D3 Atlantic Region 2012 XC

GoldCoast wrote:

Well Lets say you assume the region sends 4.

Geneseo, Cortland, Rochester, NYU

Your best 10 individuals right now not on those teams are

Rakoc, ST. Lawrence

Bickell, Ithaca

Sidebottom, TCNJ

Gallagher, TCNJ

Levitz, RPI

Paterson, St. Lawrence

Hitchcock, Ithaca

Jiak, Buff State

Ngabo, Buff State

Payne, Utica College

If it sends 5, assume St. Lawrence

Thats 2 spots in that 10, so i would add

Martin, Plattsburgh

Shearer, Plattsburgh

At pre-regionals, Jiak beat this Hitchcock kid by over 40 seconds. Let's not be predicting too much just b/c he's a decent freshman for a change. He's not even his own team's second guy from what I can see.

I say:

Rakoc

Bickell

Jiak

Patterson

Ngabo

Payne

then maybe the TCNJ guys, maybe Geary from Ithaca if he can learn to run longer than a mile. Hard to say.

Anyone think Rochester will burn themselves out before October? 5 races in a row and it doesn't look like they're sitting anyone out, and we all established that they don't tempo races... Interested to see how they perform these next two weeks.

Rochester hasn't traditionally run their top guys at Roberts Wesleyan in years past, so it would be surprising to see them do so this year. That's usually a pretty weak meet so it will be interesting to see who actually runs for them, but it wouldnt be a surprise to see them leave the front guys at home.

Omar wrote:

Anyone think Rochester will burn themselves out before October? 5 races in a row and it doesn't look like they're sitting anyone out, and we all established that they don't tempo races... Interested to see how they perform these next two weeks.

Rochester goes to Carnegie Mellon next week. CM is currently 4th in the Mideast region. Geneseo and Ithaca go to Oberlin in 2 weeks. That will give the atlantic region a sense of where it is.

Omar wrote:

Anyone think Rochester will burn themselves out before October? 5 races in a row and it doesn't look like they're sitting anyone out, and we all established that they don't tempo races... Interested to see how they perform these next two weeks.

The performance of the Cornell women at Paul Short makes me even more impressed with how SLU's women ran at URochester. They're tough.

Cortland results in the brown race..umm...

you know, 4th dimension sirloin?

cortland didnt blow us away this weekend at paul short, so we can only assume they were tempoing. rpi's results seem to have their top guys running, but based on their times and how good my gut tells me rpi should be i have to assume that they actually ran a b team in the guise of their top runners.

my atlantic regional rankings:

geneseo

cortland

rpi/rochester - too close to call this early

dickinson

i'm pretty sure that was like RPI's C or D team. North Central better watch out

table wrote:

So I would like to throw Rakoc as a top 5 in the region....like i said a few months ago.

You are giving yourself credit for picking the top returner from last years regionals to be a top five finisher this year. Way to go out on a limb!

RPI's Tyler Gumina looked to have a off day. He is a good runner and could shake things up if he rebounds to be their second or third guy once again. Also, this was their first 8k. Maybe rust played a role in their poor performance? Just playing devil's advocate. I still don't think they are a national caliber team but I like them better than Ithaca.

I was wrong about Brockport. Wow. They looked bad.

Individual qualifier from last year, Ryan Millar of Plattsbugh debuted today (27:15). Does he have enough time to get back into shape to make a run at a second nationals birth?

Hashem Zikery from Hamilton beat all the RPI guys over 5k and lost to Marcantonio by ten seconds over 6k. He is in the individual qualifier picture. Didn't see his name in the Williams results, though. Injured or day off?

SLU looked better than I expected. They did beat Amherst who was ranked ahead of them in the nation (but only 6 in the NE regional poll). If they are 5th but less than 50 points back of 4th at regionals I bet we get five schools.

I agree with "Nope"'s rankings at the top.

1. Geneseo

2. NYU

3. Rochester

4. Cortland

5. SLU

6. RPI

7. TCNJ

8. Buff State

9. Ithaca

10. Oneonta

Where are the results from the brown race?

sliefnSEI wrote:

Where are the results from the brown race?

Men

Women

squirrelkiller69 wrote:

i'm pretty sure that was like RPI's C or D team. North Central better watch out

Post of the Year.

We knew the world would not be the same. Few people laughed, few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.

Geneseo throws down against no competition today.

1 Lee Berube Geneseo Alumni 24:28.8 4:56

2 1 Alex Brimstein Geneseo 24:40.2 4:58

3 2 Tom Clark Geneseo 25:16.5 5:06

4 3 Cohen Miles-Rath Geneseo 25:23.4 5:07

5 4 Ryan Moynihan Geneseo 25:26.9 5:08

6 5 Chris Mateer Geneseo 25:31.9 5:09

7 6 Patrick Wortner Geneseo 25:36.9 5:10

8 Bobby Henchen Geneseo Alumni 25:58.0 5:14

9 7 Chris Carter Geneseo 26:07.5 5:16

Fast times for Letch. I think only Kosgei, Heymann and Maher (regionals 2009) had gone sub-25:00 on the course before this meet. Geneseo looks like the clear number 1 in the region. Compare times to regionals 2009:

kibitzer wrote:

Oof. NYU women finish seventh of fifteen. Same thing: good (though not *as* good) through three, then a break.

No idea how this will affect coming rankings.

http://www.finishright.com/XC/12/WILLIAMSXC12.htm

Well, now I know "how the rankings were affected": NYU's women went from #27 to #22 nationally (y'know, given that all the teams ahead of them at this meet were ranked higher), and moved up a spot in the Region poll!

I would say that the UAA meet--as usual--will be intense for both sexes, particularly given the UR women's resurgence...

letchworth wrote:

http://www.leonetiming.com/2012/XC/GeneseoMen.htm

Geneseo throws down against no competition today.

1 Lee Berube Geneseo Alumni 24:28.8 4:56

2 1 Alex Brimstein Geneseo 24:40.2 4:58

3 2 Tom Clark Geneseo 25:16.5 5:06

4 3 Cohen Miles-Rath Geneseo 25:23.4 5:07

5 4 Ryan Moynihan Geneseo 25:26.9 5:08

6 5 Chris Mateer Geneseo 25:31.9 5:09

7 6 Patrick Wortner Geneseo 25:36.9 5:10

8 Bobby Henchen Geneseo Alumni 25:58.0 5:14

9 7 Chris Carter Geneseo 26:07.5 5:16

Fast times for Letch. I think only Kosgei, Heymann and Maher (regionals 2009) had gone sub-25:00 on the course before this meet. Geneseo looks like the clear number 1 in the region. Compare times to regionals 2009:

http://leonetiming.com/2009/XC/D3Regional/Men.txt

Geneseo's times match up pretty well with Cortland's 2008 National Championship team. Times from 2008 SUNYAC's at Letch:

1 Seth De Bois 25:00

2 Shamus Nally 25:01

3 Josh Henry 25:21

4 Justin Wager 25:21

5 Stephen Scrafford 25:35

6 Eric Stermer 25:40

7 Kyle O'Brien 25:42

Woodsie sure knows how to craft a team, i hope he didn't smoke a doobie and mess up the course again though!

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