Probably most young men have social skills that are way below average compared to the social skills their parents developed when they were their age. Many reasons for this but most of it is the digital age, lack of interpersonal in person skills due to Covid etc. As a result many Young men in today’s generation do not take rejection well and after one coffee date gone bad fall into a deep depression.
Probably most young men have social skills that are way below average compared to the social skills their parents developed when they were their age. Many reasons for this but most of it is the digital age, lack of interpersonal in person skills due to Covid etc. As a result many Young men in today’s generation do not take rejection well and after one coffee date gone bad fall into a deep depression.
Men are also taught they need to be tough with emotions and not cry. So if troubles with women followed by depression set in, they have nowhere to turn, especially if there’s no therapist. Young Men inexperienced with in person social encounters these days also get flooded with social media of successful influencers renting luxury cars with women around them and other BS, so they only feel all the more terrible about themselves when a few dates go badly.
Women have it hard too because body image and snapshot photo appearance on social media is everywhere and everything. It’s to the point they’ll drive somewhere with nice scenery to pose for photoshoots. The main problem that they find with dating is that the cheap most common dating apps they have are of hookup type (eg tinder) and they get so inundated with messages from horny men that the only men they respond to are usually either the most attractive front page photo of the guy and/or the super likes assuming it’s tinder.
If you use terms like "red pill" or "blue pill" it isn't your looks or height that keep you from getting a woman, it is your incel personality. You are just watching people shill you videos that prove your own biases.
Dating is easy, and I mean easy, regardless of height or looks (baring deformity or being a dwarf) if you have personality. The fattest and ugliest people I know are all married with children. I'm talking obese and slapped in the face with the ugly stick. They can all have a discussion though and while none of them are dating models most of their wives are around average.
If people put the amount of effort into self improvement as they do into watching BS incel videos online you'd be married by now.
Super jacked at the gym is also not necessarily a plus. Having a good physique is a plus but being able to bench 3 times your body weight and having no neck isn't a plus in the attractiveness category.
Probably most young men have social skills that are way below average compared to the social skills their parents developed when they were their age. Many reasons for this but most of it is the digital age, lack of interpersonal in person skills due to Covid etc. As a result many Young men in today’s generation do not take rejection well and after one coffee date gone bad fall into a deep depression.
you couldn't be more wrong. it's about looks. most men are ugly.
the only solution to this problem is the government paying men plastic surgeries and PE surgeries to make men more attractive to women.
Personality, therapy, haircut, fashion, dancing, social skills... this is all cope.
It's all about looks. If they were attractive women would want them.
I know it's hard for you guys to accept the facts and the data tha proves these facts but it's real.
Beg to differ. My college gf was a virgin, until the day (ok night)we got married the year after graduation. It was freaking tremendous. We have 3 awesome kids. It’s really cool to be married to your best friend who is also a smoking hot chick and do life together. This can be done.
This guy is a total creep and not at all what is meant when someone says "be confident". Walking up to strange women on the street and immediately telling them they're good looking is not going to work with the vast majority of women. Frankly shocked it worked with anyone at all.
Then what is going to work with cold approach?
Most everyone here does nothing but criticize normies who are having trouble with getting women. But yet they're not giving any helpful advice or understanding other than passing judgment & acting all cynical.
Honestly, I think there's a bunch of simps here in undesirable relationships (afraid of being single) & also probably a fair number of closet incels that aren't man enough to admit it.
Here is one example that worked for me and since there has been a lot of talk about women and gyms I'll use that as an example.
There was a very attractive woman (I was 27, she was 25) at my gym. We worked out around the same time and had some ransom conversations. Nothing big, say hi, talk about the song playing, local news, that kind of stuff. After a few months she was wearing an Army shirt. I asked if she was in the Army and she did her 4 years and got out. She was a nurse and used the Army to pay for school and was now working at a nearby hospital. I had just been to that hospital because a friend of mine had a baby so we struck up a conversation. During it she had mentioned working with cancer charities and I had just finished fundraising for a cancer event.
I let her know when that event was if she wanted to come up and she did. At that event I asked her out after. We went on a few dates over the coming months and while it didn't work out long term that is exactly how you turn a conversation into a date. You don't walk up to them on the street with a camera and tell them they are hot. You learn to have conversations that you can naturally transition to shared interests and then go from there.
This is not by any stretch of the imagination a difficult task.
I was feeling pretty down about myself today until i perused this thread. 😳 Even if some of the losers on here are trolling, the effort they're putting into their incel characters is disturbing and I world encourage them to seek therapy. Yikes.
Every dude is 6 months in the gym and a solid haircut away from being at least a 6 out of 10. The problem is not your physical appearance, it's your obsession with self-pity and niche corners of the internet designed to exploit struggling men for profit. Fellas on this thread need to get unhooked from this blue pill, red pill, black pill nonsense. It's all a self-fulfilling prophecy.
That's not true & completely "red pill." Yes...for some guys gym & looks maxing can move up one up to a 6 or even 7. For other guys, it's not that simple. I'm a very short man at a tad under 5-6. I'm below average looking & I'm not rich earning well under 6 figures. I'm a 4 at best and that includes a muscular, aesthetic physique that I've developed from years of bodybuilding competition (and a solid haircut. Lol). I would need some plastic surgery & a leg-lengthening procedure to move up to a 6 & become more attractive to women. This is called "black pill" reality - realizing what my limitations are & accepting the consequences.
Black pillers all think this way but yet get a bad reputation of being lazy, unmotivated & not wanted to improve on their physical appearance or personality.
In this black bill podcast; 6-3, muscle man, multi-millionaire, "Chad" looking John Sonmez - a world-renowned life improvement coach, (Bull Dog Mindset) discusses & agrees with the black pill panelists that looks & height is most important. He agrees that below-average looking short men, for example, are having a very difficult time in today's dating world. It's worth a listen & it'll give you a different perspective on just difficult it is for guys like me. If you really watch it - you'll hold empathy & a thorough understanding for guys like us instead of passing judgment on us (John's appearance starts at 47 mins into the video).
Here is one example that worked for me and since there has been a lot of talk about women and gyms I'll use that as an example.
There was a very attractive woman (I was 27, she was 25) at my gym. We worked out around the same time and had some ransom conversations. Nothing big, say hi, talk about the song playing, local news, that kind of stuff. After a few months she was wearing an Army shirt. I asked if she was in the Army and she did her 4 years and got out. She was a nurse and used the Army to pay for school and was now working at a nearby hospital. I had just been to that hospital because a friend of mine had a baby so we struck up a conversation. During it she had mentioned working with cancer charities and I had just finished fundraising for a cancer event.
I let her know when that event was if she wanted to come up and she did. At that event I asked her out after. We went on a few dates over the coming months and while it didn't work out long term that is exactly how you turn a conversation into a date. You don't walk up to them on the street with a camera and tell them they are hot. You learn to have conversations that you can naturally transition to shared interests and then go from there.
This is not by any stretch of the imagination a difficult task.
...Now they're going to think about kidnapping as a dating strategy, because your ransom conversations (more personal than just ransom notes, I suppose) worked.
There are fewer men than women in this country. Unless you're literally Ronnie J. McGorvey this is not rocket science. Stop staring at your phone, get off this board, lay off the video games, shower, clean up your diet, cut your hair, don't look like a slob, get involved with some sort of event/s. Leave the basement now and then.
Beg to differ. My college gf was a virgin, until the day (ok night)we got married the year after graduation. It was freaking tremendous. We have 3 awesome kids. It’s really cool to be married to your best friend who is also a smoking hot chick and do life together. This can be done.
Who are these people who are married to their best friend? Your best friend and spouse should be separate people. When you need help or divorce, now you've lost your spouse AND best friend.
The alure of the whole "Pill" worldview is that it absolves the disciple of any and all responsibility. You're lonely because you're short, or ugly, or some other reason beyond your control. Don't bother working out or developing a personality, you are cursed by circumstance. Turn away from the world and accept your fate.
One of my best friends in College was under 5-6, and he pulled just fine.
One of my best friends in High School was under 5-4, and he pulled too.
The alure of the whole "Pill" worldview is that it absolves the disciple of any and all responsibility. You're lonely because you're short, or ugly, or some other reason beyond your control. Don't bother working out or developing a personality, you are cursed by circumstance. Turn away from the world and accept your fate.
One of my best friends in College was under 5-6, and he pulled just fine.
One of my best friends in High School was under 5-4, and he pulled too.
That's not true & completely "red pill." Yes...for some guys gym & looks maxing can move up one up to a 6 or even 7. For other guys, it's not that simple. I'm a very short man at a tad under 5-6. I'm below average looking & I'm not rich earning well under 6 figures. I'm a 4 at best and that includes a muscular, aesthetic physique that I've developed from years of bodybuilding competition (and a solid haircut. Lol). I would need some plastic surgery & a leg-lengthening procedure to move up to a 6 & become more attractive to women. This is called "black pill" reality - realizing what my limitations are & accepting the consequences.
Black pillers all think this way but yet get a bad reputation of being lazy, unmotivated & not wanted to improve on their physical appearance or personality.
In this black bill podcast; 6-3, muscle man, multi-millionaire, "Chad" looking John Sonmez - a world-renowned life improvement coach, (Bull Dog Mindset) discusses & agrees with the black pill panelists that looks & height is most important. He agrees that below-average looking short men, for example, are having a very difficult time in today's dating world. It's worth a listen & it'll give you a different perspective on just difficult it is for guys like me. If you really watch it - you'll hold empathy & a thorough understanding for guys like us instead of passing judgment on us (John's appearance starts at 47 mins into the video).
As dating has become harder and harder for the modern day man, there has a been a rise in different strategies and approach to dating. There are three specif...
The alure of the whole "Pill" worldview is that it absolves the disciple of any and all responsibility. You're lonely because you're short, or ugly, or some other reason beyond your control. Don't bother working out or developing a personality, you are cursed by circumstance. Turn away from the world and accept your fate.
One of my best friends in College was under 5-6, and he pulled just fine.
One of my best friends in High School was under 5-4, and he pulled too.
The whole idea behind Red Pill was about the idea of male-female sexual dynamics being different than what many in society were led to believe. That women were more attracted to competent, confident men of relative social status and not the "nice, romantic" types that Hollywood and society portrayed. There was no prescription about how men should feel about or view women because of this, but the smart ones would work to change their behavior upon learning the new rules of the game. Some guys chose to take the path of victimhood and become resentful of women over this, and that is part of why "the red pill" has gotten such a bad name.
I think that the idea behind Red Pill is interesting and has a lot of merits. I think that some men take it to the extreme and become resentful of women. Still, overall, it is a positive movement. I think it is important for men to learn about the different ways women are attracted to them and change their behavior accordingly. I think the Red Pill can help men be more successful with women and have healthier relationships. Using it, I met my dream girl on https://www.uadreams.com/, and now we are engaged. So there is a lot of information to study.
Anyone else find it incredible that bots scan this board to post links to random redpill sites?
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