The RCP betting market avg is even more fun to look at:
Trump 55.8
Brandon 18.0 (cut in half in the last 5 days)
I went to PredictIT to see what the betting odds are and it's Trump $.59, Harris $.23, and Biden $.21. The headlines on Drudge make it sound like a done deal. RCP is filled with articles about Joe stepping down. Politico is still running articles like "Dems push back on calls to replace Biden."
Odds are pretty good that Biden announces that he is withdrawing from the presidential race sometime over the weekend. His inner circle is starting to realize that they will never be able to unring the bell of the debate performance and all the stories coming out about efforts to conceal his cognitive decline.
I would also expect that Dems will announce a mini primary to replace Biden and Kamala will end up getting nominated at the convention. She will pick Whitmer as her VP.
If you are looking at polls right now and think that Trump has it in the bag, just remember that Clinton polled ahead of Trump nearly the entire campaign in 2016. A lot will ride on what will be the focus of a Harris campaign. If she can focus in on bread and butter economics and fight back against right wing anti-woke rhetoric by focusing on how extreme the right is, then she will have a shot. If she tries a Hilary Clinton 2.0 where she hopes that not being Trump is enough to get elected, she will lose.
Odds are pretty good that Biden announces that he is withdrawing from the presidential race sometime over the weekend. His inner circle is starting to realize that they will never be able to unring the bell of the debate performance and all the stories coming out about efforts to conceal his cognitive decline.
I would also expect that Dems will announce a mini primary to replace Biden and Kamala will end up getting nominated at the convention. She will pick Whitmer as her VP.
If you are looking at polls right now and think that Trump has it in the bag, just remember that Clinton polled ahead of Trump nearly the entire campaign in 2016. A lot will ride on what will be the focus of a Harris campaign. If she can focus in on bread and butter economics and fight back against right wing anti-woke rhetoric by focusing on how extreme the right is, then she will have a shot. If she tries a Hilary Clinton 2.0 where she hopes that not being Trump is enough to get elected, she will lose.
There won’t be primaries. If Biden steps aside, there will be a free for all for his delegates, at the convention. If Biden refuses to do so, it will be next to impossible to prevent him from being the nominee.
Trump is a terrible candidate and the only thing that gives him a chance of winning is concerns over Biden’s mental acuity. There are many democrat senators and governors that could beat him.
There won’t be primaries. If Biden steps aside, there will be a free for all for his delegates, at the convention. If Biden refuses to do so, it will be next to impossible to prevent him from being the nominee.
This whole thing is a sham. Biden should have resigned well before primary season. But, the Democrats don't really hold primaries, they hold coronations. So there will be a back-room deal to push forward a candidate, while they and the media portray the Republicans as "threats to democracy".
Odds are pretty good that Biden announces that he is withdrawing from the presidential race sometime over the weekend. His inner circle is starting to realize that they will never be able to unring the bell of the debate performance and all the stories coming out about efforts to conceal his cognitive decline.
I would also expect that Dems will announce a mini primary to replace Biden and Kamala will end up getting nominated at the convention. She will pick Whitmer as her VP.
If you are looking at polls right now and think that Trump has it in the bag, just remember that Clinton polled ahead of Trump nearly the entire campaign in 2016. A lot will ride on what will be the focus of a Harris campaign. If she can focus in on bread and butter economics and fight back against right wing anti-woke rhetoric by focusing on how extreme the right is, then she will have a shot. If she tries a Hilary Clinton 2.0 where she hopes that not being Trump is enough to get elected, she will lose.
There won’t be primaries. If Biden steps aside, there will be a free for all for his delegates, at the convention. If Biden refuses to do so, it will be next to impossible to prevent him from being the nominee.
Trump is a terrible candidate and the only thing that gives him a chance of winning is concerns over Biden’s mental acuity. There are many democrat senators and governors that could beat him.
Kamala couldn't get .5% of the vote in the 2020 Democratic primary.
Democrats don't even like her she won't do well with independents.
None of the hypocritical COVID lockdown candidates like Whitmer or Newsom will do well with independents.
The democrats have shifted so far to the left none of their candidates are electable even with Donald Trump as the opponent.
There won’t be primaries. If Biden steps aside, there will be a free for all for his delegates, at the convention. If Biden refuses to do so, it will be next to impossible to prevent him from being the nominee.
Trump is a terrible candidate and the only thing that gives him a chance of winning is concerns over Biden’s mental acuity. There are many democrat senators and governors that could beat him.
Kamala couldn't get .5% of the vote in the 2020 Democratic primary.
Democrats don't even like her she won't do well with independents.
None of the hypocritical COVID lockdown candidates like Whitmer or Newsom will do well with independents.
The democrats have shifted so far to the left none of their candidates are electable even with Donald Trump as the opponent.
Democrat nominees are always moderates, and whoever is chosen, will be one as well. Whoever it is, I don’t see any votes changing to Trump. Meanwhile, Trump is extreme in his views. You’re biased and are not looking at the situation, objectively.
Kamala couldn't get .5% of the vote in the 2020 Democratic primary.
Democrats don't even like her she won't do well with independents.
None of the hypocritical COVID lockdown candidates like Whitmer or Newsom will do well with independents.
The democrats have shifted so far to the left none of their candidates are electable even with Donald Trump as the opponent.
Democrat nominees are always moderates, and whoever is chosen, will be one as well. Whoever it is, I don’t see any votes changing to Trump. Meanwhile, Trump is extreme in his views. You’re biased and are not looking at the situation, objectively.
None of them are moderate. Joe Manchin was the last moderate Democrat on the national scene and he's been thrown out of the party.
Biden won in 2020, in part, because he pretended he was a moderate. He has NOT governed as a moderate.
You're projecting.
Trump has "extreme views" for agreeing with Barack Obama and Bill Clinton on the need for border security?
The fact that you think the Newsom's and Harris's and Buttigieg's of the world are "moderate" means you are WAAAY to the left of center.
They say he's dead set on seeing it through. I've had it, simply not going to vote if those are the only choices. IDGAF what important measures or other races are on the ballot.
Democrat nominees are always moderates, and whoever is chosen, will be one as well. Whoever it is, I don’t see any votes changing to Trump. Meanwhile, Trump is extreme in his views. You’re biased and are not looking at the situation, objectively.
None of them are moderate. Joe Manchin was the last moderate Democrat on the national scene and he's been thrown out of the party.
Biden won in 2020, in part, because he pretended he was a moderate. He has NOT governed as a moderate.
You're projecting.
Trump has "extreme views" for agreeing with Barack Obama and Bill Clinton on the need for border security?
The fact that you think the Newsom's and Harris's and Buttigieg's of the world are "moderate" means you are WAAAY to the left of center.
Besides Trump saying so, what makes you think Biden is extreme? Trump considers anyone that doesn’t agree with him to be his enemy and has no interest in compromise. Biden was going to approve a bill that would further supported border security, and the Republican senators agreed with it, but Trump shot it down.
What radical changes are you expecting should Newsom or Harris win?
I agree Biden won. I believe maybe 35-40% of all Americans would vote for anyone over Trump, but it’s not 51%. Some of the center left and right thought Biden would be better for the country in 2020. The debate changed that for most of that group.
Trump is going to win, unless they put Newsome on the ticket, and I’m not even sure that would change the outcome this late in the game.
You forget that the winner does not need 51% or even 50%. The winner can have even less votes and still 'win'.
The ONLY way Biden drops out is if Trumps drop out.
It was one debate. Chill out. Both of these dudes are mentally impaired.
Trump had never had more than 47% of the vote. He lost 46.8 to 51.3 in 2020 and he 'won' in 2016 with 46.1 to 48.2 for Hillary.
He does not have more support in 2024 than in 2020.
Since Bush in '88 only Obama has won with 51%+. Bush '04 even has over 50% (50.7) riding high as a 'war-time president'.
All that to say....Trump will lose more than Biden will win.
Alan
Respectfully, I'd love to take that bet with you Alan. Trump has more than 47% support right now...believe it or not. You can't cherry pick stats for your side only.
He has already flipped more states than you realize...and I don't watch Fox or CNN or MSNBC. Virginia, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc...people are tired of high prices on everything. BIden has to own it, period.
There's a stats video with Biden's lies during the debate. They all lie, but BIden gets a pass every time...but not now, libs are tired of him.
Trump wasn't a dictator in 2016 nor will he be in 2024. Yes, he's going to win Alan, going away.
Trump’s agenda if passed would drive up inflation.
Trump tried to prevent the transfer of power. we were lucky some Republicans acted as they did to prevent Trump’s plans. I don’t want to put Trump in the same siting the future.
I want Biden to step down. but if he doesn’t I will still vote for him. Anyone is better than Trump.
I am no fan of Harris but would vote for her over Trump.
None of them are moderate. Joe Manchin was the last moderate Democrat on the national scene and he's been thrown out of the party.
Biden won in 2020, in part, because he pretended he was a moderate. He has NOT governed as a moderate.
You're projecting.
Trump has "extreme views" for agreeing with Barack Obama and Bill Clinton on the need for border security?
The fact that you think the Newsom's and Harris's and Buttigieg's of the world are "moderate" means you are WAAAY to the left of center.
Besides Trump saying so, what makes you think Biden is extreme? Trump considers anyone that doesn’t agree with him to be his enemy and has no interest in compromise. Biden was going to approve a bill that would further supported border security, and the Republican senators agreed with it, but Trump shot it down.
What radical changes are you expecting should Newsom or Harris win?
Biden has thrown the border wide open and has been weaponizing the DoJ to persecute his political opponents.
The "border bill" you're speaking about was going to steal over $100 BILLION from the US tax payers and 90% of the money was going to be sent to Ukraine and Israel. What do Ukraine and Israel have to do with the US border?
California is such a leftist hell hole it's bleeding population. Newsom has gutted the middle class in California and if you gave that slimy lying weasel a chance he'd do the same things nationally he did to destroy California.
Trump’s agenda if passed would drive up inflation.
Trump tried to prevent the transfer of power. we were lucky some Republicans acted as they did to prevent Trump’s plans. I don’t want to put Trump in the same siting the future.
I want Biden to step down. but if he doesn’t I will still vote for him. Anyone is better than Trump.
I am no fan of Harris but would vote for her over Trump.
You forget that the winner does not need 51% or even 50%. The winner can have even less votes and still 'win'.
The ONLY way Biden drops out is if Trumps drop out.
It was one debate. Chill out. Both of these dudes are mentally impaired.
Trump had never had more than 47% of the vote. He lost 46.8 to 51.3 in 2020 and he 'won' in 2016 with 46.1 to 48.2 for Hillary.
He does not have more support in 2024 than in 2020.
Since Bush in '88 only Obama has won with 51%+. Bush '04 even has over 50% (50.7) riding high as a 'war-time president'.
All that to say....Trump will lose more than Biden will win.
Alan
Respectfully, I'd love to take that bet with you Alan. Trump has more than 47% support right now...believe it or not. You can't cherry pick stats for your side only.
He has already flipped more states than you realize...and I don't watch Fox or CNN or MSNBC. Virginia, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc...people are tired of high prices on everything. BIden has to own it, period.
There's a stats video with Biden's lies during the debate. They all lie, but BIden gets a pass every time...but not now, libs are tired of him.
Trump wasn't a dictator in 2016 nor will he be in 2024. Yes, he's going to win Alan, going away.
These people don't live in reality. This is why they were all absolutely shocked to find out that Biden was old and incapable at the debate. Their media lies to them 24/7 because their objective is to keep people in the cult not to tell the truth.
There won’t be primaries. If Biden steps aside, there will be a free for all for his delegates, at the convention. If Biden refuses to do so, it will be next to impossible to prevent him from being the nominee.
Trump is a terrible candidate and the only thing that gives him a chance of winning is concerns over Biden’s mental acuity. There are many democrat senators and governors that could beat him.
Kamala couldn't get .5% of the vote in the 2020 Democratic primary.
Democrats don't even like her she won't do well with independents.
None of the hypocritical COVID lockdown candidates like Whitmer or Newsom will do well with independents.
The democrats have shifted so far to the left none of their candidates are electable even with Donald Trump as the opponent.
Correct!
The only dem who is moderate is Manchin but he became an independent.
Trump’s agenda if passed would drive up inflation.
Trump tried to prevent the transfer of power. we were lucky some Republicans acted as they did to prevent Trump’s plans. I don’t want to put Trump in the same siting the future.
I want Biden to step down. but if he doesn’t I will still vote for him. Anyone is better than Trump.
I am no fan of Harris but would vote for her over Trump.
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