Could this guy be the next Dem nominee for POTUS?
Could this guy be the next Dem nominee for POTUS?
Der Leader wrote:
Could this guy be the next Dem nominee for POTUS?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/20/top-dem-candidate-gave-millions-to-groups-advocating-for-taxing-families-to-hilt-for-irresponsible-breeding.html
Nice deflection.
Flagpole wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
[quote]Flagpole wrote:
The cool thing is that even if all of those things are due to Trump's policies (they aren't), those things completely absolve Trump of any crimes he has committed and any treasonous-like behavior he just exhibited with Putin. Oh wait. unproven, no indictment, no charges, nothing
Can't side with a murderous dictator against your own US intelligence agencies as President. Just can't do it.- Lol, now you side with our Intelligence agencies? What happened to all the libs who cried that there were NO WMD's in Iraq?
Can't money launder- unproven
Can't obstruct justice- unproven
Can't serial lie - every POTUS lies, stupid TDS argument
Can't conspire with Russia to try to win a US election- unproven
Can't do all the other many horrible things he has done both before and after being elected and expect to continue as President- Hillary and you voted for that horrible witch
This will end badly for Trump- no, it will end badly for you, the Flagpolian Flop is coming
Mueller is coming- Mueller never
The clown is done- Clownpole forever
1) I NEVER said there weren't WMDs in Iraq, and in fact, I was all for Bush going in there to get Saddam...not based on potential WMDs though but because he kept thumbing his nose at UN Sanctions. Why would a Democrat feel that way? Because I am and always have been a Rule of Law person. THAT is why I am against Trump because he is threatening the Rule of Law.
2) I notice how you sidestep the siding with a murderous dictator part other than deflection that I just refuted. No answer for that eh?
3) Money laundering will be proven. You are a fool to think otherwise.
4) Obstruction of justice will be proven. You are a fool to think otherwise.
5) Trump is a serial liar. No other President was a serial liar. False equivalency to mention that all of them lie.
6) What we know already shows conspiracy to help Trump win the election. This will be a proven fact, and we will eventually know more than we do now.
7) Hillary again? Let it go man. She is old news. She has nothing to do with how horrible Trump is, and as of the Helsinki meeting, we know for sure that he is a traitor rather than just assuming so. Again, false equivalency. Trump is so far and away worse than any other national US politician that there just is no comparison.
In addition to him being a Grade A A$$hole, Trump will be found guilty of (though some may drop off due to plea bargain):
Obstruction of Justice
Money Laundering
Bank fraud or conspiracy to commit
Wire fraud or conspiracy to commit
Campaign Finance violation
Conspiracy with Russia and maybe even other countries against the United States of America
Logan Act violation (if they are even interested)
Emoluments Clause violation (if they are even interested)
Some sort of hacking law violation or conspiracy to commit
Some sort of RICO thing if not already covered in another charge
Wiretap Act violation
Uniform Trade Secrets Act violation
Conspiracy to commit trespass to chattels
Some sort of computer crimes act violation
Likely some other things too
He's a traitor.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
What? No treason???
Rigged for HiIlary wrote:
How long until we see this line of “thinking” on LRC? wrote:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/trump-voters-putin-russia/565592/Have we seen this argument from the Russian bots, FSB/GRU sponsored trolls, or Disco Gary on LRC yet? If not, should be soon....
I don’t see any problem here. Russia is a great country run by a great man—Vladimir Putin. We’d be lucky to have a leader like Putin. If it would’ve been Hillary versus Putin in the 2016 election, Putin would’ve won easily because we have so many thoughtful, patriotic folks on the right that put country over party.
+1
Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine am?
Deflect, redirect, and obfuscate wrote:
Der Leader wrote:
Could this guy be the next Dem nominee for POTUS?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/20/top-dem-candidate-gave-millions-to-groups-advocating-for-taxing-families-to-hilt-for-irresponsible-breeding.htmlNice deflection.
Sad thing is that it would be an improvement over the last candidate the DNC trotted out.
Um....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44895384
Seriously? Is Putin popular in the US? From a European perspective this is truly odd behavior. Can a US Trump supporter please explain why this is a good thing?
old timey poster wrote:
Flagpole wrote:1) I NEVER said there weren't WMDs in Iraq, and in fact, I was all for Bush going in there to get Saddam...
Flagpole, there WERE no WMDs in Iraq. I did my best to warn everyone on here, way back then, that it all looked made up, and then it turned out to be the case. Colin Powel showed the UN security council the stack of bull$hit he'd been fed by Cheney and cronies, and the whole world (evidently other than you, shame on you) knows now it was all fictitious. The rewritten history records the invasion of Iraq and subsequent capture and execution of Saddam Hussein as well justified by other hindsight arguments, but nobody with an ounce of intelligence (which I presumed you had) still accepts the WMD basis for invading Saddam's Iraq.
I know there were no WMDs in Iraq. Dude accused "Democrats" of saying there were not WMDs there...trying to emphasize that Democrats were going against what the intelligence was saying at the time. I never said that as I was unsure at the time. I was for getting Saddam simply because he refused to follow the UN Sanctions...sanctions which were criteria for a cease fire.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Just for accuracy....
There were no WMDs in Iraq....not in the way we were led to be. There was no current program.
I agree. You guys aren't understanding my comments and the reasons for them. Read again.
Ben Arnold wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) I NEVER said there weren't WMDs in Iraq, and in fact, I was all for Bush going in there to get Saddam...not based on potential WMDs though but because he kept thumbing his nose at UN Sanctions. Why would a Democrat feel that way? Because I am and always have been a Rule of Law person. THAT is why I am against Trump because he is threatening the Rule of Law.
2) I notice how you sidestep the siding with a murderous dictator part other than deflection that I just refuted. No answer for that eh?
3) Money laundering will be proven. You are a fool to think otherwise.
4) Obstruction of justice will be proven. You are a fool to think otherwise.
5) Trump is a serial liar. No other President was a serial liar. False equivalency to mention that all of them lie.
6) What we know already shows conspiracy to help Trump win the election. This will be a proven fact, and we will eventually know more than we do now.
7) Hillary again? Let it go man. She is old news. She has nothing to do with how horrible Trump is, and as of the Helsinki meeting, we know for sure that he is a traitor rather than just assuming so. Again, false equivalency. Trump is so far and away worse than any other national US politician that there just is no comparison.
In addition to him being a Grade A A$$hole, Trump will be found guilty of (though some may drop off due to plea bargain):
Obstruction of Justice
Money Laundering
Bank fraud or conspiracy to commit
Wire fraud or conspiracy to commit
Campaign Finance violation
Conspiracy with Russia and maybe even other countries against the United States of America
Logan Act violation (if they are even interested)
Emoluments Clause violation (if they are even interested)
Some sort of hacking law violation or conspiracy to commit
Some sort of RICO thing if not already covered in another charge
Wiretap Act violation
Uniform Trade Secrets Act violation
Conspiracy to commit trespass to chattels
Some sort of computer crimes act violation
Likely some other things too
He's a traitor.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
What? No treason???
He is a traitor, but Treason is a very specific charge that likely does not apply here as we are not officially at war with Russia.
European brah wrote:
Seriously? Is Putin popular in the US? From a European perspective this is truly odd behavior. Can a US Trump supporter please explain why this is a good thing?
It means the U.S. taxpayers don't have to foot the travel bill for Trump's periodic job performance review.
Flagpole wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Just for accuracy....
There were no WMDs in Iraq....not in the way we were led to be. There was no current program.
I agree. You guys aren't understanding my comments and the reasons for them. Read again.
Perhaps you should rewrite them so they are coherent.
European brah wrote:
Um....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44895384Seriously? Is Putin popular in the US? From a European perspective this is truly odd behavior. Can a US Trump supporter please explain why this is a good thing?
A US Trump supporter looks at Trump as Jesus.
They will believe in anything he does.
Anything
They used to not believe in tariffs until Trump did it. Now tariffs are good.
Russia was bad before. Now Russia is good.
If he said that the US must have socialized medicine and ban all guns, his supporters would be fine with that.
Clearly wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I agree. You guys aren't understanding my comments and the reasons for them. Read again.
Perhaps you should rewrite them so they are coherent.
I would if that were the case here (and it has been the case before for I am not perfect and capable of being unclear). Lazy reading on the part of the commentators in this case.
It's Friday, Friday, a bombshell always drops on Friday...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
It's Friday, Friday, a bombshell always drops on Friday...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html
That was to pay here for getting Trump some covfefe, Nothing to see, hear. . . . But, Hillary!!!
Oops!
Manufacturers are finding that their “Keep America Great” hats and “Trump 2020” flags are being held up at U.S. customs, thus delaying their delivery to customers. The cost of their product is likely to spike due to Trump tariffs.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-flags-hats-made-in-china-held-at-customs-trade-war-2018-7
MA.GA Man wrote:
European brah wrote:
Seriously? Is Putin popular in the US? From a European perspective this is truly odd behavior. Can a US Trump supporter please explain why this is a good thing?
It means the U.S. taxpayers don't have to foot the travel bill for Trump's periodic job performance review.
Thanks for the response! That makes a lot of sense since, at least based on my foreign understanding of US politics, Republicans are the fiscally Conservative party. Having Putin come to the US to give Trump feedback on his job performance is much cheaper than having Trump having to make bi-annual trips to Europe or Russia.
Flagpole wrote:
Clearly wrote:
Perhaps you should rewrite them so they are coherent.
I would if that were the case here (and it has been the case before for I am not perfect and capable of being unclear). Lazy reading on the part of the commentators in this case.
Too many parenthetical statements (and you use a lot) tend to make your posts incoherent.
L L wrote:
European brah wrote:
Um....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44895384Seriously? Is Putin popular in the US? From a European perspective this is truly odd behavior. Can a US Trump supporter please explain why this is a good thing?
A US Trump supporter looks at Trump as Jesus.
They will believe in anything he does.
Anything
They used to not believe in tariffs until Trump did it. Now tariffs are good.
Russia was bad before. Now Russia is good.
If he said that the US must have socialized medicine and ban all guns, his supporters would be fine with that.
So, you’re saying Trump & his supporters are not beyond making rationale / reasonable reforms? That’s great news! So, do you think it’s likely Trump will make these common sense reforms to US healthcare and gun policy?