Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

agip wrote:

hey guys! more indictments from Mueller!

Maybe...maybe...maybe...this isn't a witchhunt.

Just something to consider while you ride roughshod over virtually every American value.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/politics/russia-investigation-indictments/index.html

12 Russian intel officers indicted in Mueller "probe" - of course nothing will happen here because we can't force people from other countries to show up to court. So it's all for not - and still no connection to Trump. Waste of money.

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

right, except his nat sec advisor and campaign manager.

other than those, no connection to trump

oh wait,. page, papadopulous DID have a connection to trump and his campaign.

jeez. what a crooked bunch of unamerican morans.

meaning you.

yesIguess wrote:

Conservative here. The only difference between Trump and other politicians is that when he lies, he makes no serious effort to hide it. Unlike Obama, who could somehow make 3/8 of the country believe it was a good idea to give billions of dollars to a corrupt dictator. Or make people believe that Benghazi was caused by some youtube video. We all support liars if they're in our party. Fact of the matter is, I'll take a liar who creates jobs and strengthens security than a liar whose only experience was a community organizer. Nobody lied more than that fraud Barrack Hussein Obama.

That is one difference, however not the main difference. The main difference is the quantity of the lies. As documented by factcheck.org and other fact checkers, Trump lies or states incorrect information on approximately 2/3 of the claims he is checked on. Most other political figures (from both parties) are in the 20 to 30% range.

Someone who is wrong that often should not be the leader of any organization, not to mention the leader of the free world.

yesIguess wrote:

Conservative here. The only difference between Trump and other politicians is that when he lies, he makes no serious effort to hide it. Unlike Obama, who could somehow make 3/8 of the country believe it was a good idea to give billions of dollars to a corrupt dictator. Or make people believe that Benghazi was caused by some youtube video. We all support liars if they're in our party. Fact of the matter is, I'll take a liar who creates jobs and strengthens security than a liar whose only experience was a community organizer. Nobody lied more than that fraud Barrack Hussein Obama.

There is a certain level of lying that is a given for a politician. Donald Trump is WAY beyond that, and there is not equivalency with him and any politician. Fact checkers do not support your view that Obama lied more than anyone...not even close. Trump is closing in on 4000 since he took office. Obama had 18 confirmed lies in 8 years. What if those 18 are really just a tenth of what he really told? Ok...180 for Obama in 8 years vs. almost 4000 in less than a year and a half for Trump.

Also, stuff Trump is lying about is big time serious...AND not so serious as he lies about all things big and small.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

agip wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

12 Russian intel officers indicted in Mueller "probe" - of course nothing will happen here because we can't force people from other countries to show up to court. So it's all for not - and still no connection to Trump. Waste of money.

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

right, except his nat sec advisor and campaign manager.

other than those, no connection to trump

oh wait,. page, papadopulous DID have a connection to trump and his campaign.

jeez. what a crooked bunch of unamerican morans.

meaning you.

Manafort was indicted for what he did 12 years ago

Flynn lied to the FBI- not Trump campaign related

Papadopoulos made false statements to the FBI- not Trump campaign related

Try again, moran.

Why doesn't Mueller ask Obama why he gave his cyber chief a stand down order on Russian meddling in summer of 2016? Mueller indicts 12 Russians just as Trump is to meet Putin. Optics are too obvious here. (And before you libs say "fake news", the cyber chief himself admits this)

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said told reporters that "there was a clear commitment to NATO by all" at an emergency session of the military alliance. The US president requested allies increase their spending to 2 per cent of GDP immediately, instead of by 2024, and eventually double spending to 4 per cent.

https://www.thenational.ae/world/europe/trump-shocks-nato-allies-with-demand-they-double-their-defence-budgets-1.749591

Hey Rigged, you felt the need to highlight that Merkel said that "there was a clear commitment to NATO by all"? This is news? When was the last time that a major NATO nation said differently?

And Trump requested an increase in spending? This is news? Or do you think that is the same thing as "NATO General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg says "because of Trump's leadership" that European Allies and Canada will add $266 billion in their defense budgets from now until 2024 and 8 allies will spend as much as 2% of their GDPs in 2018." - which is what you claimed earlier?

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So again, Rigged, why were you blatantly lying? Is it because you admire Trump and his lying ways so much? Are you trying to keep up with Lying Gary's lies?

Seriously, it seems that sometimes you do not lie and occasionally even have a valid point to make. But then you fall into full "Lying Gary" mode. Why?

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said told reporters that "there was a clear commitment to NATO by all" at an emergency session of the military alliance. The US president requested allies increase their spending to 2 per cent of GDP immediately, instead of by 2024, and eventually double spending to 4 per cent.

https://www.thenational.ae/world/europe/trump-shocks-nato-allies-with-demand-they-double-their-defence-budgets-1.749591

Good Lord. Merkel was pushing back on Trump by saying that because she was defending the legitimacy of NATO. She wasn't giving Trump credit for anything. He's a buffoon. Don't be one also. No country has increased its giving to NATO based on anything Trump said.

agip wrote:

hey guys! more indictments from Mueller!

Maybe...maybe...maybe...this isn't a witchhunt.

Just something to consider while you ride roughshod over virtually every American value.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/politics/russia-investigation-indictments/index.html

Maybe it’s more Russian trolls. That’ll help.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

12 Russian intel officers indicted in Mueller "probe" - of course nothing will happen here because we can't force people from other countries to show up to court. So it's all for not - and still no connection to Trump. Waste of money.

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Did you just say, "all for not"? Seriously? Are you trying to convince folks on here that you are a moron? Here's a hint for you - I think they already know that.

Here's another hint for you - "all for naught."

Moron

Interesting that you have some sort of numerical threshold for lying.

People of high moral character don’t have this view.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

agip wrote:

hey guys! more indictments from Mueller!

Maybe...maybe...maybe...this isn't a witchhunt.

Just something to consider while you ride roughshod over virtually every American value.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/politics/russia-investigation-indictments/index.html

12 Russian intel officers indicted in Mueller "probe" - of course nothing will happen here because we can't force people from other countries to show up to court. So it's all for not - and still no connection to Trump. Waste of money.

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Wow. Do you hate America? Do you think we are better off controlled by Russia? It doesn't matter that we can't force these people to come here for court. Does that mean you don't apply the law to them FOR BREAKING OUR ELECTION LAWS? Do you realize that now that these people have been indicted they won't be able to legally leave Russia ever the rest of their lives or they risk being arrested by Interpol? What a b!tch that is...confined to Russia forever.

Waste of money? If nothing else EVER comes of this, we have told the world that we have the ability to know if you have influenced our elections, hacked our computers, etc. These people were communicating with Americans. Don't you want to know who those Americans are?

You are willing to sacrifice our national security and sanctity of our elections because you want to continue to support a lying criminal president?

Snap out of it!

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

agip wrote:

right, except his nat sec advisor and campaign manager.

other than those, no connection to trump

oh wait,. page, papadopulous DID have a connection to trump and his campaign.

jeez. what a crooked bunch of unamerican morans.

meaning you.

Manafort was indicted for what he did 12 years ago

Flynn lied to the FBI- not Trump campaign related

Papadopoulos made false statements to the FBI- not Trump campaign related

Wow again. You can not be this naive. All these criminals just happen to be associated with Trump, but he's squeaky clean?

Deep down you know you are fighting a losing battle here.

Just admit you made a mistake on Trump. He is a traitor. It will all come out. Manafort will eventually be charged with conspiracy with Russia along with Don Jr. and Kushner. Trump himself will only avoid the conspiracy charge if for some reason he was actually competent with regard to keeping his fingerprints off of it, and I don't think that will be the case.

Your lack of understanding about the trouble Trump is in is astounding. Closing your eyes doesn't make it go away.

Janie George wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

There is a certain level of lying that is a given for a politician. Donald Trump is WAY beyond that, and there is not equivalency with him and any politician. Fact checkers do not support your view that Obama lied more than anyone...not even close. Trump is closing in on 4000 since he took office. Obama had 18 confirmed lies in 8 years. What if those 18 are really just a tenth of what he really told? Ok...180 for Obama in 8 years vs. almost 4000 in less than a year and a half for Trump.

Also, stuff Trump is lying about is big time serious...AND not so serious as he lies about all things big and small.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Interesting that you have some sort of numerical threshold for lying.

People of high moral character don’t have this view.

Lying is bad. I do not do it. I am not excusing Obama's lies at all. I am responding that he didn't lie as much as Trump does because that poster said Obama was the biggest liar of them all. That is simply not true and it is demonstrably so.

Flagpole wrote:

Lying is bad. I do not do it. I am not excusing Obama's lies at all. I am responding that he didn't lie as much as Trump does because that poster said Obama was the biggest liar of them all. That is simply not true and it is demonstrably so.

Lying is NOT necessarily bad.

Obvious example - you are hiding some Jewish people in your attic when the Nazi SS comes knocking and asking if you have any Jews in your house.

It is very easy to come up with any number of other examples where lying is not only 'not bad' but is genuinely good.

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Further, every single human being above the age of two does occasionally lie.

Trollimator wrote:

agip wrote:

hey guys! more indictments from Mueller!

Maybe...maybe...maybe...this isn't a witchhunt.

Just something to consider while you ride roughshod over virtually every American value.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/politics/russia-investigation-indictments/index.html

Maybe it’s more Russian trolls. That’ll help.

Nailed it.

Flagpole wrote:

Janie George wrote:

Interesting that you have some sort of numerical threshold for lying.

People of high moral character don’t have this view.

Lying is bad. I do not do it. I am not excusing Obama's lies at all. I am responding that he didn't lie as much as Trump does because that poster said Obama was the biggest liar of them all. That is simply not true and it is demonstrably so.

You’ve done it several times on this thread.

PIO! wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Lying is bad. I do not do it. I am not excusing Obama's lies at all. I am responding that he didn't lie as much as Trump does because that poster said Obama was the biggest liar of them all. That is simply not true and it is demonstrably so.

Lying is NOT necessarily bad.

Obvious example - you are hiding some Jewish people in your attic when the Nazi SS comes knocking and asking if you have any Jews in your house.

It is very easy to come up with any number of other examples where lying is not only 'not bad' but is genuinely good.

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Further, every single human being above the age of two does occasionally lie.

INCORRECT!

Flagpole already has said that he does not lie.

PIO! wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Lying is bad. I do not do it. I am not excusing Obama's lies at all. I am responding that he didn't lie as much as Trump does because that poster said Obama was the biggest liar of them all. That is simply not true and it is demonstrably so.

Lying is NOT necessarily bad.

Obvious example - you are hiding some Jewish people in your attic when the Nazi SS comes knocking and asking if you have any Jews in your house.

It is very easy to come up with any number of other examples where lying is not only 'not bad' but is genuinely good.

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Further, every single human being above the age of two does occasionally lie.

There are exceptions, but generally speaking, lying is bad.

Not True wrote:

PIO! wrote:

Lying is NOT necessarily bad.

Obvious example - you are hiding some Jewish people in your attic when the Nazi SS comes knocking and asking if you have any Jews in your house.

It is very easy to come up with any number of other examples where lying is not only 'not bad' but is genuinely good.

///

Further, every single human being above the age of two does occasionally lie.

INCORRECT!

Flagpole already has said that he does not lie.

CORRECT!

Obama asked his cyber chief to stand down. Wow, what a patriot! You obviously see nothing wrong with Obama's decision. Trump hasn't been indicted and will NEVER be indicted. Get that through your thick head. The DNC refused to allow the FBI to examine their servers – which has always seemed more than a bit odd. Mueller hasn't examined the DNC servers either.

The only thing coming is the Flagpolian Flop.

Mueller never

Clownpole forever