womp womp she will be celebrated for quitting, she knew not to push for pushing's sake. takes guts to do what athing mu did
womp womp she will be celebrated for quitting, she knew not to push for pushing's sake. takes guts to do what athing mu did
His prediction is a lot better than all the Yahoos saying 425. At least did not finish its did not finish... she can't break 434!
Infinity88 wrote:
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Armstrongleave wrote:
Sorry, your prediction bears absolutely no resemblance to what happened in the race.
She did not trip and never even really looked like she was struggling with the tight turns or traffic so that was all a non-issue. And, according to the announcers, she stepped off somewhere near 1409m; hardly the second lap.
Literally no one in this discussion thread predicted a DNF with one lap to go.
But, she did DNF regardless of where in the race.
why not 8 wrote:
Dude give it up... she wanted her appearance fee, contractual fufillments, and didn't want to risk losing at the 800
She could run a a 4:35 Mi tops. No chance of running 4:25. Otherwise she would have just did it. She went all out for 1200 M and then stepped off the track
Mofos blinded by hero , can't see this obvious point... gullible fools would been first in line to fight communism in Southeast Asia
ContextisKing wrote:
His prediction is a lot better than all the Yahoos saying 425. At least did not finish its did not finish... she can't break 434!
Nah, she clearly could've run 4:26-27 if she wanted to. She hit the 1409m in 3:50, but clearly anything short of winning was meaningless to her.
And as someone has already mentioned, she shouldn't have tried to hang with the lead pack. With better pacing, she could've broken 4:25.
A. Mu's coach had to know she was not and is not a sub-4:30 miler. A. Mu should never suffer that embarrassment again. No such thing as a world class 400m/world class 800m/world class 1500m runner. DO NOT MENTION C. Semenya.
why not 8 wrote:
why not 8 wrote:
Dude give it up... she wanted her appearance fee, contractual fufillments, and didn't want to risk losing at the 800
She could run a a 4:35 Mi tops. No chance of running 4:25. Otherwise she would have just did it. She went all out for 1200 M and then stepped off the track
Mofos blinded by hero , can't see this obvious point... gullible fools would been first in line to fight communism in Southeast Asia
No way man, you can't see the obvious point that she is so much better than everyone at 800m she needs to dnf at the mile. Otherwise it's not a challenge. She could easily smash every record but chose the dnf to give others a chance
ContextisKing wrote:
His prediction is a lot better than all the Yahoos saying 425. At least did not finish its did not finish... she can't break 434!
So you're saying she couldn't have run another 200m in 43 if her life were dependent on it? Right. And your inability to analyze races is showing.
Sledge_Hammer wrote:
ContextisKing wrote:
His prediction is a lot better than all the Yahoos saying 425. At least did not finish its did not finish... she can't break 434!
Nah, she clearly could've run 4:26-27 if she wanted to. She hit the 1409m in 3:50, but clearly anything short of winning was meaningless to her.
And as someone has already mentioned, she shouldn't have tried to hang with the lead pack. With better pacing, she could've broken 4:25.
didn't you have a bet that you would come back here and eat crow if she couldn't break 427
I tried to tell you she sucks at 1500m and you suck at predicting. And you suck at understanding reality also. You just going to continue to be a blind fool trumping your nonsense
Sledge_Hammer wrote:
ContextisKing wrote:
His prediction is a lot better than all the Yahoos saying 425. At least did not finish its did not finish... she can't break 434!
So you're saying she couldn't have run another 200m in 43 if her life were dependent on it? Right. And your inability to analyze races is showing.
You're an idiot dude. She couldn't finish the race. Get the hell out of here. You talked nonsense and got show to be an idiot.
When you are woozi after running a 4:38 mile you are not coming back and running 428. She's a 4:38 miler
ContextisKing wrote:
Sledge_Hammer wrote:
Nah, she clearly could've run 4:26-27 if she wanted to. She hit the 1409m in 3:50, but clearly anything short of winning was meaningless to her.
And as someone has already mentioned, she shouldn't have tried to hang with the lead pack. With better pacing, she could've broken 4:25.
didn't you have a bet that you would come back here and eat crow if she couldn't break 427
I tried to tell you she sucks at 1500m and you suck at predicting. And you suck at understanding reality also. You just going to continue to be a blind fool trumping your nonsense
That was not me, but I agree she clearly has the ability to break 4:27 TODAY and could have run 4:25 with better pacing. She should've gone out in 33-34, not 32 and worked down from there. This race actually confirmed that her endurance is pretty good for a 400/800 runner, despite lack of experience of the longer distance.
ContextisKing wrote:
Sledge_Hammer wrote:
Nah, she clearly could've run 4:26-27 if she wanted to. She hit the 1409m in 3:50, but clearly anything short of winning was meaningless to her.
And as someone has already mentioned, she shouldn't have tried to hang with the lead pack. With better pacing, she could've broken 4:25.
didn't you have a bet that you would come back here and eat crow if she couldn't break 427
I tried to tell you she sucks at 1500m and you suck at predicting. And you suck at understanding reality also. You just going to continue to be a blind fool trumping your nonsense
I thought she ran great. She further solidified that with ANY amount of training for the distance she can compete.
ContextisKing wrote:
Sledge_Hammer wrote:
So you're saying she couldn't have run another 200m in 43 if her life were dependent on it? Right. And your inability to analyze races is showing.
You're an idiot dude. She couldn't finish the race. Get the hell out of here. You talked nonsense and got show to be an idiot.
It's ironic your handle is "Contextisking", yet you failed to pay attention to the context of the race.
The reality is she made a mistake going after 4:17-4:25 milers. At that level there is no mercy given. Next time when she runs the mile she should run after a PR and not somn insane like 4:20-4:25 until she has more experience. She pushed herself as far as she could. She clearly wanted somn big but at the moment 4:20-4:25 isn’t somn she’ll get just yet. I too made this mistake at the 800m. Ended up almost giving up. Got a 2:30 but my splits were absolutely terrible. I eventually learned to go after myself and beat me by strategizing or going hard but not so hard my body gives out.
It's amazing that you have no clue that you're an absolute idiot. She didn't finish the race. Stop defending her and saying she could have ran a great time. She ran all out and couldn't finish. You're a fool if you think this is a good result that shows that she could beat anyone in this race who finished. She is a 438 miler. No more
John Wesley Harding wrote:
Armstrongleave wrote:
Well, I’ll be the first to say that was tantalizing but unsatisfying…
Hitting 1209m in 5th place at 3:16.84 and only 1.2 seconds off a legit stud in Purrier-St. Pierre is certainly good. DNFing at some point around 1409m is…not.
I think it’s clear she had no chance (today) of running under 4:22. I would think she absolutely could have willed herself to a 73 for the final 400 if her life depended on it to get under 4:30. But I would guess she decided that it wasn’t worth the suffering. Maybe a different pacing strategy could have produced a solid mid-4:20s time but hitting 809m in 2:10 was a play for a legit chance to be in the mix.
Two points that seem obvious, though:
(1) In the hands of a great mile coach and given sufficient time to train for and adapt her body to the 1500, she clearly could hang with some very good milers in a year or two.
(2) She was not ducking the 800. She clearly could beat 2:01. And her racing strategy in the mile clearly indicated she was going for a high finish and not merely there to get a paycheck.
Bonus point:
(3) This was a VERY good day for Coach Dathan Ritzenhein and OAC!
Is this what you call “eating crow”? Talk about dissatisfying.
Well, my friend, I came back, didn’t I? Which is way more than most here would own up to.
But, yeah, there literally is no finish time to evaluate. We all made predictions assuming she would finish (or, I guess, trip in the second lap) and she didn’t.
She decided to actually race and go for a top finish rather than more conservatively hit optimal pacing for a PR. She was in 5th place with 400 to go in a solid time. At some point about 200m later, she stepped off. She’s hardly the first person to blow up running at a pace that exceeded her present ability.
If she goes out in 67, 2:14, and 3:20, instead of 66, 2:10, and 3:16, who knows? But she ran for the front and that had consequences. So kudos to her for stepping up to a challenge and going for it but it clearly didn’t work.
She patently wasn’t running literally all-out for 1200 with the intent to step off or she would not have run another lap beyond that (duh!). And with what she did show today and her having at least 4 seconds over any other woman in today’s 800 for her 400 speed, it is absurd to claim she was scared to race an 800 that was predictably slow.
She put her body in uncharted territory and didn’t make it. It was entertaining. And, yeah, I’ll stick with tantalizing but unsatisfying.
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