I think it's scandalous that Hunter Biden is running for POTUS!!!
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genuine lib here wrote:
I think it's scandalous that Hunter Biden is running for POTUS!!!
Ha ha, but it is actually scandalous that he has a security clearance and advises his father.
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Druthers are afforded to others wrote:
genuine lib here wrote:
I think it's scandalous that Hunter Biden is running for POTUS!!!
Ha ha, but it is actually scandalous that he has a security clearance and advises his father.
How scandalous is that Ivanka did not have a security clearance and advised her father?
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Dutch Sprinter wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't he be entitled to a jury of his peers? And even one Trump conspiracy member on the jury would result in a hung trial?
In a trial a juror can't acquit because they think Biden (or whomever) is worse. The jurors only answer the question of whether or not he is guilty of the charges. The first 31 are essentially possession of specific documents that were in his possession, a fact that no one here is arguing.
The DOJ presumably has security footage backing up the charges of Nauta moving boxes, so they'll probably get him in a plea deal to testify against Trump, and the indictment has statements suggesting that some of his lawyers have flipped.
I don't see a friendly juror saving him if this goes to trial.
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Druthers are afforded to others wrote:
genuine lib here wrote:
I think it's scandalous that Hunter Biden is running for POTUS!!!
Ha ha, but it is actually scandalous that he has a security clearance and advises his father.
Yeah, they totally just give out security clearances as long as someone in power leans on them hard enough. Just ask Jared Kushner.
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Department of offense wrote:
What’s more likely: a vast deep state conspiracy or a guy who use to be in the casino / hotel business did a crime?
Oh, now Mister smarty-pants is prolly gonna invoke Occam’s Razor!
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Well, ok then wrote:
Dutch Sprinter wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't he be entitled to a jury of his peers? And even one Trump conspiracy member on the jury would result in a hung trial?
In a trial a juror can't acquit because they think Biden (or whomever) is worse. The jurors only answer the question of whether or not he is guilty of the charges. The first 31 are essentially possession of specific documents that were in his possession, a fact that no one here is arguing.
The DOJ presumably has security footage backing up the charges of Nauta moving boxes, so they'll probably get him in a plea deal to testify against Trump, and the indictment has statements suggesting that some of his lawyers have flipped.
I don't see a friendly juror saving him if this goes to trial.
I wish that was the case. But a good defense could cast doubt that what Trump did was wrong or immoral, or that other presidents have done it. It just takes 1 juror, right?
You'd have to have 12 members who haven't voted in any of the last three elections. Everyone else is biased.
I want nothing more than for him to go to prison. This is at the bottom of terrible things he has done in his life. And I'd be happy if Joe Biden joined him in a cell.
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genuine lib here wrote:
I think it's scandalous that Hunter Biden is running for POTUS!!!
https://twitter.com/kanekoathegreat/status/1667283012881649664?s=61
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Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Are you alright?
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Ghost of Igloi wrote:
So this is your logical-intellectual take on this? Hey, by all means, tell me how Clinton, Pence, Biden, and any others should be prosecuted according to the merits of the case, Tell me how a standard of objectivity and holding power to account will improve our democracy.
but unless it’s even-handed, serious, and rational, I’ll take sh*tposting for sh*tposting and other k8nds of foolishness for foolishness. And disingenuousness for the garbage it is.
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Yup yup wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
So this is your logical-intellectual take on this? Hey, by all means, tell me how Clinton, Pence, Biden, and any others should be prosecuted according to the merits of the case, Tell me how a standard of objectivity and holding power to account will improve our democracy.
but unless it’s even-handed, serious, and rational, I’ll take sh*tposting for sh*tposting and other k8nds of foolishness for foolishness. And disingenuousness for the garbage it is.
Why in the world would I waste time fueling your mental masturbations? Anyone with open eyes can see the moral and fiscal decline in this Country. Unbelievable in such a short period of time. Babylon Bee does a great job poking fun at the ridiculousness you address as if you are a college freshman political science lecturer.
https://twitter.com/thebabylonbee/status/1667141895619764224?s=61
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Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Yup yup wrote:
So this is your logical-intellectual take on this? Hey, by all means, tell me how Clinton, Pence, Biden, and any others should be prosecuted according to the merits of the case, Tell me how a standard of objectivity and holding power to account will improve our democracy.
but unless it’s even-handed, serious, and rational, I’ll take sh*tposting for sh*tposting and other k8nds of foolishness for foolishness. And disingenuousness for the garbage it is.
Why in the world would I waste time fueling your mental masturbations? Anyone with open eyes can see the moral and fiscal decline in this Country. Unbelievable in such a short period of time. Babylon Bee does a great job poking fun at the ridiculousness you address as if you are a college freshman political science lecturer.
Igloi, you are speaking to someone who is not American, be careful of having an opinion they disagree with. It's the political prison era now. this rat will hunt you down and report you to government authorities,
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If you ever thought you could not have less respect for Trump, I recommend you read the indictment.
It will take you to a new place.
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Noyankee wrote:
You are looking foolish. A lot of those words are Trump's words and -- at least in one case -- those words are on tape. In other cases, they are from his own attorney's notes and witness interviews.
Trump himself on national TV said that he kept documents after he was told to surrender them and moved them around the compound (see interview with Sean Hannity a couple of months ago).
Moreover, he wasn't hounded into committing crimes. He consciously and willingly committed them. Ironically, you can find him on video from 2016 bragging about his his administration will follow the laws about confidential documents.
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Right wing ralphie wrote:
If you ever thought you could not have less respect for Trump, I recommend you read the indictment.
It will take you to a new place.
im really not concerned with what some anti trump political prosecutor has to say. they began fabricating evidence to arrest this American since 2016. There is no reason to believe this is any different and, the fact that they make this move during the political primaries to the , BY FAR, leading opposition candidate says all anyone needs to hear. I think you should get off the communist train because this stuff is nonsense and hardly important enough to transfer this country to a one party rule because losers are afraid of competition. trump will be fine and will most likely be President shortly regardless of what rats try to bring him down. that man could recommend anyone from deaths row and they have about 80,000,000 votes and counting. this isnt about trump. this is about losers imposing idealogy on others thru force and it didnt start just now. grow up, get some b*lls and dont worry about voting. though its too late for you. i get it. voting is not your thing
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Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Great move of Trump. 4 dimensional chess. Once he is in prison Hunter Biden can be President as well.
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