If this was boxing then Kerr wouldn't even be in the conversation for a championship fight, because he thinks competing on the circuit like in the European championships is beneath him and demands a championship fight despite having a single relevant championship title, the World championship win, to his name, across his entire career. And he would rather prioritize beating up a diluted field in a cash grab league, the GST, than competing on the circuit where the best currently active runner is competing.
It was in fact a good analogy from Army, just not in the way he thought.
That is not an actual quote. I am interested in what he said.
And if I try to look for it in the thread I just find pages on pages with off topic discussions by a poster called "justacuriousdude" and another called "armstronglivs" amongst others.
That is not an actual quote. I am interested in what he said.
Jakob Ingebrigtsen wrote:
“I am a half-marathon man. That’s where I am best. I get a bit worse the further I do down in distance. At 10k I’m a bit worse, and at 5k I’m a bit worse again, and then the same for the 1,500m. I’m an endurance athlete. The 1,500m is my worst event.”
The straight-talking Norwegian on his rival Josh Kerr, becoming the best of all time and why the 1,500m — in which he’s the Olympic champion — is his worst event
The truth really stings you. Just declare your true feelings for Jakob and your bizarre feelings of betrayal. Put them out in the open and you’ll feel so relieved.
Don’t get why he feels the need to respond to anything his competitors say even if it has nothing to do with him. Very odd he said that. Continues to do everything possible to turn people off as fans of his
I think it's related to this quote from the interview re: the hype of the men's 1500m final in Paris and how his trash talking with Jakob contributed to it:
“I feel like I’m a massive reason why that race was as hyped up as it was, and I feel a great amount of responsibility for that,” says Kerr. “I know the other 1500m guys are pretty thankful for how big a stage we made that. I think we put on a show. We made people care about our sport.”
I said in another thread that Kerr is similar to Noah Lyles in that they deliberately say and do things to generate buzz about the sport, and they are willing to take on the villain role to do it. His comments about putting on a show and making people care about the sport remind me of what Lyles tweeted last summer about his Olympic performances: "I hope everyone enjoyed the show. Whether you were rooting for me or against me, you have to admit you watched, didn't you?"
Notice how Kerr went from “I” and “me” in his bs posts to “we” after Hocker mowed him down Paris. Hocker saved us from an unbearable flood of “me, me, me” garbage torrent had Kerr won.
That is not an actual quote. I am interested in what he said.
Jakob Ingebrigtsen wrote:
“I am a half-marathon man. That’s where I am best. I get a bit worse the further I do down in distance. At 10k I’m a bit worse, and at 5k I’m a bit worse again, and then the same for the 1,500m. I’m an endurance athlete. The 1,500m is my worst event.”
If this was boxing then Kerr wouldn't even be in the conversation for a championship fight, because he thinks competing on the circuit like in the European championships is beneath him and demands a championship fight despite having a single relevant championship title, the World championship win, to his name, across his entire career. And he would rather prioritize beating up a diluted field in a cash grab league, the GST, than competing on the circuit where the best currently active runner is competing.
It was in fact a good analogy from Army, just not in the way he thought.
You don't know anything about boxing. And not much more about running. You only know who you like.
I think we should just end this thread, it is basically:
Josh Kerr says things
Objective fans: interesting comments, here's what he'd need to do to catch Jakob as he'd laid out
Armstrong: He already has, SCOREBOARD
Everyone else: You've forgotten continental titles, 2021-22, and running fast on the circuit with record times
Armstrong: I don't care because of recency bias, SCOREBOARD
Everyone else: These other things matter, and Kerr didn't win Olympic gold and is older
Armstrong: SCOREBOARD
You would do better to confine yourself to expressing your own views rather than mine. You don't actually get those. The discussion could be simplified further:
1. Jakob fans (there are no "objective fans" here) think Ingebrigtsen is better because they like him and they don't like Kerr.
2. Secondly, they think the only valid comparison is career titles when if you put the two athletes on the track now the winner 3 out of 4 times is Kerr. We have seen that in the last couple of years. You can now add other runners to the list of those who can beat Ingebrigtsen. In most sports that is decisive. It sure is on the podium.
3. Kerr currently has the measure of Ingebrigtsen over the Norwegian's main distance. That isn't the same as saying Kerr is undoubtedly the best of his era. He acknowledges he will need more championship titles and records to do that - like the greats of previous eras. That pretty much goes without saying. But in that race he is pulling ahead of Ingebrigtsen, as the last couple of years have shown.
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That is not an actual quote. I am interested in what he said.
Jakob Ingebrigtsen wrote:
“I am a half-marathon man. That’s where I am best. I get a bit worse the further I do down in distance. At 10k I’m a bit worse, and at 5k I’m a bit worse again, and then the same for the 1,500m. I’m an endurance athlete. The 1,500m is my worst event.”
That is the interview and the quote I have previously referred to, where he says he is a "HM man" and that it is his "best" distance and that he gets progressively worse as the distances get shorter, down to the 1500. It is nonsense, of course. The reverse mostly applies. He has so far shown his best distances to be 2k-2miles.
I think we should just end this thread, it is basically:
Josh Kerr says things
Objective fans: interesting comments, here's what he'd need to do to catch Jakob as he'd laid out
Armstrong: He already has, SCOREBOARD
Everyone else: You've forgotten continental titles, 2021-22, and running fast on the circuit with record times
Armstrong: I don't care because of recency bias, SCOREBOARD
Everyone else: These other things matter, and Kerr didn't win Olympic gold and is older
Armstrong: SCOREBOARD
You would do better to confine yourself to expressing your own views rather than mine. You don't actually get those. The discussion could be simplified further:
1. Jakob fans (there are no "objective fans" here) think Ingebrigtsen is better because they like him and they don't like Kerr.
2. Secondly, they think the only valid comparison is career titles when if you put the two athletes on the track now the winner 3 out of 4 times is Kerr. We have seen that in the last couple of years. You can now add other runners to the list of those who can beat Ingebrigtsen. In most sports that is decisive. It sure is on the podium.
3. Kerr currently has the measure of Ingebrigtsen over the Norwegian's main distance. That isn't the same as saying Kerr is undoubtedly the best of his era. He acknowledges he will need more championship titles and records to do that - like the greats of previous eras. That pretty much goes without saying. But in that race he is pulling ahead of Ingebrigtsen, as the last couple of years have shown.
Certainly to be the best runner of your era you have to be the best runner that era.
You would do better to confine yourself to expressing your own views rather than mine. You don't actually get those. The discussion could be simplified further:
1. Jakob fans (there are no "objective fans" here) think Ingebrigtsen is better because they like him and they don't like Kerr.
2. Secondly, they think the only valid comparison is career titles when if you put the two athletes on the track now the winner 3 out of 4 times is Kerr. We have seen that in the last couple of years. You can now add other runners to the list of those who can beat Ingebrigtsen. In most sports that is decisive. It sure is on the podium.
3. Kerr currently has the measure of Ingebrigtsen over the Norwegian's main distance. That isn't the same as saying Kerr is undoubtedly the best of his era. He acknowledges he will need more championship titles and records to do that - like the greats of previous eras. That pretty much goes without saying. But in that race he is pulling ahead of Ingebrigtsen, as the last couple of years have shown.
Certainly to be the best runner of your era you have to be the best runner that era.
That seems to rule out Ingebrigtsen. He keeps losing in his main event.
I think we should just end this thread, it is basically:
Josh Kerr says things
Objective fans: interesting comments, here's what he'd need to do to catch Jakob as he'd laid out
Armstrong: He already has, SCOREBOARD
Everyone else: You've forgotten continental titles, 2021-22, and running fast on the circuit with record times
Armstrong: I don't care because of recency bias, SCOREBOARD
Everyone else: These other things matter, and Kerr didn't win Olympic gold and is older
Armstrong: SCOREBOARD
You would do better to confine yourself to expressing your own views rather than mine. You don't actually get those. The discussion could be simplified further:
1. Jakob fans (there are no "objective fans" here) think Ingebrigtsen is better because they like him and they don't like Kerr.
2. Secondly, they think the only valid comparison is career titles when if you put the two athletes on the track now the winner 3 out of 4 times is Kerr. We have seen that in the last couple of years. You can now add other runners to the list of those who can beat Ingebrigtsen. In most sports that is decisive. It sure is on the podium.
3. Kerr currently has the measure of Ingebrigtsen over the Norwegian's main distance. That isn't the same as saying Kerr is undoubtedly the best of his era. He acknowledges he will need more championship titles and records to do that - like the greats of previous eras. That pretty much goes without saying. But in that race he is pulling ahead of Ingebrigtsen, as the last couple of years have shown.
There are many objective fans here - distance running fans, not Ingebrigtsen fans. This group doesn't include you (neither objective nor fan - not of Ingebrigtsen, not of distance running).
Currently? The last time they raced, Ingebrigtsen finished 1.94 seconds ahead of Kerr. Exactly double the gap which Kerr has had in his three victories against Ingebrigtsen combinded. Their eight meetings over 1500m/Mile before were all won by Ingebrigtsen.
His main distance? You think he is stronger over 1500m/Mile than over 3000m (and also 5000m)? 7:17.55 in a not perfectly paced single attempt. What could he have done over the distance in 2024? 7:16? 7:15? And in his main distance 1500m? You give him 3:25 potential? Unbeaten over 5000m (for you Dumb: not meant in events longer than 5000m) in the last four seasons.
How many times do you have stated that in sport nothing is for granted? 50 times? More often? But it's a certainty for you, that Kerr pulls ahead of Ingebrigtsen (still far behind at the moment) when he has lost their last race by almost two seconds and is three years older? Let's wait and see.
That is not an actual quote. I am interested in what he said.
And if I try to look for it in the thread I just find pages on pages with off topic discussions by a poster called "justacuriousdude" and another called "armstronglivs" amongst others.
Cute. 1. Maybe my narrowing the interview in to “The Times” and Rojo’s post with a link to the correct article helped the poster (who has a Times account) to help you with the quotes. Or maybe you would have gotten them anyway; who knows… Saying that, it’s a little strange you didn’t knew this about Jakob and “better the longer distance” (I thought you understood Norwegian) -Jakob, his brothers, and Gjert have for a long time now stressed the “long distance view”, f.x in Norwegian interviews. But also in English.
2. “Off topic”? -Depends on the eye. F.x -how high percentage of your posts in this current thread titled Kerr is about him, and not primarily about Jakob and Armstronglivs..? Not that I care; I think quality is key…
If this was boxing then Kerr wouldn't even be in the conversation for a championship fight, because he thinks competing on the circuit like in the European championships is beneath him and demands a championship fight despite having a single relevant championship title, the World championship win, to his name, across his entire career. And he would rather prioritize beating up a diluted field in a cash grab league, the GST, than competing on the circuit where the best currently active runner is competing.
It was in fact a good analogy from Army, just not in the way he thought.
You don't know anything about boxing. And not much more about running. You only know who you like.
Then enlighten us about how boxing works, do they get a championship fight for having one high profile win years ago and then spending the rest of the time not fighting compared to the people who are constantly on the circuit and beat up the top contenders?
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