Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Pull your head out of your arse. wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

And your point is?

Noting America has interfered in elections doesn't change the fact the American democracy is under attack.

The point is moron every advanced country in the world does it. The intelligence agencies of the most advanced technological country in the world, America, under Obama's watch, allowed it to happen.

You should be heaping shït on, and asking questions of, the intelligence agencies and Obama.

Except this is 2018 and Trump is POTUS hating his own country and getting reamed by Putin.

Trollminator wrote:

Wish they'd make their friggin' minds up. wrote:

Poor old Donald can't win, when he got elected WWW3 and Armageddon was being predicted and he was being given a hard time by the snowflakes, now he's being conciliatory he's still being given a hard time by the snowflakes.

Since when does conciliatory mean getting owned with no hand to play? Trump himself has said that when someone attacks him he goes after them even harder, but I guess Putin only attacked the country he governs, not him directly so no big deal. You want to keep watching him flush the US down the toilet so you can laugh at liberals - we get it, spineless like your hero.

Ever come across the term "Iron fist in a velvet glove"? Also, the number one rule of diplomacy is "Never let your opponent know what you're really thinking.", Donald's very good at that.

If you think he has "no hand to play" then you're a moron.

Trollminator wrote:

Trump is...getting reamed by Putin.

And if you believe this too then you're an even bigger moron.

Snowflakes will whine no matter what. wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Since when does conciliatory mean getting owned with no hand to play? Trump himself has said that when someone attacks him he goes after them even harder, but I guess Putin only attacked the country he governs, not him directly so no big deal. You want to keep watching him flush the US down the toilet so you can laugh at liberals - we get it, spineless like your hero.

Ever come across the term "Iron fist in a velvet glove"? Also, the number one rule of diplomacy is "Never let your opponent know what you're really thinking.", Donald's very good at that.

If you think he has "no hand to play" then you're a moron.

There is no evidence that Trump is good at anything other than getting gullible people to believe what he says. He is no strategic thinker. He isn't playing a game with Putin that he's winning. He's just an idiot and a traitor and as will be shown to the world, a huge criminal.

Snowflakes will whine no matter what. wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Trump is...getting reamed by Putin.

And if you believe this too then you're an even bigger moron.

Trump himself admitted he messed up and I’m a moron for refusing to believe he’s a genius and this was some sort of brilliant strategic effort? Boy you are one gullible mfvcker. Did you enroll at Trump U?

I saw Roger Waters play live at Circo Massimo in Rome Saturday night. He's always been outspoken about social and political issues. He sand a few songs from his most recent album, including this one, with a gem, pertinent o this discussion, starting a little after the 1:30 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99cIUjPYqDE

Remember when Hillary said I wasn't for gay marriage, then she said what I meant to say was that I was not, not for gay marriage. Doesn't matter that she lost the election and got her clocked cleaned, you voted for her and she did what you're ripping Trump for all the time. Yeah, you really sounded "not bright" there Flagpole. Liar liar liar! Corrupt Hillary.

flagpole doesn't like the truth, never has. watch this. flagpole denies Clinton's own words, hilarious! he actually deflects Clinton's own words and describes what she meant! what a joke! thank you America for kicking her to the curb.

foo wrote:

yesIguess wrote:

That's how out of touch you are, my friend. American citizens are thriving. People are making money, saving for retirement, putting their kids through college, and you think the world is falling apart because socialists in London are flying a Trump baby balloon around. Get lost, man.

All that prosperity borrowed from future generations:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Now liberals care about the national debt bahhahaha. Didn't care when Obama put us a trillion in the hole, and dumped a billion in cash out the back of an airplane to the dictator in Iran. Sheeesh man.

XY wrote:

yesIguess wrote:

Clean what up? Specifically.

The flourishing economy? The lowest unemployment for blacks and Hispanics ever? The small business optimism? The reduced terror attacks in the United States? The jobs returning to the US? I'm just not sure what there is to clean up? His twitter feed, or something? Help me out.

Yes, you're correct. Obama set up the US with a strong economy and jobs outlook.

However, the next POTUS will have to repair a degraded credibility, restore dignity and mend wide divisions. All created by Trump

I hear this a lot from silly liberals. If you have a few minutes, would you mind explaining to me how Obama's economic policies contributed to the current state of the economy today? What specific policies did he put in place to encourage growth in a capitalist, consumer based economy?

I could list in specific detail the policies from the right that has encouraged this growth, but I'd be interested to hear how Obama made this happen.

yesIguess wrote:

If you have a few minutes, would you mind explaining to me how Obama's economic policies contributed to the current state of the economy today? What specific policies did he put in place to encourage growth in a capitalist, consumer based economy?

I could list in specific detail the policies from the right that has encouraged this growth, but I'd be interested to hear how Obama made this happen.

Leading up to the November 2008 election the US economy was in shambles. Obama was elected and took office in 2009.

His administration put in a large stimulus program. This included a number of tax breaks to help businesses and funding ordered for infrastructure.

The American car companies were failing and they put in a rescue plan that re-orged Chrysler and Chevy and gave a bump to Ford. Those companies along the the auto supply chain and US imports rebounded.

There was a cash for clunkers program that also helped sales.

For two years there was a temporary 2% reduction in employer SS withholding which was a direct benefit to lower wage earning Americans. And that help consumers spend which helps businesses.

That was followed by making the Bush tax cuts permanent for everyone making under $250K.

The ACA was passed which gave more Americans access to healthcare and healthcare providers ad insurance companies more customers.

The inherited 2009 budget had a huge deficit, mostly from the Great Recession. But the deficit was educed for 6 years in a row after that. All while having monthly job gains in that time.

And more importantly, the Obama administration did not make any major mistakes to set the economy or the federal budget backwards like the backfiring tariffs and budget breaking corporate tax breaks.

nicely played

Deflection and irrelevant.

This Putin meeting disaster is a distraction from us talking about the family separation disaster which was a distraction from us talking about the unsupported North Korea deal disaster which was a distraction from us talking about the tariff disaster which was a distraction from ...

You get the idea.

No one even remembers the Flynn firing or the Comey firing or the Russian meeting where he blabbed secret Israeli information to them.

These are all major stories that get forgotten and won't be in voters minds this November.

The Putin story will be out of the cycle, too.

Information overload. Nothing matters.

Trumpers...still feeling froggy today?

Did you watch that "clarification"? It was Trump as a hostage. It's the same thing he did when he had to "clarify" what he meant after the racist statements he made following the incident in Charlottesville.

Both times he was told by his staff that he made a mistake and had to correct it. Both times he did so very begrudgingly. Both times he nearly immediately took back his clarification. In this last case, he did so while making the clarification.

You elected someone who doesn't have the capacity to be the President. That happens. Time to admit it and stop your support of him.

BUT, the issue with him is that he's a criminal, now a proven traitor, a horrible human being who only brings out the worst in Americans, and now we know a weak leader with no balls whatsoever. He's a eunuch because Putin clearly has something on him.

As I have so clearly stated for a long time now, he will pay for his corruption. It should have been clear as day to you Trumpers that this was going to happen. I know most of you Trumpers still have your head in the sand about him, but he was so very clearly a deeply corrupt and amoral person right from the beginning. You don't change your stripes at age 70.

Trump will go down as the worst President in US history. "Trumpian" will replace "Nixsonian" as the word that defines the worst behavior in a politician.

The bad news is going to continue for Trump. He will have to resign or he will be impeached and removed. Only a pardon and/or a plea deal is going to keep him out of jail,,,and that's no guarantee.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole wrote:

Snowflakes will whine no matter what. wrote:

Ever come across the term "Iron fist in a velvet glove"? Also, the number one rule of diplomacy is "Never let your opponent know what you're really thinking.", Donald's very good at that.

If you think he has "no hand to play" then you're a moron.

There is no evidence that Trump is good at anything other than getting gullible people to believe what he says. He is no strategic thinker. He isn't playing a game with Putin that he's winning. He's just an idiot and a traitor and as will be shown to the world, a huge criminal.

There is no evidence that Donald Trump thinks. So, by definition, his opponent cannot know what he is thinking.

yesIguess wrote:

foo wrote:

All that prosperity borrowed from future generations:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Now liberals care about the national debt bahhahaha. Didn't care when Obama put us a trillion in the hole, and dumped a billion in cash out the back of an airplane to the dictator in Iran. Sheeesh man.

Who said I’m a liberal? I’m a fiscal conservative. Always have been and always will be. Both parties are fiscally reckless and Trump is taking us further down that trajectory. My dislike of Trump is not political.

L L wrote:

This Putin meeting disaster is a distraction from us talking about the family separation disaster which was a distraction from us talking about the unsupported North Korea deal disaster which was a distraction from us talking about the tariff disaster which was a distraction from ...

You get the idea.

No one even remembers the Flynn firing or the Comey firing or the Russian meeting where he blabbed secret Israeli information to them.

These are all major stories that get forgotten and won't be in voters minds this November.

The Putin story will be out of the cycle, too.

Information overload. Nothing matters.

Also, what about the horrible response to hurricane victims in Puerto Rico?

All of these egregious things that Trump has done do get pushed to the back burner because he has another one right behind it that needs new attention. What they do though is they tell you about his character, and that is why I have long known that Mueller will get him and that he is done. He has been an a$$hole for his entire life by all accounts. He has gotten away with criminal and sketchy behavior his whole adult life. That is about to end.

To date, his rolling over and putting his legs up to be petted by Putin is the worst thing he has done publicly since being in office. He greatly admires dictators who murder political opponents and journalists. Could he possibly ever go down that road? He has broken just about every other social norm. He has proven to be completely untrustworthy and only out to protect himself. Hopefully he will have enough sense to not go that far. Much better to just have to resign and avoid prison due to pardon and plea bargain than to spend the rest of his life in jail.

foo wrote:

yesIguess wrote:

Now liberals care about the national debt bahhahaha. Didn't care when Obama put us a trillion in the hole, and dumped a billion in cash out the back of an airplane to the dictator in Iran. Sheeesh man.

Who said I’m a liberal? I’m a fiscal conservative. Always have been and always will be. Both parties are fiscally reckless and Trump is taking us further down that trajectory. My dislike of Trump is not political.

Yep. That's how it should be...dislike of Trump for non-political reasons. I am also a fiscal conservative, and I agree that both parties need some help there, and there are arguments to be made that Republicans are worse than Democrats.

That's all policy stuff though, and that is more important during normal times...we are not in normal times. We have a corrupt traitor in the White House, and that should be first and foremost on everyone's mind.