Oh brother, “straw man” claims are a tired lib retort. What you endured, give me a break. Claim you are somehow disadvantaged to get things you haven’t earned. Like a fake woman getting a full ride athletic scholarship in a woman’s sport.
do you not understand what "straw man" means? you just underlined my point that this is right wing HS educated folks trying to weigh in on college educated folks deciding how their own sphere is run.
"straw man" is i am not very "woke" at all. you can claim i am, but i actually did not enjoy many aspects of my college career that ring "woke" any more than you would have.
but, i have seen how gays and nice kids get treated by bullies in the sports context. i think from that experience that the folks making these arguments sound too much like the bullies i remember. i want your nasty bullying out of sports.
i have in other contexts advocated creating a third sports category for gays, trans, wheelchairs, paralympians, special olympics, and anyone else the usual approach leaves out. i feel like everyone should get to play sports. i do not think this is "woke." i think it is "modern" as opposed to "stuck in 1950."
i think you "pretend" you want these kids back in male category when you know quite well they won't play that way, and it's basically a "shadow ban." you're kicking most trans out of sports. most people are not going to live lives as women then play as men after school.
i find that bullying approach disgusting.
i do not take seriously any approach to this issue that isn't updated to modern day and basically forcing religion into the games under the guise of protecting women.
You are not very smart. An intelligent person would understand that male bodies will always be superior to a female. So the supposition of your’s is false at the onset. But yours is nothing more than a lunatic social movement. People are tired of this nonsense. Boise State is just the beginning of the end of the lunatic trans movement.
as the one poster made clear with the comments suggesting psychopathology of trans folks, this is not the narrow "sports" issue you claim, it's a general bigotry of their whole daily lives. in other contexts you do non-sports stuff like bathroom bans, letting parents weigh in on their names during the school day, and otherwise trying to make the rest of their lives hell. the sports part is merely the popular "hook" for the rest of your overall mission.
Hogwash. And lunatics like you see nothing wrong with the bigotry of men competing in women’s sports. You are just a social activist from the lunatic trans-lobby.
The trans activist inferred my posts were anti gay. Clearly one of the great female athletes of all time, openly gay, saw there is no grounds for moral equivalency here.
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the "woke mind virus" thing is funny. my science classes were not woke. my math classes were not woke. my business classes were not woke. my politics classses were not woke. my PE/coaching classes were not woke. my art classes were actually not woke. a minority of my humanities classes were woke. the supposed wokeness comes to roughly a semester of my college experience, and i actually didn't like those handful of classes.
y'all don't have a clue, really. you thought i found the more wacky classes i had convincing?
because, well, i can think for myself. just like when i had blatantly conservative presentations of government and economics in HS by republican teachers.
i don't believe in a jillion things the supposedly woke believe, eg, eliminating criminal treatment of shoplifters.
i simply think, based on experience that actually began before college -- HS really -- that many conservatives are anti-LGBTQ bigots who try to run off or make the lives hell of gay or sensitive teammates. what has happened since then is they are starting to get mainstreamed. you don't like it, so you're pouting to the media and the public trying to de-queer sports. then de-queer the world. in reality it's one poor little kid in one event in the whole state. having seen the bullying i am not putting up with your crap.
that's not "woke," that's modern and humane. i think the nasty way you treat me underlines you are really, beneath the posturing of claimed morality, being nasty to these kids too, and are basically bullies at your core, trying to reduce participation rather than protect, encourage, and increase, the amount of kids in sports.
i see really a bunch of slurs. i think what i do on one issue ergo i am "woke," "nuts," or an "activist." none of which is in the ballpark as an accurate personal description.
no wonder you're going around slurring gay and trans folks.
i am not dumb enough to think this is some isolated issue. your party has worked up a lengthy enemies list. if you think any of 100 things you're "woke." even if you think the other 99 are out to lunch.
it's fascism where you're not allowed to freely think what you want without being declared something to be stamped out.
as the one poster made clear with the comments suggesting psychopathology of trans folks, this is not the narrow "sports" issue you claim, it's a general bigotry of their whole daily lives. in other contexts you do non-sports stuff like bathroom bans, letting parents weigh in on their names during the school day, and otherwise trying to make the rest of their lives hell. the sports part is merely the popular "hook" for the rest of your overall mission.
Hogwash. And lunatics like you see nothing wrong with the bigotry of men competing in women’s sports. You are just a social activist from the lunatic trans-lobby.
if i am a lobbyist where is my check? you wish.
i am joe citizen and i think what i think.
and let me be blunt. you have vented for pages on this thread. your points are already made. what we are seeing these few new pages is how you treat dissent.
setting aside bringing up bartsch is basically just bringing up boise player by player, ie, redundant..........boise forfeited 3 times, not just once. in doing so she also denied herself any chance at a final and a 4th game, and so on.
the implication she ended up literally one game and one kill short, is just not accurate.
that and the boise stats have her several short of the record, not 1, though i am not absolutely sure they include her last game.
also, to underline my point about the self-defeating politics here, bartsch, while recruited for the pros, has basically said she is so beat up she's probably done. and so her last NCAA game is some political stunt forfeit. what a crappy way to end your career.
No, her last meet ever was used to make a bold statement for females’ rights to compete against other females. Icons of female sports have stepped in to congratulate her on her bravery and sacrifice already.
the "woke mind virus" thing is funny. my science classes were not woke. my math classes were not woke. my business classes were not woke. my politics classses were not woke. my PE/coaching classes were not woke. my art classes were actually not woke. a minority of my humanities classes were woke. the supposed wokeness comes to roughly a semester of my college experience, and i actually didn't like those handful of classes.
y'all don't have a clue, really. you thought i found the more wacky classes i had convincing?
because, well, i can think for myself. just like when i had blatantly conservative presentations of government and economics in HS by republican teachers.
i don't believe in a jillion things the supposedly woke believe, eg, eliminating criminal treatment of shoplifters.
i simply think, based on experience that actually began before college -- HS really -- that many conservatives are anti-LGBTQ bigots who try to run off or make the lives hell of gay or sensitive teammates. what has happened since then is they are starting to get mainstreamed. you don't like it, so you're pouting to the media and the public trying to de-queer sports. then de-queer the world. in reality it's one poor little kid in one event in the whole state. having seen the bullying i am not putting up with your crap.
that's not "woke," that's modern and humane. i think the nasty way you treat me underlines you are really, beneath the posturing of claimed morality, being nasty to these kids too, and are basically bullies at your core, trying to reduce participation rather than protect, encourage, and increase, the amount of kids in sports.
You are arrogant if you think anyone really cares about your sexual lifestyle. The only thing normal people care about is having your chosen lifestyle shoved down their throat everywhere you turn. Get over your insecurities. Make your own way in life.
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the "woke mind virus" thing is funny. my science classes were not woke. my math classes were not woke. my business classes were not woke. my politics classses were not woke. my PE/coaching classes were not woke. my art classes were actually not woke. a minority of my humanities classes were woke. the supposed wokeness comes to roughly a semester of my college experience, and i actually didn't like those handful of classes.
y'all don't have a clue, really. you thought i found the more wacky classes i had convincing?
because, well, i can think for myself. just like when i had blatantly conservative presentations of government and economics in HS by republican teachers.
i don't believe in a jillion things the supposedly woke believe, eg, eliminating criminal treatment of shoplifters.
i simply think, based on experience that actually began before college -- HS really -- that many conservatives are anti-LGBTQ bigots who try to run off or make the lives hell of gay or sensitive teammates. what has happened since then is they are starting to get mainstreamed. you don't like it, so you're pouting to the media and the public trying to de-queer sports. then de-queer the world. in reality it's one poor little kid in one event in the whole state. having seen the bullying i am not putting up with your crap.
that's not "woke," that's modern and humane. i think the nasty way you treat me underlines you are really, beneath the posturing of claimed morality, being nasty to these kids too, and are basically bullies at your core, trying to reduce participation rather than protect, encourage, and increase, the amount of kids in sports.
You are arrogant if you think anyone really cares about your sexual lifestyle. The only thing normal people care about is having your chosen lifestyle shoved down their throat everywhere you turn. Get over your insecurities. Make your own way in life.
No one is shoving their lifestyle down anyone’s throat. Someone’s “lifestyle” isn’t chosen, anyway.
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