The Official Men's 1500m Thread

Yes centro did have big jumps from 2010 to 2011, but he ran 3:36 in 2009. 3:36 to 3:34 in 2 years is not that big.

asdfsadf wrote:

I agree. Unless he was entirely exhausted, I could not understand why it did not look like he was totally gutting it out in the last 10metres.

have uou ever watched centro run before? He was definitely maxed out. The beauty of him is that he always looked relaxed. COME ON SON!

He hasn't tested positive, so legally he is clean. You can speculate all you want, but the Algerian won the gold today.

asdfasdfasdfasdf wrote:

um2 wrote:

he went from 1:46 to 1:43 and 3:32 to 3:30 in a year...there is no way he is clean.

Good lord a whole two second personal best! You know Manzano went from 3:36 to 3:33 in one year. Webb went from like 1:47 to 1:43 in a year.

yes... but they are Americans...

Audax wrote:

Any chance that someone protests Makhloufi's race itself? He pushed a number of people, especially when he split some people trying to get ahead. He never had a step, let alone a clear alley, yet he went through more than once. If that happens, he might lose the gold.

they will never win that protest if they do go through...that being said the algerian acted like a total jack ass his entire time on the track, would not mind at all seeing him get stripped of his gold and banned for life on a positive drug test.

The BBC interview was a total D1ck:

"You won in unbelievable fashion, by quite a large margin. Why?" - shove mic in his face

"Algeria is known for its 1500m runner, you're a new name to us though." - shove mic in his face

According to the BBC the Algerian ran 25.1 for the 200m from 1200-1400m

I thought the same thing with the slo mo replay. Maybe part of it though is just how good and smooth his form is. He's fast because he doesn't tighten up. He has been injured and did lean at the end....but the race overall still looked odd to me too

Porky wrote:

I am not trying to be mean, but something seemed odd about that race. Centro didn't look like he wanted a medal. Did that look really odd to anyone else?

Easily the dumbest damn post I've ever seen on this board. Seriously? These runners hop in the final and don't "look" like they "want to medal"? lol...wow

my feed wasn't that good but it looked like 2:41 at the bell, and the official last 400m was 52.78, I think.

makhloufi was just miles above everyone else, as we saw in the semis, and that makes it very suspicious. the crowd could barely cheer him. and the IOC tried to avoid this happening by dqing him after the 800m (now they have to wait on the doping control) but their own exception allowed him back in. shame about kiprop being robbed the triumph of his life in beijing, getting the gold only later without ceremony, and being injured here and running 3:42. surprising that chepseba and kiplagat and willis and obviously kiprop all ran poorly here. And how about Manzano? This is a guy who always comes up big at U.S. champs but is really up and down otherwise with a few terrible results so you can't count on him, but he is a great, great kicker and won the silver by a good margin, in line for a possible gold. Who knows whether Iguider will not subsequently be stripped of his medal as well but he's been on the scene for awhile. Too bad about Centro being edged out of a second bronze by .04 (3:35.13 to 3:35.17) but he could well wind up with bronze or even silver in the end. a great, great result for the United States even without either of our 3:30 guys in there.

Commentators said he split 25sec from 1200m-1400m, and then picked up more speed in the last 100m. In the replay they're all together at 300m to go and then there's 10-15m between the Algerian and the rest of the field within 100m.

Dirtiest performance I've seen.

um2 wrote:

america, f**k yeah wrote:

I keep hearing the Algerian is a doper (and this seems like a safe bet), but why the certainty about him? Was he busted in the past?

he went from 1:46 to 1:43 and 3:32 to 3:30 in a year...there is no way he is clean.

Didn't Webb do that?

The PR progression isn't the point. The evidence is in his blazing semifinal finish and the fact that he ran 12.xx in the middle of the fvcking backstretch and didn't slow up at all. Even Kiplagat, the Ethiopian, and Iguider had no chance of staying with him. I'm gonna start calling this clown Ramzi the second, because anyone with half a brain can see where this is headed.

goodquestionn wrote:

He hasn't tested positive, so legally he is clean. You can speculate all you want, but the Algerian won the gold today.

Anyone who has read my posts here over the years knows I am the absolute LAST person to accuse anyone of doping without ample evidence. Heck, I still defend Salazar! But this stinks to high heaven. No way does someone come out of nowhere and dominate all three rounds like that and still have lots of gas in the tank. No one since Lasse Viren, I suppose.

Cram is literally going to explode in a fit of rage. He's not happy with this result. And he's got everyone else at BBC in on the act.

Of course there's still every chance that he's dirty as fook but won't be caught.

does this mean anything wrote:

asdfasdfasdfasdf wrote:

Good lord a whole two second personal best! You know Manzano went from 3:36 to 3:33 in one year. Webb went from like 1:47 to 1:43 in a year.

yes... but they are Americans...

Just curious, but what were your thoughts on Ramzi when he appeared out of nowhere and was toying with elite fields?

Kiprop ran like a moron. 1st 2 laps run at club level pace and he's at the back. Then gives up at the bell!

..and he lost me a bet

However doped the winner is the Kenyan's could have shared the pace and all run better than they did and most likely dropped him

That this guy won is beyond appalling. I had never even heard of him until the heats for the 1500m. A tragic result for the sport. I am close to tears. I hope future testing will make right the results as they should have been. As of this race, I have given up on athletics - integrity, honesty, and purity of intention and performance are no longer to be found in athletics. Today, 25 minutes ago, was my very last viewing of a televised track championship. No more, ever again.

Ramzi improved from 3:39(!!!) to 3:30 in one year.

The Algerian improved by 2 seconds in one year.

Big difference.