It's hardly surprising that another American political institution - in this case only requiring 6 unelected officials - has taken away rights of millions of its citizens. All women. It fits well with a nation founded on such "principle", with over two hundred years of slavery. All black. Oppression is the American thing.
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wazzu1452 wrote:
Trump just delivered the biggest victory for conservatives in a generation
By allowing red states to resemble Ceaușescu"s 1980s Romania? Enjoy your victory.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
It's hardly surprising that another American political institution - in this case only requiring 6 unelected officials - has taken away rights of millions of its citizens. All women. It fits well with a nation founded on such "principle", with over two hundred years of slavery. All black. Oppression is the American thing.
You are truly showing your ignorance. Oppression was taking place looooong before the establishment of the United States, and it’s still going on to this day. Give me a break with the fake moral outrage.
Roe only applied to the first trimester. Did you know that? It’s going to the states where they can deal with it. There’s a thing called federalism. Abortion isn’t expressly written into the constitution, but oddly enough there is something in there about abolishing slavery.
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Wonderin' wrote:
Today's decision correctly interpreted the Constitution.
The Supreme Court of the early 1970s would disagree.
All this decision did is to ensure that the Supreme Court will rule things constitutional, and then unconstitutional, according to the ideological whim of the Court, every couple decades, going forward. The right to abortion will be back as soon as two conservative Justices are replaced with those leaning more in favor of those rights.
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Half true wrote:
Roe only applied to the first trimester
First 2 trimesters - which is much longer than most European countries allow abortions
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Armstronglivs wrote:
It's hardly surprising that another American political institution - in this case only requiring 6 unelected officials - has taken away rights of millions of its citizens. All women. It fits well with a nation founded on such "principle", with over two hundred years of slavery. All black. Oppression is the American thing.
1. Lefty people like yourself can’t even define what a woman is.
2. You didn’t even read the ruling or understand roe in the first place. Please demonstrate where in the constitution is the right to an abortion and where the decision says this right is gone.
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Half true wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
It's hardly surprising that another American political institution - in this case only requiring 6 unelected officials - has taken away rights of millions of its citizens. All women. It fits well with a nation founded on such "principle", with over two hundred years of slavery. All black. Oppression is the American thing.
You are truly showing your ignorance. Oppression was taking place looooong before the establishment of the United States, and it’s still going on to this day. Give me a break with the fake moral outrage.
Roe only applied to the first trimester. Did you know that? It’s going to the states where they can deal with it. There’s a thing called federalism. Abortion isn’t expressly written into the constitution, but oddly enough there is something in there about abolishing slavery.
I'm sure the "originalists" won't be deterred by that.
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Yawn^23 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
It's hardly surprising that another American political institution - in this case only requiring 6 unelected officials - has taken away rights of millions of its citizens. All women. It fits well with a nation founded on such "principle", with over two hundred years of slavery. All black. Oppression is the American thing.
1. Lefty people like yourself can’t even define what a woman is.
2. You didn’t even read the ruling or understand roe in the first place. Please demonstrate where in the constitution is the right to an abortion and where the decision says this right is gone.
So there can be no rights enjoyed by anyone that weren't conferred by a bunch of wealthy white makes, some of whom owned slaves, 250 years ago? Welcome to the US in the late 18th century - sorry, 2022.
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*males
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Armstronglivs wrote:
Yawn^23 wrote:
1. Lefty people like yourself can’t even define what a woman is.
2. You didn’t even read the ruling or understand roe in the first place. Please demonstrate where in the constitution is the right to an abortion and where the decision says this right is gone.
So there can be no rights enjoyed by anyone that weren't conferred by a bunch of wealthy white makes, some of whom owned slaves, 250 years ago? Welcome to the US in the late 18th century - sorry, 2022.
There are specific ways laws and constitutional amendments can be formulated. Maybe check out schoolhouse rock for more info. It’s a kids program.
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Many women that are going to have abortions are probably too poor and unfit to be mothers. Take away abortion rights and the kids are going to end up unloved, in group homes, turn to drugs and crime, have nothing good to contribute to society and keep the cycle going.
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I was actually thinking of saying make it legal up to 25 but then I saw your user name. What a convenient way for society to make society better by killing humans.
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Vineyard Vines wrote:
You can thank all the people who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton. And they're morons. We suffer through a presidency for only 4-8 years, but the SC justices hang on for 30-40 years. Young people will be suffering through this conservative court for most of their adult lives. Hope voting for Jill Stein was worth it.
Another HRC whack-job. Hillary, the most unqualified and piece of garbage to ever run, total Crime Family. You sir are a certified pea brain
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Armstronglivs wrote:
It's hardly surprising that another American political institution - in this case only requiring 6 unelected officials - has taken away rights of millions of its citizens. All women. It fits well with a nation founded on such "principle", with over two hundred years of slavery. All black. Oppression is the American thing.
Doesn't your racist sh!thole of a country have a Supreme Court with 6 non-elected judges as well? I think it does. I had to look it up, because who in the hell would know off the top of their head how an absolutely useless and irrelevant country like New Zealand operates its crooked legal system? No one. Probably not even you.
But its does look like you colonialists have a Supreme Court - composed of all whites until 2021 when they got one Maori, by the way - that get appointed by someone (not elected). I'll bet there is all kinds of demented stuff we could find out about New Zealand's oppressive and bogus legal system, if we were bored enough to look. It sure seems to be racist.
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/84346494/new-zealands-racist-justice-system--our-law-is-not-colourblind51 -
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Harambe wrote:
Yet, you still think a raped women should carry her baby to term. Telling.
You don't know what I think. If abortion proponents were advocating for only early-term abortions in extreme circumstances (i.e. rape or indirect abortion as medical treatment), I'd be more sympathetic to the pro-choice/anti-life position but they're not and the numbers are very clear that's not why people want abortion to be legal. In fact I would even be supportive instances of rape, but would be even more supportive of adoption in that case. However, abortion advocates use those extreme examples as red-herrings for what they really want, which is abortion as birth control so people can f*ck with no responsibility. I can tell just by my social media and who gets angriest whenever these abortion issues crop up, and it's always the village bikes who go out partying every weekend that go on the angry social media tirades.
I like f*cking as much as anyone else, I'm human, but is ending a life really worth my promiscuity to me? Nah, not really, and that's pretty sad that there are people out there that really need sex with strangers so badly that they're willing to rationalize killing innocent children over it. You really have to ask yourself what your values are if that's the case.
A huge post to admit that you want to force raped women to carry to term. Gross.
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Let it rupp is incel wrote:
Let it Rupp wrote:
You don't know what I think. If abortion proponents were advocating for only early-term abortions in extreme circumstances (i.e. rape or indirect abortion as medical treatment), I'd be more sympathetic to the pro-choice/anti-life position but they're not and the numbers are very clear that's not why people want abortion to be legal. In fact I would even be supportive instances of rape, but would be even more supportive of adoption in that case. However, abortion advocates use those extreme examples as red-herrings for what they really want, which is abortion as birth control so people can f*ck with no responsibility. I can tell just by my social media and who gets angriest whenever these abortion issues crop up, and it's always the village bikes who go out partying every weekend that go on the angry social media tirades.
I like f*cking as much as anyone else, I'm human, but is ending a life really worth my promiscuity to me? Nah, not really, and that's pretty sad that there are people out there that really need sex with strangers so badly that they're willing to rationalize killing innocent children over it. You really have to ask yourself what your values are if that's the case.
Classic “no women wants to f#*k me so I act like I’m making a moral choice”.
all of your other posts indicate you don’t give a crap about children . maybe you believe that but we know
The detachment with which LIR talks about 'women' makes as much clear.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
It's hardly surprising that another American political institution - in this case only requiring 6 unelected officials - has taken away rights of millions of its citizens. All women. It fits well with a nation founded on such "principle", with over two hundred years of slavery. All black. Oppression is the American thing.
You are truly showing your ignorance. Oppression was taking place looooong before the establishment of the United States, and it’s still going on to this day. Give me a break with the fake moral outrage.
Roe only applied to the first trimester. Did you know that? It’s going to the states where they can deal with it. There’s a thing called federalism. Abortion isn’t expressly written into the constitution, but oddly enough there is something in there about abolishing slavery.
He didn't say oppression was invented by US, only that its been a part of its history. But keep misrepresenting what people say.
Oh..."only the first trimester"? What does that even mean? The first trimester is where what.... 85-90 % of abortions take place? Hardly worth a mention, then.
and abortion isnt mentioned in the Constitution...maybe related to lack of female representatives having any say for much of American history.
Review: no women in Congress before WWI, never 10 at once before WWII and present Congress is first where women are over 25% of it despite being over 50% of population.
This decision is going to lead to a lot of suffering. I read Alito's decision and the other concurring opinions from Kavanaugh, Roberts, and Thomas as well as dissenting opinion.
Alito, Kavanaugh, and Roberts acknowledged the contentiousness of issue and difficulty of it, whatever side you're on. Thomas did no such thing, ratcheted up rhetoric. Scumbag.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
Yawn^23 wrote:
1. Lefty people like yourself can’t even define what a woman is.
2. You didn’t even read the ruling or understand roe in the first place. Please demonstrate where in the constitution is the right to an abortion and where the decision says this right is gone.
So there can be no rights enjoyed by anyone that weren't conferred by a bunch of wealthy white makes, some of whom owned slaves, 250 years ago? Welcome to the US in the late 18th century - sorry, 2022.
I truly don’t understand the mental gymnastics you performed to arrive at your conclusion. I doubt a whole team of psychiatrists could follow either.
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The biggest hypocrisy is that in striking down fifty years of precedent, they then celebrate that now laws can be made by the people.
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Harambe wrote:
Let it Rupp wrote:
You don't know what I think. If abortion proponents were advocating for only early-term abortions in extreme circumstances (i.e. rape or indirect abortion as medical treatment), I'd be more sympathetic to the pro-choice/anti-life position but they're not and the numbers are very clear that's not why people want abortion to be legal. In fact I would even be supportive instances of rape, but would be even more supportive of adoption in that case. However, abortion advocates use those extreme examples as red-herrings for what they really want, which is abortion as birth control so people can f*ck with no responsibility. I can tell just by my social media and who gets angriest whenever these abortion issues crop up, and it's always the village bikes who go out partying every weekend that go on the angry social media tirades.
I like f*cking as much as anyone else, I'm human, but is ending a life really worth my promiscuity to me? Nah, not really, and that's pretty sad that there are people out there that really need sex with strangers so badly that they're willing to rationalize killing innocent children over it. You really have to ask yourself what your values are if that's the case.
A huge post to admit that you want to force raped women to carry to term. Gross.
I’ll say it in fewer words. Abortion should be completely illegal.
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