El Guerrouj 2k WR - Incredible 3:49 Mile pace

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

You seem unusually committed to distractions to avoid self directed learning.

There is plenty of research (or self directed learning) showing that EPO INCREASES breathing rates in certain conditions. You should be all over that.

You presume too much. I did look some time ago, and found a few seeming contradictions.

But I wanted to give Armstronglivs a chance to defend his comments.

It is not my goal to spoon feed him or you.

I did not ask to be. You did.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

It only counts if they are busted while setting a record. Try to keep up with the goalposts.

Did we change the subject?

Is this another diversion?

What is your definition of a subject and a diversion?

Shopping hour wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

You presume too much. I did look some time ago, and found a few seeming contradictions.

But I wanted to give Armstronglivs a chance to defend his comments.

It is not my goal to spoon feed him or you.

I did not ask to be. You did.

Well technically I asked him for the authoritative sources he relies on, so I could feed myself, and repeatedly rejected his attempts to feed me.

Shopping hour wrote:

I got this one. No WR has ever been documented by ventilation rate or volume or blood values while in progress.

Might as well preemptively move the posts for you.

It boggles my mind then as I was told he read multiple sources, and that I could find this stuff in the library.

No wonder he can't score a goal.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

I got this one. No WR has ever been documented by ventilation rate or volume or blood values while in progress.

Might as well preemptively move the posts for you.

It boggles my mind then as I was told he read multiple sources, and that I could find this stuff in the library.

No wonder he can't score a goal.

He did not say those things had been documented. He just showed you the baby food section so you could begin learning how to use a spoon.

Shopping hour wrote:

He did not say those things had been documented. He just showed you the baby food section so you could begin learning how to use a spoon.

That seems like the best he could offer.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

He did not say those things had been documented. He just showed you the baby food section so you could begin learning how to use a spoon.

That seems like the best he could offer.

Eventually a baby must conquer the spoon alone.

Shopping hour wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

That seems like the best he could offer.

Eventually a baby must conquer the spoon alone.

I guess he's almost there.

No guessing allowed.

Shopping hour wrote:

No guessing allowed.

What was asked was the menu for gastronomy and you are telling me he is in the baby food section.

rekrunner wrote:

Shopping hour wrote:

No guessing allowed.

What was asked was the menu for gastronomy and you are telling me he is in the baby food section.

Because a baby asked to be fed. Try to keep up.

Shopping hour wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

What was asked was the menu for gastronomy and you are telling me he is in the baby food section.

Because a baby asked to be fed. Try to keep up.

Well when he's done feeding the baby, I'll be sitting at a table in the restaurant reading a book.

Since you jumped in at the tail of the topic, here is what started the request for backing up his ideas, after he accused me of always twisting words:

"Perhaps the best way to untwist what is being said, is for you to provide real quotes rather than paraphrasing in your own words."

I was then told that there were others like "Dick Pound, or David Howman, or Anne Shirley or official sources or anti-doping experts or athletes" who shared his ideas, but still didn't get any real quotes, so have no idea where all these people stand on anything in this thread.

I was then told he read multiple sources, but still nothing specific came of that result.

He specifically told you to start reading. Beginning with the library.

It sounds like you might be thinking of doing that. It's going to cut into your trolling time though.

Shopping hour wrote:

He specifically told you to start reading. Beginning with the library.

It sounds like you might be thinking of doing that. It's going to cut into your trolling time though.

I found that an odd reaction to a request for him to support his own paraphrased understanding with real authoritative quotes, references, links data, and/or controlled observations.

He's under some mistaken impression that the failure here is my understanding of biology.

Sending me to the library to read attempts to solve a problem that really didn't exist.

I think there is a problem in your understanding of biology.

citation: this thread

Shopping hour wrote:

I think there is a problem in your understanding of biology.

citation: this thread

Not sure how you are qualified to make such an assessment, or if your stated source has sufficient data to make such an assessment.

In any case, what you think, and what my understanding of biology is, doesn't address or cure Armstronglivs complete failure to support his own paraphrased understanding with real authoritative quotes, references, links data, and/or controlled observations.

You're not sure about much at all.

Shopping hour wrote:

You're not sure about much at all.

End of thread.

Shopping hour wrote:

You're not sure about much at all.

It's the same thing -- an authoritative or specific citation would add certainty, and you also failed.

In anonymous forums, there is no barrier to typing whatever you want and "publishing" it.

Adding external support gives it credibility.

You said "I think" -- I have reasons to doubt that.

You said "there is a problem in (my) understanding of biology", citing "this thread" -- that's rather vague as a citation as it fails to specify which parts of this thread have led you to doubt my knowledge of biology, surely because I did not comment on biology one way or another.