From a coaching standpoint this is trading up talent/effectiveness wise. This may look bad to outsiders, but it is the move I would make in his position. It is all at the directors discretion to hire staff. Rarely are assistants retained after a new director is hired. Why is Montana different?
Montana is a glaring example of blatant nepotism. That is the issue. The new director fired a coach on staff to hire his wife. That’s as simple as it is. That is not acceptable. If I was that sprints coach, I would take the University to Court. That is why this is different. Unbelievable the admin was on board for all this and putting themselves at risk. Bad move.
Rarely is a director forced to keep any of the previous staff. If he in in charge and feels he'll do a better job coaching sprints then he can do what he's like. They certainly were no sprint power under the previous coach, there's no reason to think he can't do it better.
Montana is a glaring example of blatant nepotism. That is the issue. The new director fired a coach on staff to hire his wife. That’s as simple as it is. That is not acceptable. If I was that sprints coach, I would take the University to Court. That is why this is different. Unbelievable the admin was on board for all this and putting themselves at risk. Bad move.
Rarely is a director forced to keep any of the previous staff. If he in in charge and feels he'll do a better job coaching sprints then he can do what he's like. They certainly were no sprint power under the previous coach, there's no reason to think he can't do it better.
Didn’t the new cal poly coach fire the assistant coach that was there to hire his wife… I think that happens a lot and only losers whine about it.
Obviously! You must be new to this board. The only way to gain any respect here is to invest heavily in distance. If you don’t, then your program is horrendous and gets zero respect here
Hate to break it to you but last year at outdoor nationals the top 3 men’s teams went Florida, Texas, Tennessee. Not one of them score in a distance event but the closest was Texas getting 9th in the 800.
The women went Florida, Texas, Kentucky. Florida got a 2nd and a 4th. Texas got a 6th. That’s it. I’m not saying distance doesn’t get it done at nationals but these are the number from last year.
Good teams equal good teams no matter what. Get as many events as you can which usually leads to sprinters getting multiple events and throwers going for many events. Distance can usually only go into one event.
Facts mean nothing. The only way anybody on this board will respect a program is if they are all in on distance. Those fact you presented are meaningless to the people here cause all that matters is distance. Common sense would say that you’re right but this board isn’t full of that. It’s full of people who complain when they don’t get jobs they were never going to get or they complain about how teams don’t invest in distance
Rarely is a director forced to keep any of the previous staff. If he in in charge and feels he'll do a better job coaching sprints then he can do what he's like. They certainly were no sprint power under the previous coach, there's no reason to think he can't do it better.
Didn’t the new cal poly coach fire the assistant coach that was there to hire his wife… I think that happens a lot and only losers whine about it.
Only losers whine about nepotism. Real winners whine about minority hires.
Obviously! You must be new to this board. The only way to gain any respect here is to invest heavily in distance. If you don’t, then your program is horrendous and gets zero respect here
Hate to break it to you but last year at outdoor nationals the top 3 men’s teams went Florida, Texas, Tennessee. Not one of them score in a distance event but the closest was Texas getting 9th in the 800.
The women went Florida, Texas, Kentucky. Florida got a 2nd and a 4th. Texas got a 6th. That’s it. I’m not saying distance doesn’t get it done at nationals but these are the number from last year.
Good teams equal good teams no matter what. Get as many events as you can which usually leads to sprinters getting multiple events and throwers going for many events. Distance can usually only go into one event.
"Distance can usually only go into one event".
800 (optional)
1500
3000m Steeple
5000m
10,000m
I'm no Mathlete but I'm seeing some potential points with the above distances...A lot of points! Not too mention some athletes can double.
Hate to break it to you but last year at outdoor nationals the top 3 men’s teams went Florida, Texas, Tennessee. Not one of them score in a distance event but the closest was Texas getting 9th in the 800.
The women went Florida, Texas, Kentucky. Florida got a 2nd and a 4th. Texas got a 6th. That’s it. I’m not saying distance doesn’t get it done at nationals but these are the number from last year.
Good teams equal good teams no matter what. Get as many events as you can which usually leads to sprinters getting multiple events and throwers going for many events. Distance can usually only go into one event.
"Distance can usually only go into one event".
800 (optional)
1500
3000m Steeple
5000m
10,000m
I'm no Mathlete but I'm seeing some potential points with the above distances...A lot of points! Not too mention some athletes can double.
Meaning it’s rare to double up… happens but not as likely as a sprinter going for the 100, 200, 4x1, and long jump. Excess example but the point is made.
Distance important, yes, but sprints is most likely to double up or more. Even throws is more likely.
Yeah and sprints has even more events to score... 100 200 400 800 (optional) 4x1 4x4
Not arguing that sprints and field events don't earn points. I was only responding to the post which stated that distance runners are limited to one event which is not true. Obviously, putting together a balanced program is essential and relies a lot on recruiting and coaching. It can be done.
Rarely is a director forced to keep any of the previous staff. If he in in charge and feels he'll do a better job coaching sprints then he can do what he's like. They certainly were no sprint power under the previous coach, there's no reason to think he can't do it better.
Didn’t the new cal poly coach fire the assistant coach that was there to hire his wife… I think that happens a lot and only losers whine about it.
PROVIDENCE, R.I. – Ken Hunt, the Brown Alden-Rothenberg Men's and Women's Cross Country/Track & Field Coaching Chair has announced the hiring of two former Olympians
I'm no Mathlete but I'm seeing some potential points with the above distances...A lot of points! Not too mention some athletes can double.
Meaning it’s rare to double up… happens but not as likely as a sprinter going for the 100, 200, 4x1, and long jump. Excess example but the point is made.
Distance important, yes, but sprints is most likely to double up or more. Even throws is more likely.
I like distance
I think the point that needs to be made is the contrary one. NCAA Champions in both the the 5000 and 10000 since 1963: Edward Cheserek, Lawi Lalang, Sam Chelanga, Galen Rupp, Robert Cheseret, Alistair Cragg, Brad Hauser, Men Keflezighi, Ed Eyestone, Gidemis Shahanga, Suleiman Nyambui, John Ngeno and Gerry Lindgren NCAA Champions in the 100, 200, 4x1 and LJ since ever: None.
