The great Russell Wilson

Broncos will keep Wilson around. The problem is with the coach. When Hacket gets fired they are going to find a coach that will use Wilson.

Hacket is just in over his head. Classic dumb white guy failing up because his dad was a coach (Dear LR whiners, I mention race because this seems to happen largely to white guys).

I have hated this hire all along. The Broncos have making coachable mistakes all year and losing close games.

Wilson will be a top 10 QB next year. Mark my words.

You're wrong. Most NFL quarterbacks don't do well past their 33rd birthday. Running quarterbacks most often don't do well past 33 birthday. Sub-5'11" 33 year old running quarterbacks usually don't do well past their 33 birthday.

I don't know how trustworthy this source is, but found this interesting. They are reporting that Wilson's play has been so dismal that the Broncos are asking for their money back.

essentiallysports.com

Russell Wilson Asked to Return His $245 Million Contract to Denver Broncos After Another Loss

@https://twitter.com/s_Rivu

Denver Broncos QB Russell Wilson should give back some of his contract fortunes for the Broncos to find some talent, according to Denver Post.

Link:www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-news-rus...

Last season Wilson had another Russell Wilson season, great TD/INT ratio, great comp %, great passer rating and another pro bowl, his 9th in his first 10 seasons, who does that, yep.....nobody. If we look at his stats we can see that no other QB was more impressive and nobody had won more games in their first 10 seasons than Russell Wilson. His highlights viseo as good as it gets with one great play after another. So where was any hint of what we are seeing this season? There wasn't one that is why he got all that $$$$.

I have to believe this move to Denver is what isn't right here, the guy was simply playing to good to all of a sudden go.....KAPLUNK...like this. I also can't believer if he were still in Seattle he'd be putting up better numbers than Geno Smith, he misses Lockett/Metcalf

Something just isn't right about this, and that should be very obvious.

I don't know if the coach gets fired, but there's clearly something not right with this relationship or the organization in general.

I don't believe Wilson has suddenly dropped that far, just as I don't believe Aaron Rodgers has.

I anticipate a rebound season for Wilson. Rodgers is far closer to the magical 39 year old drop off that hits nearly every QB except Brady and Favre (one season).

Give a point for....

16 game seasons

Pro Bowls

65 and better comp%

4000 yards passing

30 or more TD's/10 or less INT's

100 or more passer rating

400 or more rushing yards

for each of his first 10 seasons, what he scores cannot be matched or bettered by anyone, not Slinglin' Sammy not Otto, not Johnny U, not frantic Fran, not Montana, Marino, Favre, Peyton. Rodgers THE GOAT. Wilson stands alone.

Today I learned Semihaze's grandfather posts on LRC.

That little game I mentioned of giving a point for all that, Wilson scored 50 points Tom Brady 17.

That's not a useful comparison. RW started as soon as he got to Seattle. Most of his peers did not. Some had to wait years before they became starters -- Rodgers threw 59 passes his first 3 years in the league. RW threw 1,250.

Given that difference, it's no surprise RW had more impressive numbers than AR. But those differences don't tell us anything about how RW stacks up to AR. They just tell us that Brett Favre was better than Tarvaris Jackson.

RW is a great QB. He doesn't need bogus comparisons to prove that.

The beauty of this is Wilson did walk right in and take over and then preceded to put up the best first 10 seasons we have ever seen, the wins, the starts, comp%, 4000 yard seasons, TD/INT ratio, passer rating, rushing yards, pro bowls, nobody did it better, simply a fact.

His last season at Wisconsin he sets the all time passing efficency record for a season, his rookie NFL season he ties the rookie TD record at 26 (Peyton)

A great QB, so what we are seeing now a real....???????

What is the over/under, R Wilson's current 40 yard dash? Some of you overly excited R Wilson fanatics aren't going like this. I estimate R Wilson is a 4.725 40 yard dash guy as measured by NFL standards. He played for NC State in 2007. I recall his speed and R Wilson's ability to throw then. 4.725 is still good speed for a NFL QB. R Wilson has had, in his mind too many hits. R Wilson won't run as often as he used to. At 5'10 1/2", R Wilson isn't going to drop back five steps and pick defenses a part from the pocket. Find the next 21 year old R Wilson 2.0 in the college draft. He can't run as well as he did during his NC State years so it's time to move on. Go ahead and fire the coach, the next coach isn't going to want a washed up 5'10-something QB.

Sounds like he is past his prime.

There is a theory out there that he's still not physcally ok, his shoulder worst off than he is letting on as is his hamstring. That would explain this "SUDDEN" slump in his game. There is something just not right here that should be real obvious and 33 isn't......past your prime.

Can't ignore this...

Wilson had a platelet-rich plasma (PRP) injection to help a strained latissimus dorsi in his right shoulder last Friday. The shoulder injury is the same one Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott sustained in 2021, which didn’t allow him to throw for four weeks.
Wilson, though, kept throwing and is apparently on pace to not miss any time whatsoever.

You simply don't go from where he was to where he is now without something just not right.

As has been pointed out several times already, what we are seeing is the decline of a great but unique talent.

Those who want to dig deeper into what made Russ, Russ, and why he isn't that guy anymore, might enjoy this article. It argues that Wilson succeeded because his talent allowed him to do some things -- scramble, throw accurately anywhere on the field, and find a way to make plays -- better than any other QB.

In fact, Wilson's talents were so unworldly he succeeded despite his obvious shortcomings -- he can't/won't/doesn't throw to the middle of the field, he holds the ball too long, and so on. But recently, as Wilson has gotten older, fatter and slower, his skills have begun to decline and his deficits have become more obvious. The Seattle coaches were able to compensate for these problems. Hackett, not so much.

The real reason to look at the article are the graphs. They go behind the topline numbers that Deno quotes to look at the specific skills that made Russ, Russ. The graphs show clearly how those skills have declined over the last four seasons. (The heat maps showing which parts of the field he targets are especially telling.)

(The follow up article, written in the last few days, is also worth a lo.)

It's a combination of injury, coaching, lack of a line and injuries to other players [both tackles and a center, one receiver and our RB1 (who has performed decently) was a street free agent after the start of the year]. That being said, the Commanders are winning with Taylor Heineke, and SFs rookie, Mr Irrelevant, had as many TD passes in a game as Russell Wilson has had in a single game all season. With the record what it is, they should probably rest him for the rest of the year once the playoffs are officially off the table. The Broncos are pretty much joined at the hip for this season and the three thereafter, so they better get him ship shape and get a coach that can optimize his skill set properly in the off season. The problem with Hackett is he is trying to coach Wilson like he is Rodgers. They need to look at old film of Wilson and see how Seattle used him. Because he is really too short to stand back and be a pocket passer. They need to shift the pocket and get him out on bootlegs.

Broncos better today with Rypien at QB.

This hasn't aged well...

For a NFL historian you have forgotten more than you remember. How about McNabb, Bledsoe, Newton and a billion more from earlier eras. Not everybody ages like Favre, Rogers and Brady(who may be toast himself).