zone 2 HR is 275 watts. That’s pro peloton competitive. Similarly, Megan, per her Strava account, said that her zone 1 was 166 watts. One month out from surgery. 1. That would place her FTP at around 280 watts. 2. With her Zwift weight of 110 lb, she would be a world class professional cyclist. She would win almost everything. She also went out of her way to say “I’m so glad we have a trainer that actually works!” Meaning, they’ve seen their power is higher than when they had the more accurate Wahoo Kickr Bike and they prefer the numbers.
Funny how she went for an outdoor ride recently and forgot to hide her HR and power. Her average was something like 155 and her power was 106.
Why look at all? Because it’s hilarious how much they lie and cheat. The whole “Megan is the most dominant female athlete in the world” is stupid and unproven. As is saying “I’m so humble, I’m so humble. But it’ll probably be me who breaks my Leadville record.”
(I get those aren’t direct quotes.)
They are both good athletes. Just not the best. They’ll never be the best. Settle down a bit and enjoy your family and what success you have had and likely will continue to have.