They took 5th at the D2 state meet with their #1,2,3,7 (who also ran a 4:25) being juniors I do understand that it likely won’t have much depth beyond its top 5 though.
Glendora also got a transfer Audet (4:33 1600, 9:58 3200). He will be a senior just like almost the rest of their varsity
Looks like a fun preview with a XC Relay on the 24th (5 man teams @ 2 miles each) at Redondo HS with Great Oak, Mira Costa, Redondo Union and JSerra. Maybe a glimpse of coming attractions for CA?
Here is a list of Cal boys team projections, which is described in detail in the thread "HS SpeedRating based on Cal XC merge to compare teams", but briefly this is the method: Trying to assess team relative strength based on total time or total speed rating is flawed because there is huge disparity in the pack density. So I tried to model scoring based on the pack density of past Cal state meet merges. A runner's score is based on the better of their relative marks of XC Speed Rating and 3200m (using a corrleation very similar to Tully's, but slightly tweaked to historical 3200m to Cal State meet historical data). The 1600m time is also used, but only as improvement to the above, and it is limited to improving the score by 20%. So if you have a great 1600m, but nothing really to show for 3200m or SR, you don't rate well in this system. There is no guesswork or personal adjustments. The best mark is then mapped to what place that would result in hypothetical merge. I did a large set of teams, but of course not every team. Here is the scoring of that straight projection, and I don't number them because I am not trying to say #18 is better than #20, rather just to get an idea of relative strengths of teams and find any teams that were stronger than I had previously thought. If you are thinking of another team not on this list, for comparison note that Oak Park has a 5 man team average at 3200m of 9:56, and they are #43 on this list. ###Team Scoring### Great Oak 288.2 ML King 325.4 Buchanan 341.7 Jesuit 398 Beckman 406.7 Mira Costa 473.5 Hart 539 Vacaville 548.3 Glendora 549.3 JSerra 551 Tesoro 566.1 Matilda Torres 595.3 Millikan 626.4 Trabuco Hills 663.6 Bellarmine 666.2 Woodbridge 727.7 De La Salle 731.9 West Torrance 734.3 Crescenta Valley 734.5 Menlo 761.1 Los Altos 773.1 Saugus 797.9 Loyola 803.6 Davis 822.5 Clovis East 824.5 Redondo Union 824.5 Ayala 873.7 Palisades Charter 880.2 Ventura 887.6 Foothill Technology 892.7 Oaks Christian 911.8 College Park 917.2 Mountain View 930.1 St. Ignatius 933.4 Santiago Corona 941.4 El Toro 955.6 Poly (Riverside) 977.9 Clovis North 998.2 Dos Pueblos 1015.1 Burroughs 1065.2 Miramonte 1077.5 West Ranch 1096.3 Oak Park 1100.8 McClatchy 1203.2 Aliso Niguel 1203.7 Granada 1307.2
Did I miss any teams that could score less than 900? Roughly a sub 9:50 5 man average.
Here is a list of Cal boys team projections, which is described in detail in the thread "HS SpeedRating based on Cal XC merge to compare teams", but briefly this is the method: Trying to assess team relative strength based on total time or total speed rating is flawed because there is huge disparity in the pack density. So I tried to model scoring based on the pack density of past Cal state meet merges. A runner's score is based on the better of their relative marks of XC Speed Rating and 3200m (using a corrleation very similar to Tully's, but slightly tweaked to historical 3200m to Cal State meet historical data). The 1600m time is also used, but only as improvement to the above, and it is limited to improving the score by 20%. So if you have a great 1600m, but nothing really to show for 3200m or SR, you don't rate well in this system. There is no guesswork or personal adjustments. The best mark is then mapped to what place that would result in hypothetical merge. I did a large set of teams, but of course not every team. Here is the scoring of that straight projection, and I don't number them because I am not trying to say #18 is better than #20, rather just to get an idea of relative strengths of teams and find any teams that were stronger than I had previously thought. If you are thinking of another team not on this list, for comparison note that Oak Park has a 5 man team average at 3200m of 9:56, and they are #43 on this list. ###Team Scoring### Great Oak 288.2 ML King 325.4 Buchanan 341.7 Jesuit 398 Beckman 406.7 Mira Costa 473.5 Hart 539 Vacaville 548.3 Glendora 549.3 JSerra 551 Tesoro 566.1 Matilda Torres 595.3 Millikan 626.4 Trabuco Hills 663.6 Bellarmine 666.2 Woodbridge 727.7 De La Salle 731.9 West Torrance 734.3 Crescenta Valley 734.5 Menlo 761.1 Los Altos 773.1 Saugus 797.9 Loyola 803.6 Davis 822.5 Clovis East 824.5 Redondo Union 824.5 Ayala 873.7 Palisades Charter 880.2 Ventura 887.6 Foothill Technology 892.7 Oaks Christian 911.8 College Park 917.2 Mountain View 930.1 St. Ignatius 933.4 Santiago Corona 941.4 El Toro 955.6 Poly (Riverside) 977.9 Clovis North 998.2 Dos Pueblos 1015.1 Burroughs 1065.2 Miramonte 1077.5 West Ranch 1096.3 Oak Park 1100.8 McClatchy 1203.2 Aliso Niguel 1203.7 Granada 1307.2
Did I miss any teams that could score less than 900? Roughly a sub 9:50 5 man average.
the thing about California is that it has insane depth team wise. Just one of these 700-900s teams could turn out to be insanely good, and it would be a game changer for the California region. The only other region that has similar depth to California is Southwest region. However, Southwest is more top heavy with teams like Herriman, Niwot and American Fork.
If anyone can do a girls team ranking, maybe rae or someone could do that, that will help. I personally don't know much about the girl teams this year but from tullyrunners I know individually we are very strong and team wise as well.
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Boys: Close race between Buchanan (77), Clovis North (81), Matilda Torres (86), Clovis East (94). Yosemite had only 4 guys in the varsity race (9:21, 9:28, 9:30, 9:40 - all seniors) but they don’t have a 5th runner. They had 2 other guys in the JV race.
Biggest surprise has to be Clovis North. They didn’t make the state meet last year and lost their best runner, but 2 of their guys who didn’t make varsity last year scored for them today
Biggest surprise has to be Clovis North. They didn’t make the state meet last year and lost their best runner, but 2 of their guys who didn’t make varsity last year scored for them today
Clovis North could have beat Buchanan. That’s wild.
Buchanan’s #1 guy who ran a 4:12 mile last spring and a 15:25 at Clovis in October was only their #5 today. Not sure what happened.
After all, it’s early in the season. August meets are to see who put in work in the summer and how well track times translated to XC, and we can already tell that Clovis North has all that.
The winner in the girl’s race was Buchanan’s freshman. Lomeli was struggling a lot last year but today she was second on the team. Now this team looks even stronger and deeper than some people thought.