gnarlysheen wrote:
Thank you for your service, Mr. Musk.
Is Chief Sund update?
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Sund-2021-02-23.pdf
Wingy dingy ding ding?
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Oldrunningguy wrote:
Holy crapola! Read Trumps full response to a question on his 90 tariff deals in 90 days.
"Oh, we've spoken to everybody. We know every. It's all done. I told you. I told you we'll make some deals, but for the most part we're gonna send a letter. We're gonna say, 'Welcome to the United States. If you'd like to participate in the greatest, most successful country ever.' I mean, we're doing better than ever. We have. I don't think. And you're gonna see these numbers soon. We've never had numbers like this. We've never had investment like this. Uh, we have more than 90. We're gonna have much more than 90. But most of those are gonna be sent a letter. This is exactly what I said. Now, we've made a deal with United Kingdom. We've made a deal with China. We've made a deal. We're close to making a deal with India. Others, we've met with, and we don't think we're gonna be able to make a deal. So, we just send them a letter. 'Do you wanna, do you wanna play ball? This is what you have to pay.' So, we're, as far as I'm concerned, we're done. We're sending out letters to various countries, telling them how much tariffs they have to pay. Some will maybe adjust a little bit depending if they have a, you know, cause. We're not gonna be unfair about it. And actually, it's a small fraction compared to what we should be getting. We should be. We could be asking for much more. But for the sake of relationships that we've had with a lot of really good countries, we're doing the way I do it. But we could be getting a lot more. We could ask for a lot more than what we're asking for."
According to my fish translator, what he is saying is that the tariff meme is getting old and boring, he's declaring victory, and it's time to find different fake wars to win.
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Finally!
Nate Silver will never be included in this group- don't bother posting his garbage.
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Oldrunningguy wrote:
REPORTER: What happened to 90 trade deals in 90 days?
TRUMP: It's all done. I told you we'll make some deals, but for the most part we're gonna send a letter."The Art of Sending Letters"
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Oldrunningguy wrote:
El Runkin wrote:
He is the Tariff Man. Trump's tariffs have single-handedly saved the economy from the Biden-Obama-Clinton socialist elite treachery policies and restored market capitalism free from government regulation and interference. It's too bad all the liberal tariff-bashers can't see the Truth in front of their own eyes.
Trump: I could announce 50-100 deals right now because I'm the shopkeeper and I keep the store. They can go shopping or they don’t have to go shopping because everyone wants to shop here. This is like a beautiful store.
It occurs to me that if a fiction writer wrote a story with a U.S. president who's said a tiny fraction of the very dumb and/or obviously dishonest things that Trump has and still maintained huge support, it would be understandably criticized for being far too unrealistic.
And yet.....
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//hohoho// wrote:
El Runkin wrote:
He is the Tariff Man. Trump's tariffs have single-handedly saved the economy from the Biden-Obama-Clinton socialist elite treachery policies and restored market capitalism free from government regulation and interference. It's too bad all the liberal tariff-bashers can't see the Truth in front of their own eyes.
This has to be a troll? I don't know anymore though. It's exactly the sort of contradictory mess that a Trump voter would say.
Yes and yes.
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El Runkin wrote:
Oldrunningguy wrote:
Holy crapola! Read Trumps full response to a question on his 90 tariff deals in 90 days.
"Oh, we've spoken to everybody. We know every. It's all done. I told you. I told you we'll make some deals, but for the most part we're gonna send a letter. We're gonna say, 'Welcome to the United States. If you'd like to participate in the greatest, most successful country ever.' I mean, we're doing better than ever. We have. I don't think. And you're gonna see these numbers soon. We've never had numbers like this. We've never had investment like this. Uh, we have more than 90. We're gonna have much more than 90. But most of those are gonna be sent a letter. This is exactly what I said. Now, we've made a deal with United Kingdom. We've made a deal with China. We've made a deal. We're close to making a deal with India. Others, we've met with, and we don't think we're gonna be able to make a deal. So, we just send them a letter. 'Do you wanna, do you wanna play ball? This is what you have to pay.' So, we're, as far as I'm concerned, we're done. We're sending out letters to various countries, telling them how much tariffs they have to pay. Some will maybe adjust a little bit depending if they have a, you know, cause. We're not gonna be unfair about it. And actually, it's a small fraction compared to what we should be getting. We should be. We could be asking for much more. But for the sake of relationships that we've had with a lot of really good countries, we're doing the way I do it. But we could be getting a lot more. We could ask for a lot more than what we're asking for."
According to my fish translator, what he is saying is that the tariff meme is getting old and boring, he's declaring victory, and it's time to find different fake wars to win.
....a few more utterly meaningless 2 week promises to make.
Not sure what made tariffs special, and it was a 90 day, equally bogus, promise?
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Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Finally!
Nate Silver will never be included in this group- don't bother posting his garbage.
-6 approval rating according to Rasmussen - one of the accurate pollsters! (a 12 point drop from inauguration). Only members of the idiot cult still support the fat orange moron.
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RossiCheated wrote:
Tariff Man wrote:
Stopping the "raiding" of the wealth of our great nation by taxing the American people through tariffs.
"Taking in billions in tariffs" that he seems to think comes from the other countries, when we all know it comes from all of us Americans.
So. Much. Winning.
Our buying power is going down the toilet.
Question of the Day: In a "great country," how many hundreds of times can you lie to the citizenry about other countries paying tariffs and not see your approval ratings drop a point?
Great, indeed.
AND SMART !!
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Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Uh huh.
And how would the great Ronald Reagan fare in a Republican primary today?
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El Runkin wrote:
Oldrunningguy wrote:
Holy crapola! Read Trumps full response to a question on his 90 tariff deals in 90 days.
"Oh, we've spoken to everybody. We know every. It's all done. I told you. I told you we'll make some deals, but for the most part we're gonna send a letter. We're gonna say, 'Welcome to the United States. If you'd like to participate in the greatest, most successful country ever.' I mean, we're doing better than ever. We have. I don't think. And you're gonna see these numbers soon. We've never had numbers like this. We've never had investment like this. Uh, we have more than 90. We're gonna have much more than 90. But most of those are gonna be sent a letter. This is exactly what I said. Now, we've made a deal with United Kingdom. We've made a deal with China. We've made a deal. We're close to making a deal with India. Others, we've met with, and we don't think we're gonna be able to make a deal. So, we just send them a letter. 'Do you wanna, do you wanna play ball? This is what you have to pay.' So, we're, as far as I'm concerned, we're done. We're sending out letters to various countries, telling them how much tariffs they have to pay. Some will maybe adjust a little bit depending if they have a, you know, cause. We're not gonna be unfair about it. And actually, it's a small fraction compared to what we should be getting. We should be. We could be asking for much more. But for the sake of relationships that we've had with a lot of really good countries, we're doing the way I do it. But we could be getting a lot more. We could ask for a lot more than what we're asking for."
According to my fish translator, what he is saying is that the tariff meme is getting old and boring, he's declaring victory, and it's time to find different fake wars to win.
Trump: 'Do you wanna, do you wanna play ball? This is what you have to pay.'
1) Has anything ever sounded more like a mobster shakedown than that?
2) It really means "Do you wanna play ball? This is what YOU HAVE TO FORCE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO PAY."
It is a roundabout way to tax the American people while looking like he is bullying some other countries.
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Oldrunningguy wrote:
Holy crapola! Read Trumps full response to a question on his 90 tariff deals in 90 days.
"Oh, we've spoken to everybody. We know every. It's all done. I told you. I told you we'll make some deals, but for the most part we're gonna send a letter. We're gonna say, 'Welcome to the United States. If you'd like to participate in the greatest, most successful country ever.' I mean, we're doing better than ever. We have. I don't think. And you're gonna see these numbers soon. We've never had numbers like this. We've never had investment like this. Uh, we have more than 90. We're gonna have much more than 90. But most of those are gonna be sent a letter. This is exactly what I said. Now, we've made a deal with United Kingdom. We've made a deal with China. We've made a deal. We're close to making a deal with India. Others, we've met with, and we don't think we're gonna be able to make a deal. So, we just send them a letter. 'Do you wanna, do you wanna play ball? This is what you have to pay.' So, we're, as far as I'm concerned, we're done. We're sending out letters to various countries, telling them how much tariffs they have to pay. Some will maybe adjust a little bit depending if they have a, you know, cause. We're not gonna be unfair about it. And actually, it's a small fraction compared to what we should be getting. We should be. We could be asking for much more. But for the sake of relationships that we've had with a lot of really good countries, we're doing the way I do it. But we could be getting a lot more. We could ask for a lot more than what we're asking for."
It's interesting that that mass of typical verbal dogsh** from Trump is the essentially the exact same thing as I can imagine some glossy promotional brochure or video about Trump University (or any other Trump product). Transparent crap layered on top of transparent crap, and people still buy it.
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RossiCheated wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Uh huh.
And how would the great Ronald Reagan fare in a Republican primary today?
Reagan the RINO.
Of course.
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Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Today's leader of conservatives is a serial adulterer, convicted felon, bankrupt businessman, heathen, and an overall low character guy. So yes, conservatives have changed over time too.
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RossiCheated wrote:
El Runkin wrote:
According to my fish translator, what he is saying is that the tariff meme is getting old and boring, he's declaring victory, and it's time to find different fake wars to win.
Trump: 'Do you wanna, do you wanna play ball? This is what you have to pay.'
1) Has anything ever sounded more like a mobster shakedown than that?
2) It really means "Do you wanna play ball? This is what YOU HAVE TO FORCE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO PAY."
It is a roundabout way to tax the American people while looking like he is bullying some other countries.
Compare and contrast with the hundreds or thousands of utterances annually from politicians and journalists and pundits: "The American people aren't stupid, ....."
Yeah, right.
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You don’t want black people & women to have the right to vote
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Nnonequals wrote:
Oldrunningguy wrote:
Holy crapola! Read Trumps full response to a question on his 90 tariff deals in 90 days.
"Oh, we've spoken to everybody. We know every. It's all done. I told you. I told you we'll make some deals, but for the most part we're gonna send a letter. We're gonna say, 'Welcome to the United States. If you'd like to participate in the greatest, most successful country ever.' I mean, we're doing better than ever. We have. I don't think. And you're gonna see these numbers soon. We've never had numbers like this. We've never had investment like this. Uh, we have more than 90. We're gonna have much more than 90. But most of those are gonna be sent a letter. This is exactly what I said. Now, we've made a deal with United Kingdom. We've made a deal with China. We've made a deal. We're close to making a deal with India. Others, we've met with, and we don't think we're gonna be able to make a deal. So, we just send them a letter. 'Do you wanna, do you wanna play ball? This is what you have to pay.' So, we're, as far as I'm concerned, we're done. We're sending out letters to various countries, telling them how much tariffs they have to pay. Some will maybe adjust a little bit depending if they have a, you know, cause. We're not gonna be unfair about it. And actually, it's a small fraction compared to what we should be getting. We should be. We could be asking for much more. But for the sake of relationships that we've had with a lot of really good countries, we're doing the way I do it. But we could be getting a lot more. We could ask for a lot more than what we're asking for."
It's interesting that that mass of typical verbal dogsh** from Trump is the essentially the exact same thing as I can imagine some glossy promotional brochure or video about Trump University (or any other Trump product). Transparent crap layered on top of transparent crap, and people still buy it.
At this point, you have to wonder what would have happened had Trump not gone on his whole tariff escapade. The economy coming out of the Biden admin had a lot of momentum, so much so that it has been able to withstand the shocks from the Trump tariffs (and disruptions in labor markets from ICE raids, etc.). If Trump just had his trade reps quietly negotiate deals without all the tariff nonsense and did his big tax cuts/slash regulations, economic growth would have probably accelerated and the markets would be much higher. Only issue would then have been whether this would have been inflationary, which is not clear.
Instead, the markets are just doing a "keep calm and carry on" routine. Businesses have been able to manage tariffs by balancing price increases with taking a hit on profits. And on the consumer level, things are pretty crazy. I saw the price of my favorite sparkling water go up by a dollar for a eight pack of cans. There was a news story that had the maker attribute the price hike to tariffs on aluminum. Then, a few weeks later, it was on a buy two get one free sale. The guy at the grocery store said that when the price went up, people stopped buying the soda and they had to put it on sale. But all these whipsaws are not sustainable. Eventually companies will have to answer to investors and either take losses or scale back production and raise prices. But this didn't have to happen at all.
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