Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

From the "Water is Wet" news category:

Year to date, buybacks have doubled from the same period a year ago, Merrill Lynch said in a July 24 report, citing its clients’ trading activity.

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corporate tax cuts enrich executives in the short term while yielding less clear long-term benefits for workers and the broader economy.

What happened here Conservative Justice Warriors? I thought the new tax policy was supposed to make jobs. We were promised jobs by Lyin Ryan and all we got were a tiny number of C-level people cashing in on corporate welfare.

I need answers Conservative Justice Warriors!

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/30/eye-popping-payouts-for-ceos-follow-trumps-tax-cuts-747649

I was walking down the street today and I saw this truly enormous woman. She was FAT. I mean, I'm talking seriously FAT!

She seemed to be humming something to herself.

https://www.news18.com/news/business/trump-claims-to-have-a-business-relationship-with-mueller-1827553.html

Why do you believe no impeachment proceeding approved by the end of Trump's first term? We are still more than 2 years away from that.

Also, are you assuming a Mueller report in the near term (say no later than spring 2019), or do you think it will take longer and that's why you don't think the impeachment process will begin?

I think that if Mueller doesn't indict (which is still likely that he will not), then with the information that is in the report, the impeachment process will begin nearly immediately. Democrats will control the House after the midterms, but the info will be so bad that the Senate will either convict or let Trump know they have the votes to convict and then he will resign.

I wonder how many GOP congressmen are on the payroll of Moscow. Nunes for sure. But, based on their words and actions, I wonder if there are dozens of others.

agip wrote:

frightening note

I was just unfriended on FB because I insisted that the libertarian Koch Brothers, with their pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-markets, pro-criminal justice reform, pro -individual rights, pro-arts, pro-African American scholarships...are not Nazi-like.

The right has completely lost its bearings and become something different. I do hope the left doesnt' do the same in response.

Reasonable people need to pursue the truth and not be afraid of it.

The Kochs are not Nazis.

Soros is not a hard lefty.

Say these things to your like-minded friends. Insist on them. Tell the truth. Do not let them bend it. If the truth cannot be told, we are doomed.

I hope that this sort of thing causes you to reflect on your own interactions with Mr. Obvious on these very boards.

Perhaps you can do better in the future.

Rememberer wrote:

agip wrote:

frightening note

I was just unfriended on FB because I insisted that the libertarian Koch Brothers, with their pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-markets, pro-criminal justice reform, pro -individual rights, pro-arts, pro-African American scholarships...are not Nazi-like.

The right has completely lost its bearings and become something different. I do hope the left doesnt' do the same in response.

Reasonable people need to pursue the truth and not be afraid of it.

The Kochs are not Nazis.

Soros is not a hard lefty.

Say these things to your like-minded friends. Insist on them. Tell the truth. Do not let them bend it. If the truth cannot be told, we are doomed.

I hope that this sort of thing causes you to reflect on your own interactions with Mr. Obvious on these very boards.

Perhaps you can do better in the future.

by all means call me out if I deny the truth or go all kneejerk on anyone.

the hard part is that I've heard that Mueller's report will drop in pieces. Probably first an obstruction report - supposedly that is almost done. Then later more pieces. So what does a Dem House do with that? Impeach just on obstruction? or wait for collusion/conspiracy/financial crimes?

agip wrote:

Rememberer wrote:

I hope that this sort of thing causes you to reflect on your own interactions with Mr. Obvious on these very boards.

Perhaps you can do better in the future.

by all means call me out if I deny the truth or go all kneejerk on anyone.

I did at the time. It did not seem to have much effect.

I hope you will do better in the future.

Proofer wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Manafort will be acquitted?! WOW! You really haven't been paying attention.

Mueller will get Trump. SDNY likely too.

Doesn’t exist. That’s why.

Just another lie from the guy who doesn’t lie.

At least try to respond to the right post. Like I said, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not.

I even made a post here (and it's still there, so you can go find if it you want -- no I will not do it for you) about Rico Cooper in 2003! I was pushing a fake ego-centric persona back then, but I don't do that anymore.

Back on topic...

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Dems won’t control the house and Senate so impeachment won’t happen. The only way is if there is a serious smoking gun like a direct payment clearly connecting Trump to wrong doing, essentially proving he aided the Russians’ meddling endeavors directly. - so that is very unlikely. Or of course Trump talks to Mueller and lies. I don’t think he will talk though. Mueller’s report is going to be solid but his powers will stop short of that, he will just hand off the report to Congress. The GOP probably already likely feels the base has been sufficiently primed with enough Kool Aid for them to push back on an impeachment proceeding though, so I don’t see them giving in. Too many GOPers have gone to the dark side for them to unify against Trump.

Ok. Interesting. I think you're wrong about the end result (I agree that Democrats might not control the Senate, but they need 67 vote there anyway). Conspiracy with Russia to help him get elected is a big deal, traitorous. Time will tell who is right.

once conceivable link between trump himself and russia is the social media stuff

say they find enough evidence to show that Trump okd or requested their own info on voters to be given to russian intel or a russian cut-out - for use in social media campaigns.

That woudl look very bad, but impeachable? Probably not.

Hmm...that is a problem if it goes down like that. Where did you hear that it will be released in pieces like that? If so, that's a really bad idea...gives time for Trump to do all he can then to fire Mueller or Rosenstein or somehow slow or impede the process. It should all be released at once...come down on him like a hammer.

Flagpole wrote:

agip wrote:

the hard part is that I've heard that Mueller's report will drop in pieces. Probably first an obstruction report - supposedly that is almost done. Then later more pieces. So what does a Dem House do with that? Impeach just on obstruction? or wait for collusion/conspiracy/financial crimes?

Hmm...that is a problem if it goes down like that. Where did you hear that it will be released in pieces like that? If so, that's a really bad idea...gives time for Trump to do all he can then to fire Mueller or Rosenstein or somehow slow or impede the process. It should all be released at once...come down on him like a hammer.

“Mueller’s investigators have indicated to the president’s legal team that they are considering writing reports on their findings in stages — with the first report focused on the obstruction issue,” per Carol and Bob. “Under special counsel regulations, Mueller is required to report his conclusions confidentially to Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, who has the authority to decide whether to release the information publicly. ‘They’ve said they want to write a report on this — to answer the public’s questions — and they need the president’s interview as the last step,’ one person familiar with the discussions said of Mueller’s team.

“The president’s allies believe a second report detailing the special counsel’s findings on Russia’s interference would be issued later. … Some of Trump’s advisers have warned White House aides that they fear Mueller could issue a blistering report about the president’s actions.”

agip wrote:

once conceivable link between trump himself and russia is the social media stuff

say they find enough evidence to show that Trump okd or requested their own info on voters to be given to russian intel or a russian cut-out - for use in social media campaigns.

That woudl look very bad, but impeachable? Probably not.

We will see.

As I've said many times, he will be charged with many crimes, but the big three are:

1) Conspiracy with Russia

2) Obstruction of justice - this is obstructing justice of the finding of #1 above

3) Money Laundering - this will be tied to Russia in some way, either with Felix Sater or the reason that Russia has its thumb on Trump, something. It won't just be a stand-alone issue.

Following those big three will be:

1) Emoluments clause violation.

2) FELONY Campaign Finance Law violation.

3) Bank fraud and/or wire fraud or conspiracy to commit both or either.

4) Logan Act violation (if they are even interested)

5) Some sort of hacking law violation or conspiracy to commit

6) Some sort of RICO thing if not already covered in another charge

7)Wiretap Act violation

8) Uniform Trade Secrets Act violation

9) Conspiracy to commit trespass to chattels

10) Some sort of computer crimes act violation

11) Likely some other things too

On the creeper scale, we will also get this:

1) Discovery that he impregnated a Playboy playmate and paid her $1.6 million dollars of RNC money for her to get an abortion and keep quiet.

2) Proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he did have affairs with Stormy Daniels, Karen MacDougal, and at least three other women whom he paid off, all in a time frame that makes the FELONY Campaign Finance Violation stick.

Once Trump is removed from office, his legal troubles will continue. He is likely to lose control of his business, and many of the at least 19 women who have said he assaulted them will sue him.

He comes out of this very injured with a small chance of spending time in jail. If he incites people to violence after he is removed from office, he WILL spend time in jail.

Hopefully Rosenstein will not release anything until all is done.

agip wrote:

once conceivable link between trump himself and russia is the social media stuff

say they find enough evidence to show that Trump okd or requested their own info on voters to be given to russian intel or a russian cut-out - for use in social media campaigns.

That woudl look very bad, but impeachable? Probably not.

Ahem, that information (emails and Facebook data) was stolen. So, absolutely impeachable.

Flagpole I think you are overreacting. They may get something small but unlikely the REALLY REALLY REALLY big stuff you are looking for. Tweets are interesting because it suggests two things, either they are tieing it in to what they have or they have no to very little evidence and they need to pin something on the President to satisfy dems. Flagpole I think you are very smart but you’re way too emotionally attached to the subject which suggests to me you are reaching. Love the passion though we disagree.

I still think the better route for Democrats is to offer a solution or run a campaign designated to beat Trump and the Republicans in the next election cycle. Running on impeachment (which is horrible for the country) and identity politics will get them burned once again.

Stolen Data wrote:

agip wrote:

once conceivable link between trump himself and russia is the social media stuff

say they find enough evidence to show that Trump okd or requested their own info on voters to be given to russian intel or a russian cut-out - for use in social media campaigns.

That woudl look very bad, but impeachable? Probably not.

Ahem, that information (emails and Facebook data) was stolen. So, absolutely impeachable.

achoo, not all info is stolen. Campaigns have a lot of data - you can read up on jared kushner's data info if you want. One theory is that the trump campaign knew who might have voted for obama but also was angry at black lives matter. Those people could be targeted successfully by russian social medium bots.

but more broadly, eating a ham sandwich on tuesday is impeachable. impeachment is a political process, not a criminal justice process.