Ole Miss is coming off a pretty good season, and the head coach is from the area. Why would he go anywhere?
True Colors wrote:
My prediction, Hall will be the Head Coach at Ole Miss next year and hires Johnson as his assistant.
Ole Miss is coming off a pretty good season, and the head coach is from the area. Why would he go anywhere?
True Colors wrote:
My prediction, Hall will be the Head Coach at Ole Miss next year and hires Johnson as his assistant.
Any word about any of the openings in upstate NY?
Buffalo (part time)
Hamilton
Utica
?
St Edwards university in Texas is starting men's and women's cross country in 2015. Open now. Anyone interested should send in cover,resume, references to AD. Just passing this on for a friend.
What's the latest on Harvard and Yale throws jobs?
YUng Carl wrote:
What's the latest on Harvard and Yale throws jobs?
Things are quiet...too quiet, look for a surprise move to be announced next week.
Who is the runner up for the New Orleans job?
Is Mo Huber no longer at Arizona? What happened there?
1222fffff wrote:
Who is the runner up for the New Orleans job?
What???
Did New Orleans make an offer to someone?
So what openings are left out there?
St. Edwards XC
Notre Dame assistant sprints/jumps
Maryland assistant jumps/multis
Berry College Head Track
OSU Beavers - Throwing Coach?
Any positions left unaccounted for that are worthy of discussion?
Status of Maryland Jumps/Multi coach?
I am hearing OSU is having to wait for NCAA to rule on if they can continue to have one more assistant than the rule for a women's only program can have. Already have 3 paid coaches without throws coach. Got extra coach for having "men's program" of 1-4 football players. Total BS to get an extra coach if you ask me.
Maryland has completed on campus interviews for finalists.
Alright kids, the hiring season is obviously over. ESPECIALLY if you don't personally know someone with an opening between now and next June. We can just about stick a fork in this wonderful thread until at least December - when speculations begin. This year's thread has been especially interesting to me...not because of the amount of inside information, but because of the complete LACK of inside info/gossip/rumors. Staffs have obviously wised up and made it very clear not to run their mouths...except for the occasional male 20-something relative newbie who doesn't yet "get" the value of loyalty or realize how easy it is to trace "confidential info" to its source. From here on out, you're going to have to go about it the old-fashioned way - word-of-mouth at 1am at the back of a bar at convention or one of the national championships.
In my brief time as a DI Power Five coach, here's my best advice on how to get one of those coveted full-time Power Five jobs - if that's what you consider "success"/that's what you want:
Do not waste your time coaching high school. There are some great coaches at that level/you can be a great high school coach...but you will not develop the skill set valued for DI P5 jobs...they are two completely different jobs. One not inherently more worthwhile or "better" than the other...just different. That and you will not make connections.
Do not waste your time coaching NAIA/DIII/DII. Once again, there are some excellent coaches at this level who do THAT job very well. No better or worse at this profession than DI P5. But it doesn't matter how many 4:30/5:15 kids you develop into 3:50/4:30 1500 kids with multiple AA's/championships across track & XC. You still are not developing - or at least demonstrating - the skill set desired by the "haves." And you are not making connections.
Do not waste your time coaching privately/a club. This is a COMPLETELY different job than a college one...and you will not make connections.
Do not waste your time coaching mid-major DI unless it's a head/associate head job as a quick stepping stone after having held a "lower" position at a P5...having developed your resume & CONNECTIONS within that elite circle. It DOES NOT MATTER how many 4:15/5:00 kids you develop into 3:45/4:25 kids with multiple all-conference and conference championship honors. You still aren't demonstrating the skills/resume you need to make the next jump - even though, by most metrics, you are probably a FANTASTIC COLLEGE COACH. And you still aren't making as many connections as you could.
Volunteer/GA at a P5 from the beginning and never leave the P5 as you climb the assistant ladder unless it's for a very well-supported, prestigious titled mid-major job. Connections are everything. Well, that and obviously demonstrating that you have the skill set necessary to recruit elite kids and keep them from screwing themselves up in college.
Once you are "in," it's hard to be excommunicated unless you really fvck up. If you are just not good at your job, you will at worst be recommended for another P5 lateral position as a way for your current staff/head coach to get rid of you quietly. Don't believe the last two paragraphs? Just ask the North Central Boys (now I'm going to get flamed here).
Oh, and don't fvck your athletes/assistants. Or at least let deadspin get a hold of it...plenty of these coaches still with decent jobs in the recent past even if they did have to take a brief step backward...
It really is a great profession if you know what you're getting into...but each level is a different job...and a Power Five job isn't necessarily the pinnacle if you actually went to be able to focus primarily on athlete development - or value quality of personal life.
Happy hunting next Spring. - Wild Duck Wisperer
Wild Duck Wisperer: Excellent analysis of what needs to be done. Unfortunately over the years I have tried to state the same thing to help younger coaches enter the profession. Sadly, most do not take good advice like yours and think they are going to jump from high school to P5. Thanks for the time in writing an good post.
Although it is true that going the VA/GA route is the fastest way into the P5 conferences, it is not impossible to make your way through the ranks of DIII, mid major D1 or any of the other levels if you do spend time developing kids (where most development actually happens) and spend time making the right connections at meets, conventions, educational courses and so on.
It may be a longer process but a lot of coaches from the MAC who do a good job move up to P5 conference schools and there are a decent amount of coaches from DIII that have made their way up as well.