gorun wrote:
If you payed attention to the way valby looked at tuohy after both the acc championship and ncaa championship races valby looked shocked and salty!!
you must mean the east regional, as FL is in SEC.
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Looks like this lineup is shaping up as planned. However, Starliper must be injured or at least slightly like Steelman last year. If she is injured it could be game over for NC State. They took the two lowest sticks and it ended in a tie?!?!?!
Any news on Starliper or Shaw?
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Blank231 wrote:
Any news on Starliper or Shaw?
And Born from Oklahoma state
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Yes fasttuohy, i was supposed to say regionals! 👍
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*east regionals! Lol
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FastTuohy wrote:
NC St/NM - 5 strong runners on both teams, looks close on paper (assumes good health of course). These 2 seem much better than anyone other teams. Both teams could have 5 in top 30.
OSU - some ifs but if they work out seem likely for podium esp on home course. The last hill may kill some other teams weakness at #4 and 5 runners like 2020.
NAU/Colorado/ND/Alabama/Washington/BYU - some ifs on each team, esp at #4 and 5 but seem most likely to fight it out for 4-9 place. Whoever finds the best depth will prevail, esp Alabama and BYU.
Oregon State/Utah Valley/Villanova/UNC/Or St/Ole Miss/Arkansas - much less clarity but most potential
Top 7 individuals - Chelangat, Tuohy, Valby, McCabe, Roe, Chmiel, Gregory and right behind them a block of 20 including 3 more NC St and all 5 NM. For now, Van Camp, Cook and Hutchins in that block for those who wonder.
Time to refresh the preseason projections.
NC St and NM look even closer than I thought
OSU and now AL seem close but neither has shown the 5th runner to close gap with top 2
NAU/ND/BYU along with Stanford seem next bunch - Stanford getting Dudek all the way back and better back end than I thought.
CO/WA/OR St a little weaker than I thought and Georgetown emerging much better.
Top 7 won't include Gregory (no eligibility) and are getting joined by some like Cook, Chebet, Stearns. Conference meets may help sort out.
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Insanity wrote:
Is this a thread for delusional people? Are you guys all posting from some mental institution somewhere?
NC State will win the next two years and they will win by an incredibly big margin both years!!! It won't be close it won't be a contest!!!
well I guess we will see where the insanity lies
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speaking of possible insanity somehow NM only showed Gordon enough on Saturday to rank them 3rd, with OSU 2nd.
Yet he says NM will have 5 in top 35, and OSU's 5th will be 128!!!
and NC State will win by 60
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FastTuohy wrote:
speaking of possible insanity somehow NM only showed Gordon enough on Saturday to rank them 3rd, with OSU 2nd.
Yet he says NM will have 5 in top 35, and OSU's 5th will be 128!!!
and NC State will win by 60
Going to listen to it now. Thanks for sharing!
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FastTuohy wrote:
speaking of possible insanity somehow NM only showed Gordon enough on Saturday to rank them 3rd, with OSU 2nd.
Yet he says NM will have 5 in top 35, and OSU's 5th will be 128!!!
and NC State will win by 60
Gordon’s reasoning makes sense. Even with a 12 second phenomenal spread for NM women, it’s not as meaningful without a strong low stick (like they had in their winning years with Kelati, etc.).
However, I do think it’ll be a lot closer than 60 points between 1st and 2nd team (based on what we’ve actually seen thus far).
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TuohyFan wrote:
FastTuohy wrote:
speaking of possible insanity somehow NM only showed Gordon enough on Saturday to rank them 3rd, with OSU 2nd.
Yet he says NM will have 5 in top 35, and OSU's 5th will be 128!!!
and NC State will win by 60
Gordon’s reasoning makes sense. Even with a 12 second phenomenal spread for NM women, it’s not as meaningful without a strong low stick (like they had in their winning years with Kelati, etc.).
However, I do think it’ll be a lot closer than 60 points between 1st and 2nd team (based on what we’ve actually seen thus far).
My math says with OSU's 5th at 127 and 4th at 38 (his ranks) that is 165 right there. Add ~20 for top 3 and I get 185. 5 NM ladies at say 30 on average is 150. 35 avg would be 175. Of course despite saying NM would have 5 in top 35 his ranking shows Thorner at 63 (she was 25th at Nuttycombe). He has the first 4 at 23/24/32/36. So maybe he mispoke, but I also think he has Thorner badly misranked. 25th at Nuttycombe should be AA.
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I’m thinking Oklahoma and New Mexico’s chances are getting better and better with each race we see. I know some folks here said early on that NC State is not a lock, and with each race that’s gone on, more of these other teams’ firepower is showing. I’m incredibly impressed with OSU’s top-3…
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I’m thinking Oklahoma and New Mexico’s chances are getting better and better with each race we see. I know some folks here said early on that NC State is not a lock, and with each race that’s gone on, more of these other teams’ firepower is showing. I’m incredibly impressed with OSU’s top-3…
I can see OSU getting 3 in before NM gets their 1st in, but I see NM scoring around 100 with 5 AA, and OSU more like 140 (with over 100 of it from 4th and 5th runners). I also think NC St can be less than 140 with their Nuttycombe lineup. If OSU shows a 5th that could be AA I will change my guess. NM is consistent with a 10-15 second spread, and the top has gotten higher up (8th at Nuttycombe) - which could still be ~15th or so at Nationals even with the OSU trio and AL trio.
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FastTuohy wrote:
I’m thinking Oklahoma and New Mexico’s chances are getting better and better with each race we see. I know some folks here said early on that NC State is not a lock, and with each race that’s gone on, more of these other teams’ firepower is showing. I’m incredibly impressed with OSU’s top-3…
Ok state pre-nats winner Billa Jepkirui ran faster than Cook did at the Jamboree. That team is looking strong
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FastTuohy wrote:
I wish all the coaches would do a weekly thought like this.
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Blank231 wrote:
Ok state pre-nats winner Billa Jepkirui ran faster than Cook did at the Jamboree. That team is looking strong
ABSOLUTELY agree.
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Blank231 wrote:
FastTuohy wrote:
I’m thinking Oklahoma and New Mexico’s chances are getting better and better with each race we see. I know some folks here said early on that NC State is not a lock, and with each race that’s gone on, more of these other teams’ firepower is showing. I’m incredibly impressed with OSU’s top-3…
Ok state pre-nats winner Billa Jepkirui ran faster than Cook did at the Jamboree. That team is looking strong
A very strong top 3 (ditto for AL)....I think both NC St (w full lineup) and NM can get their 5 in before OSU's 4th and there is a big gap back to their 5th until proven otherwise.
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