A new spreadsheet for the financial stuff:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TcxS0bAZ8sG-SMZl_d-kF3zJS1jjLLPN5TOWddnixgo/edit?usp=sharing
if somebody wants to analyse his Youtube channel:
A new spreadsheet for the financial stuff:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TcxS0bAZ8sG-SMZl_d-kF3zJS1jjLLPN5TOWddnixgo/edit?usp=sharing
if somebody wants to analyse his Youtube channel:
TroLLminator wrote:
THAT WAS PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT POST OF THIS THREAD
Typical signs of fraudulent charities include B) huge "salaries" and other forms of compensation that would never be deemed reasonable for such enterprises and
You have described all the major charities in the US.
https://www.charitywatch.org/top-charity-salariesMarkus wrote:
Anyone know? wrote:First 9 miles was in 30 min though.
No one knows why tho.
Because Robert is a great runner with a 18 mph running speed.
Exactly. I think you all should stop commenting unless you are capable of an 18mph stretch over 9 miles.
You all just got schooled on facebook. They posted the CCTV footage.
Anyone know? wrote:
RobbyYoung wrote:Rob managed to do the 20 miles From Effingham to Greenup in about 4hrs. That's a cool 5mph, well above his average of the last few days.
First 9 miles was in 30 min though.
No one knows why tho.
Seriously? I've just been skimming the thread so I must have missed that part. I suppose it's possible that he left the RV behind and the RV had to catch up. If that's what happened, isn't that the kind of crap Lazarus should be reporting?
dfmndsmsfd wrote:
You all just got schooled on facebook. They posted the CCTV footage.
Link or it didn't happen
Heavyd84 wrote:
Southeast. I was going to follow him through the east half of the state as long as I could
The Ultra List team (Laz and company) can be reached at
UltraListTracking@gmail.comif you wish to contact us direct.
runbikeswimrunsomemore wrote:
Yes. The person who 18 months ago figured out this long running scam that has been going on for years was the person who shut down lisa scamming the legitimate charity on her fake transcon planned this year.
Do you have a link to a news article that verifies this?
From RY's Facebook:
This is a rather long Facebook post but necessarily so. Please bear with me.
As many of you will already know, there have been some questions raised about Rob on this run. We assure you everything is being done in the right way out here. Due to this we have been joined by Laz, a famous figure in the Ultrarunning world and race director of the Barkley marathon, along with other top ultrarunning figures. To check that Rob is doing all he says he is. There have been some rumours and misinterpretations of data posted by individuals out there, none of whom have never met us on our journey and it is important to put these rumours to bed.
Among a very small but vociferous group of doubters is one individual who apparently came out to run with Rob near Emporia in Kansas.
Though this individual has posted video footage of our vehicle online as he drove past, for some reason he felt unwilling to ask us to stop, to enquire where Rob was when he couldn't see him. If he had done so he would have been welcomed in and been able to discover the facts.
On that occasion, approaching Emporia, Rob had been running behind the vehicle, which is normal for us. We often drive at a set speed while Rob tucks in behind the vehicle. When he wants us to slow down and stop he flashes his torch.
On a number of occasions, maybe 5 in total on this journey, the driver has failed to notice this signal to stop. The result? Rob is left stranded and the RV continues on assuming Rob to be back there running. This was what happened in Emporia. Michael, who was driving, was only alerted to the fact that he had lost Rob when Rob, borrowing a phone from a stranger in a bar in Emporia, called Michael to tell him. We even have the phone numbers of the stranger and the barmaid there if required to support this explanation.
The accuser then went to the trouble of getting CCTV footage from that night, from a local gas station, in order to back up his claim of impropriety. His post of the RV cruising slowly past without Rob in sight was supposedly proof that Rob was in the RV, rolling towards NYC without running those miles. If only the individual had the courage to stop our vehicle to find out for himself instead of being so furtive. I know Michael would have appreciated finding out that he had lost Rob and the individual could have learned the truth and seen it with his own eyes.
We have since contacted that gas station and asked them to help us clear Rob's name by showing us the footage following the RV passing by. We knew Rob would come by a few minutes after, which, as you can see by the footage here, he does, some 9 minutes after the RV had passed by. It's dark but it is clearly Rob walking by, with his torch visible in his hand.
This should finally put this question to rest. It has taken us considerable time and trouble to do this and all while we really wanted to focus on supporting Rob's superhuman efforts to break an incredible record. We will be happy to respond to any other queries after Rob reaches NYC but not before. We have lots and lots of data etc to prove Rob is doing everything in the right way. If and when he claims a record it will be backed up by huge amounts of data that will leave nothing in doubt - including many independent witnesses, such as ultrarunners Ruben Cantu, The Foxy Moxies, Nancy Bennett, Gary Cantrell, Bill Schultz, to name but a few.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. Dustin, Michael and Rob..
Questions about who is / isn't in the CCTV footage aside - they claim here that *they* obtained the footage. I was under the impression that it was the OP from here (Asher?).
Hi person in on the scam!
They are now saying that they will share all of the data people are asking for only if he actually sets the record.
I think it's pretty clear what is going to happen: he won't set the record but he will "finish" his journey across the US, which was made much easier by skipping a lot of the hard parts out west. Because he won't set the record, they won't share the data. I don't think they're going to cheat going forward, either, so I really don't see much happening from here on out. The only possible avenue is more camera footage, but that's a real needle in a haystack situation.
dfmndsmsfd wrote:
You all just got schooled on facebook. They posted the CCTV footage.
Schooled by a guy who didn't remember that he was wearing non-reflective all black and that he got separated from the RV and had to borrow a phone to call and... until after the video was posted. Totally contradicts what he said before the video was posted, but hey, I guess the video jogged his memory, so that's good.
Ah yes. That bastion of media power. Cctv
I should clarify - they say that they obtained the additional CCTV footage (which they claim shows RY walking); was this done in separate from Asher obtaining the footage?
moanswers wrote:
runbikeswimrunsomemore wrote:Yes. The person who 18 months ago figured out this long running scam that has been going on for years was the person who shut down lisa scamming the legitimate charity on her fake transcon planned this year.
Do you have a link to a news article that verifies this?
Probably will need to search up the financial reports of those charities and the documents showing who the directors are, all of which should be online. Then, it would be a matter of searching up the background history and relationships of those directors.
This story is getting more and more intriguing. I will need to try searching later to see what I can find.
But yeah, I don't like "charities" because a lot of them are actually scams.
One problem there... I was able to find that they did have to turn back at one point that night, but it appeared that they turned back *before* the spot where Asher passed them.
Otherwise... after Asher passed them and came back and tried to run with them and they drove off.... so they claim Rob was not with them at all and they'd have realized he fell back too far if Asher had just talked to them? So why did they drive off and ditch Rob, who they now claim to have had no idea where he was at that time, with Axe-murderer Asher out there chasing?!?
113 wrote:
They are now saying that they will share all of the data people are asking for only if he actually sets the record.
I think it's pretty clear what is going to happen: he won't set the record but he will "finish" his journey across the US, which was made much easier by skipping a lot of the hard parts out west. Because he won't set the record, they won't share the data. I don't think they're going to cheat going forward, either, so I really don't see much happening from here on out. The only possible avenue is more camera footage, but that's a real needle in a haystack situation.
Yep. We should focus on the FOIA requests.
I don't like the tone of how they speak about Asher.
In the video they offer to give the phone number of the stranger and bar maid. How do we get that to have eyewitness testimony?
That would mean something if legit.
For those here who have not yet figured it out, there are two different CCTV's in play here:
"China Central Television"
aka "CCTV" (film crew that shows up once in a while)
&
"Closed-Circuit Television"
aka "CCTV", the security video at the Kansas car wash.