Ultimately, there is no win for releasing the files. Victims names will be exposed, people who innocently crossed paths with Epstein will look like pedophiles, and even more evidence of Trump's involvement will be ignored by maga.
Agree. If Dems/libs think that somehow this will "bring down Trump!"--or MAGA--they really need to think again. I will be amazed if this Epstein kerfuffle is more than a very minor factor in the elections ~18 months from now.
"His people" will continue to vote for President Trump (actually his proxies, of course) to hold back any of the changes to American culture that sogenannte progressives might favor.
Dems/libs will continue to be puzzled by this--by people "voting against their own interests" as they pay for tariffs with a dwindling dollar and lose healthcare (or pay much more for it)--because the D/l crew don't seem to understand what the MAGAs themselves see as their best interests.
Ultimately, there is no win for releasing the files. Victims names will be exposed, people who innocently crossed paths with Epstein will look like pedophiles, and even more evidence of Trump's involvement will be ignored by maga.
Agree. If Dems/libs think that somehow this will "bring down Trump!"--or MAGA--they really need to think again. I will be amazed if this Epstein kerfuffle is more than a very minor factor in the elections ~18 months from now.
"His people" will continue to vote for President Trump (actually his proxies, of course) to hold back any of the changes to American culture that sogenannte progressives might favor.
Dems/libs will continue to be puzzled by this--by people "voting against their own interests" as they pay for tariffs with a dwindling dollar and lose healthcare (or pay much more for it)--because the D/l crew don't seem to understand what the MAGAs themselves see as their best interests.
Maga platform:
1. Unrelenting cult / messiah like adoration of Trump.
2. Hate liberals and anything they like.
3. Hate LGBTQ, with extreme emphasis on T.
4. Hate for immigrants especially if non white people.
So, except for love for Trump who stokes their hate, it is just hate.
Trump is a horrible person who has done horrible things, and his supporters have accepted all of it. I’ve heard many times from what seemed like knowledgeable and unbiased sources that there probably isn’t any particularly damming information about Trump in the Epstein files.
He’s receiving unprecedented negativity from his supporters for not releasing more information. But he’s not doing it.
The only obvious explanation would seem to be that the people who say that there’s not terribly damming information are wrong.
Blanche is a skilled negotiator, skilled attorney. He's not going to start talking bedsheets and missing video minutes right off the bat. He's going to dance around, tell Maxwell he wants to help, try to see what cards she has. Which is apparently a lot, if she can essentially summon the president's lawyer to a sit-down. She's a convicted felon, for Christ's sakes. This is an absolutely unheard of event. Not even the most whacked out conspiratorialist could have dreamt this sh!t up.
This is what is astonishing!
The sitting president of the United States has summoned his corrupt criminal defense attorney to shake down a convicted pedo child trafficker from her prison cell to meet to discuss “what can you do for me that will allow me to help you.?”
And it isn’t even newsworthy anymore. How did we allow ourselves to get here?
1) America is a lot less than we might have thought it was.
2) The GOP partially proved this by having a primary and picking Trump.
3) America then proved it by electing him president.
4) A majority of America then cheered or shrugged in the last 6 months.
Agree. If Dems/libs think that somehow this will "bring down Trump!"--or MAGA--they really need to think again. I will be amazed if this Epstein kerfuffle is more than a very minor factor in the elections ~18 months from now.
"His people" will continue to vote for President Trump (actually his proxies, of course) to hold back any of the changes to American culture that sogenannte progressives might favor.
Dems/libs will continue to be puzzled by this--by people "voting against their own interests" as they pay for tariffs with a dwindling dollar and lose healthcare (or pay much more for it)--because the D/l crew don't seem to understand what the MAGAs themselves see as their best interests.
Maga platform:
1. Unrelenting cult / messiah like adoration of Trump.
2. Hate liberals and anything they like.
3. Hate LGBTQ, with extreme emphasis on T.
4. Hate for immigrants especially if non white people.
So, except for love for Trump who stokes their hate, it is just hate.
No hate here with us conservatives. I did see hate with Stephen Colbert and see hate with the ladies of the View. They spew(ed) hate daily at republicans.
Love immigrants. Are we talking legal immigrants or illegal ones? Like them both. My ancestors were legal immigrants to this great country. We cherished the opportunities afforded to us.
Don't hate any of the LGBTQ. Don't like men playing in women's sports. If you don't see a problem with that - then that is your problem.
Don't adore Trump. Think he is despicable but better than Kamala.
The sitting president of the United States has summoned his corrupt criminal defense attorney to shake down a convicted pedo child trafficker from her prison cell to meet to discuss “what can you do for me that will allow me to help you.?”
And it isn’t even newsworthy anymore. How did we allow ourselves to get here?
1) America is a lot less than we might have thought it was.
2) The GOP partially proved this by having a primary and picking Trump.
3) America then proved it by electing him president.
4) A majority of America then cheered or shrugged in the last 6 months.
And the stock market has taken off to almost like a new all-time high every day.
You need to call me what I am - a conservative. I am no Trumpette. Trump is a disgusting person. But he was better than the alternative.
Maybe you are conservative, but I am will call you what you are. You are a constant Trump defender and your position changes with his daily talking points. You are an angry person who believes that people who disagree with you (the majority in the US) should be punished, laws be danmed.
As has been said a billion times, there is very little “conservative” about Trump or Trumpism. Indeed, much of it is 180 out.
But saying otherwise makes the Trumpers feel good.
1. Unrelenting cult / messiah like adoration of Trump.
2. Hate liberals and anything they like.
3. Hate LGBTQ, with extreme emphasis on T.
4. Hate for immigrants especially if non white people.
So, except for love for Trump who stokes their hate, it is just hate.
No hate here with us conservatives. I did see hate with Stephen Colbert and see hate with the ladies of the View. They spew(ed) hate daily at republicans.
Love immigrants. Are we talking legal immigrants or illegal ones? Like them both. My ancestors were legal immigrants to this great country. We cherished the opportunities afforded to us.
Don't hate any of the LGBTQ. Don't like men playing in women's sports. If you don't see a problem with that - then that is your problem.
Don't adore Trump. Think he is despicable but better than Kamala.
No hate from the “despicable” man or his ardent supporters. Right.
I guess the despicable derives from lots of other negative things, none of which involve hate (for gays, brown people, libs, foreigners, Muslims, the educated, those who might give sh** about the environment….).
Maybe you are conservative, but I am will call you what you are. You are a constant Trump defender and your position changes with his daily talking points. You are an angry person who believes that people who disagree with you (the majority in the US) should be punished, laws be danmed.
As has been said a billion times, there is very little “conservative” about Trump or Trumpism. Indeed, much of it is 180 out.
But saying otherwise makes the Trumpers feel good.
I see no reason to swallow that BS.
👆who is this guy? I hope you didn’t study conservatism in some Ivy League school or this country is in deep shlt.
Trump is a horrible person who has done horrible things, and his supporters have accepted all of it. I’ve heard many times from what seemed like knowledgeable and unbiased sources that there probably isn’t any particularly damming information about Trump in the Epstein files.
He’s receiving unprecedented negativity from his supporters for not releasing more information. But he’s not doing it.
The only obvious explanation would seem to be that the people who say that there’s not terribly damming information are wrong.
Or….??
I actually think there is another explanation.
I think that Trump has a god complex. Basically he thinks he is a god. He thinks that everyone else is simply beneath him. How dare these peons demand anything of him?!?
My guess is that the files are mildly embarrassing to Trump - just the fact that he is mentioned many times and was clearly a close friend of Epstein. So he buried it. Then, when people demanded that the files be released he went into full "HOW DARE THESE PEONS, THESE ANTS, THESE NOTHINGS demand anything from me!?!?!" mode. Now he is stuck there.
As has been said a billion times, there is very little “conservative” about Trump or Trumpism. Indeed, much of it is 180 out.
But saying otherwise makes the Trumpers feel good.
I see no reason to swallow that BS.
👆who is this guy? I hope you didn’t study conservatism in some Ivy League school or this country is in deep shlt.
Darned tootin' !
Because conservatism absolutely IS worship of Trump, fear of free trade and international economic competition, mountainous increases in the nationa debt, and above all else, an all-consuming sense of victim-hood fueling boundless fear, anger and hatred.
Glad you called him out on his ignorance, Rebel, because I was just about to do it myself.
1) America is a lot less than we might have thought it was.
2) The GOP partially proved this by having a primary and picking Trump.
3) America then proved it by electing him president.
4) A majority of America then cheered or shrugged in the last 6 months.
And the stock market has taken off to almost like a new all-time high every day.
What does that have anything to do with MAGA? The platform is to say anything to appease the conservative base, which is a nice way to call losers in a progressive economy that chase profits across boundaries like flies chasing rotten eggs. For anyone owns stocks, they would hate taxes and tariffs driving up prices and lowering earning potentials. MAGA are mostly rednecks that work on low paying jobs and live paycheck by paychecks. Latinos immigrants are taking away MAGA’s jobs, which is why a border wall along Mexico border is music to MAGA’s ears.
Trump is a horrible person who has done horrible things, and his supporters have accepted all of it. I’ve heard many times from what seemed like knowledgeable and unbiased sources that there probably isn’t any particularly damming information about Trump in the Epstein files.
He’s receiving unprecedented negativity from his supporters for not releasing more information. But he’s not doing it.
The only obvious explanation would seem to be that the people who say that there’s not terribly damming information are wrong.
Or….??
I actually think there is another explanation.
I think that Trump has a god complex. Basically he thinks he is a god. He thinks that everyone else is simply beneath him. How dare these peons demand anything of him?!?
My guess is that the files are mildly embarrassing to Trump - just the fact that he is mentioned many times and was clearly a close friend of Epstein. So he buried it. Then, when people demanded that the files be released he went into full "HOW DARE THESE PEONS, THESE ANTS, THESE NOTHINGS demand anything from me!?!?!" mode. Now he is stuck there.
👆jeez, another loon.
It’s called an America Complex. This is our President. Trump. The man who gave his life, though God would not allow it, to protect the sovereignty of this great country, knowing full well and telling the World that his predecessor was running a coup to keep him from power. A coup that lasts to this day. Their philosophy is nearly dead, but we still have battles I’m sure. And we will win.
Trump deserves 300+ million Purple Hearts. Fight. Fight. Fight.
And the stock market has taken off to almost like a new all-time high every day.
What does that have anything to do with MAGA? The platform is to say anything to appease the conservative base, which is a nice way to call losers in a progressive economy that chase profits across boundaries like flies chasing rotten eggs. For anyone owns stocks, they would hate taxes and tariffs driving up prices and lowering earning potentials. MAGA are mostly rednecks that work on low paying jobs and live paycheck by paychecks. Latinos immigrants are taking away MAGA’s jobs, which is why a border wall along Mexico border is music to MAGA’s ears.
"MAGA are mostly rednecks"
You screwed up royally here. The majority of the republican party are not MAGAs - they are conservatives. There are a lot of rednecks who pledge allegiance to MAGA but most of us are conservatives who don't "adore" Trump or "worship" Trump - we accept him as the president - warts and all. Can you understand that?
What does that have anything to do with MAGA? The platform is to say anything to appease the conservative base, which is a nice way to call losers in a progressive economy that chase profits across boundaries like flies chasing rotten eggs. For anyone owns stocks, they would hate taxes and tariffs driving up prices and lowering earning potentials. MAGA are mostly rednecks that work on low paying jobs and live paycheck by paychecks. Latinos immigrants are taking away MAGA’s jobs, which is why a border wall along Mexico border is music to MAGA’s ears.
"MAGA are mostly rednecks"
You screwed up royally here. The majority of the republican party are not MAGAs - they are conservatives. There are a lot of rednecks who pledge allegiance to MAGA but most of us are conservatives who don't "adore" Trump or "worship" Trump - we accept him as the president - warts and all. Can you understand that?
Trump is a horrible person who has done horrible things, and his supporters have accepted all of it. I’ve heard many times from what seemed like knowledgeable and unbiased sources that there probably isn’t any particularly damming information about Trump in the Epstein files.
He’s receiving unprecedented negativity from his supporters for not releasing more information. But he’s not doing it.
The only obvious explanation would seem to be that the people who say that there’s not terribly damming information are wrong.
Or….??
There are very likely things short of "particularly damming" and "terribly damming" that Trump would not want people to see. I'm sure there is a lot of additional evidence that he was close friends with Epstein (stuff like the Epstein birthday book). Also, I'd bet there is evidence that he was friends with Epstein long past the time Trump claims he stopped being friends with Epstein, and even evidence that they were close friends after Epstein got busted. And probably photos of him hanging out with Epstein and hookers at parties, etc. Tons of stuff like that. Bondi even had the DOJ and FBI work overtime to flag it all. So, plenty of Trump creep evidence, but no direct evidence of sex crimes.
So, according to Trump's calculus (where the truth is never an option, even when it helps him), it's better to suppress that evidence and take some hits for looking like he's hiding something (which he undoubtedly is), than let that stuff out and have to lie and dodge and pretend it isn't what it is during press conferences.
It's "damning" by the way, not "damming." Jesus Christ, how long you been posting here and you still don't know how to spell goddamn "damning"?
It’s called an America Complex. This is our President. Trump. The man who gave his life, though God would not allow it, to protect the sovereignty of this great country, knowing full well and telling the World that his predecessor was running a coup to keep him from power. A coup that lasts to this day. Their philosophy is nearly dead, but we still have battles I’m sure. And we will win.
Trump deserves 300+ million Purple Hearts. Fight. Fight. Fight.
July 1: Paramount agrees to pay $16 million to settle Trump's personal lawsuit against CBS. July 22: Trump and Paramount dismiss the case, formalizing the settlement. July 24: Trump-appointed FCC approves $8 billion Paramount merger.
You screwed up royally here. The majority of the republican party are not MAGAs - they are conservatives. There are a lot of rednecks who pledge allegiance to MAGA but most of us are conservatives who don't "adore" Trump or "worship" Trump - we accept him as the president - warts and all. Can you understand that?
