Calm the F**K Down! - What is wrong with everyone?

68 - deaths in the US attributed to the virus

331,002,651 - current population of the US

Thus only1 out of approximately 5 million people has supposedly died from the virus.

Your mom's box.

Wow. That's really impressive. That might just be the single stupidest comment I've seen all day --and that is *really* something. Great work.

How does it work, exactly? When you join the Republican Party, do they make you bash your head against the wall until your brain's turned to oatmeal, or does that happen beforehand?

Actually (ya know, in *real* life; not wherever the f*** it is that *you* live), that 'Recovered' number for the US stands at 73 right now. It's gone up steadily, and will continue to. In China, it's around 70,000. Here, it's still very small, because there hasn't been enough time elapsed for many people to get very sick --or for them to be declared 'recovered.'

It'll rise faster and faster now, as will both the number of total cases, and the deaths.

(That's how exponential growth works, but I'm guessing you didn't make it past, what, 7th-grade math?)

Here's a piece of constructive advice for you: the next time you feel like piping up with yet another unbelievably-stupid, demonstrably-ridiculous Republican 'talking point' you picked up from Alex Jones, or some other drug-addicted, wife-beating professional liar,... do yourself a great favor and go have another beer instead.

That way at least you won't have to keep getting publicly humiliated like this.

(P.S. I realize you're unlikely to comprehend much of anything I just said, but it's possible there are other, slightly-less-dimwitted guys looking in who just might be capable of enough thinking to make their opinions a little less idiotic.)

Facts Matter wrote:

A whopping 62 deaths so far in the USA. The flu is 354 times that number at 22,000.

I'd love to know when the coronavirus boogeyman is going to blow up and start killing people left and right. Of that 62, 40 are in Washington and of those 40, the majority of them were from one nursing home.

I'm still looking for the evidence that the coronavirus is more deadly than the flu.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

You know better than the WHO then. Your handle is incorrect. It should be Facts Don't Matter.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Facts Matter wrote:

A whopping 62 deaths so far in the USA. The flu is 354 times that number at 22,000.

I'd love to know when the coronavirus boogeyman is going to blow up and start killing people left and right. Of that 62, 40 are in Washington and of those 40, the majority of them were from one nursing home.

I'm still looking for the evidence that the coronavirus is more deadly than the flu.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

You know better than the WHO then. Your handle is incorrect. It should be Facts Don't Matter.

Any organization whose title begins with "World" is bullshit. You're welcome for the education.

Well what I'm seeing going by the given numbers is around 100 per day, let's say it's even double that at 200 since it's stated inception. We know the flu kills between 800-1800 each day- let's use the middle figure of 1200. Now that's been the case for years and yet no emergency procedures put in place.

Given these figures and the current responses shouldn't pretty much every day be a national emergency and in particular shouldn't all mass gatherings in enclosed buildings be deemed illegal until we "conquer the flu" as these are breeding grounds for viruses- meaning at least no more school for all those kids with only outdoor activities allowed outside home schooling. That's if we want to be consistent.

Oh and another thing why is it that many of these people who are so concerned for everyone's health, you know the one's that want any dissenters rounded up, are the very same ones who are hoarding. If they are so concerned for the health of others shouldn't they be sharing?

The levels of hypocrisy we are seeing are also reaching fever pitch.

Could you give us your prediction on what the number of deaths due to COVID-19 will be in the US by the end of April.

In that prediction could you include age categories. If you think that's too garish I understand.

I'm also curious- where you around during the swine flu, bird flu, Ebola scare, Y2K or any of these other situations.

I'm also curious do you put energies into fighting global hunger or global air pollution or global warming or nuclear disarmament or anything of this sort?

Armstronglivs wrote:

Allen53 wrote:

How many deaths per day at present are directly related to COVID-19.

And what else would deaths attributed to COVID-19 be caused by? You don't need to worry about it. In your case, brain death has already occurred.

There are several other things that could be root cause of these deaths- COPD would be one example.

The first question which should be asked is what are the living conditions of those who perished. The next should be what was the condition of their internal biological system before contracting a disease. You are examining this in the most superficial way.

However I was only asking for the simple statistic.

Allen53 wrote:

Could you give us your prediction on what the number of deaths due to COVID-19 will be in the US by the end of April.

In that prediction could you include age categories. If you think that's too garish I understand.

I'm also curious- where you around during the swine flu, bird flu, Ebola scare, Y2K or any of these other situations.

I'm also curious do you put energies into fighting global hunger or global air pollution or global warming or nuclear disarmament or anything of this sort?

No, I won't give you a prediction on that. Unlike you and your right-wing idiot denialist troll pals, I don't pretend to have a way to make a prediction that would be any more than a wild-assed guess. And I'm sure as hell not so flatly stupid --like your buddy Wigins, for instance-- as to make a definitive, precise *guarantee* about something I couldn't possibly know --based on nothing more than shallow, poorly-grounded biases.

Here's what I know:

1. *His* pompous predictions --and those of many similarly-inclined idiots here-- were absurd, and would be proven so very shortly.

Any moron pretending to 'divine' that the actual US growth-rate was 'well below 5%' deserved to be exposed and mocked.

2. The actual rate's been 30% for two solid weeks now, and that that will get us to very large numbers very quickly if it holds for a while.

I have no idea how long that rate may hold, or how quickly it may drop if it does in fact start to drop anytime soon. Neither do you (and it's Goddamn sure that Wigins and the rest of these imbeciles don't either).

3. The 'guarantees' you idiots keep propounding that it will instantly drop off a cliff any second now are absolute horse-sh*t --as they're based on nothing but garbage and hot air.

They come from either idiotic mis-reading of statistics and charts --a la Wigins-- or pompous inferences that since other viruses have behaved that way it's somehow automatic this one will too.

(If you knew a little *more* history than the handful of examples you stupidly choose to 'cherry-pick,' you'd see the stupidity of this inference.)

And in many (most?) cases, they appear to stem mostly from the dumbest and basest political and social bigotry.

4. All the evidence so far says this virus kills a much bigger proportion of those who catch it than the flu. (Though you morons continue to tell us every five minutes --with no evidence whatsoever-- that it doesn't.)

All the evidence so far is that it appears to kill something like a couple of percent.

5. The Nazi-criminal Orange Baboon in the White House has done everything he possibly could to hide and cover up the problem (for his personal gain), and that has made it very tough to make sense of the statistics we've seen here so far. But those stats fall pretty well in line with those from the rest of the world --including places that actually *have* been responsible, and have tested broad slices of the population. This suggests those death-rates may not be all that far off the reality --as guys like you keep pompously insisting they are.

6. Even if it turns out they're substantially lower, it could still kill enough people to be a major catastrophe if the spread continues.

7. There's no evidence at all so far of any real slow-down in the rest of the world outside of the bigger East-Asian countries (despite the constant efforts of dip-sh*ts like BW to tell us that's happening).

8. Here at home, the Federal government --held hostage by the Nazi-criminal Orange Baboon and his crime-partners (which, at this point, means basically every Republican in America)-- has responded in such a criminally incompetent way we appear to be worse-prepared than any 'first-world' country on the planet. (Possible exceptions for England, and maybe Brazil, if you want to include them --who have their own Nazi-criminal leaders to labor under.)

9. It's therefore really dumb to expect that our course will follow that of China or Japan, and more reasonable to expect that it will probably be as bad or worse than anywhere else we've seen thus far (Italy probably providing the best guide, thus far).

10. If we'd taken the 'counsel' of morons like you and Bad Wigins, and done nothing but insult those who took it seriously and tried to be responsible, it's pretty clear it might easily be millions dead.

(Half the population gets it; 1% die. 30-40 million dead. Easy to see.)

11. It seems that mitigation efforts from those smart enough to actually care, and actually DO something, will probably reduce that a lot. How much is as yet impossible to say.

In the places that acted responsibly, it seems it might be gigantically so.

12. In those (like this one) that chose to take their cues from morons like you guys (and your Dear Leader), it will clearly be much less so.

13. It's obvious that here, at least, there are *many* more cases already than the 'official' numbers state.

14. No, that *doesn't* necessarily mean that the death-rate is tiny. It might very well just mean that those people haven't had a chance yet to get sick, and in some cases, die.

It might very well be that the denominator expands massively for a long time, as we uncover all those ignored infections,... and the numerator climbs right along with it.

15. You guys prattle on endlessly about how (in your imaginations) the people who died of CV 'didn't* really die of CV, but actually of something else (and, sure, that might be true in a few cases), but you moronically fail to recognize the likelihood that *other* folks who died in the last few months probably died of CV, and were wrongly attributed to something else, because we weren't paying any *attention* to CV.

My guess is there are probably a lot more 'false negative' deaths than the hypothetical 'false positive' deaths you clowns are obsessed with.

How many will die? A HELL of a lot more than you clowns have suggested.

Of *that* I'm very sure.

Your 'age-categories' query is so dumb, wrong-headed, and irrelevant, it's not worth any attention.

Yes, I was around and aware for ALL of those previous 'scares' you mention, and the obvious implication of your question is deeply stupid, and completely wrong. (If you're too dim to see why, I'm afraid I can't spend another freaking hour explaining it to you.)

Again, your last question is so dumb, and so irrelevant, it doesn't deserve a response.

(It's also absolutely none of your f***ing business.)

P*ss off now. I've spent way too much time today attempting to expose and/or enlighten idiots.

this has to be the most moranic conspiracy theory of all time.

Allen53 wrote:

There are several other things that could be root cause of these deaths- COPD would be one example.

Another is that they were spraying people in China with organophosphate pesticides, which caused them to go into convulsions and die ---- certainly not due to a virus.

sp2 wrote:

P*ss off now. I've spent way too much time today attempting to expose and/or enlighten idiots.

All you jaggoffs squawking still can't do math.

22,000 is greater than 69.

Until that 69 surpasses the 22,000, which by the way increases every day at a rate of about 146, the statement that the coronavirus is deadlier than the flu is absolute bullsh!t. If you cannot understand that as a FACT, you need go lick an 80 year old, catch the virus and put yourself out of your own misery.

You sound upset. Are we to believe that your anger is really generated by a concern for the health of others? No you seem to be totally invested in this hoax (I know, you don't believe it's a hoax) and if others question it you feel threatened.

As for me, I'm not angry that so many have been deceived. I'm just trying to help them see that they're being manipulated.

Roni 19 wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

You know better than the WHO then. Your handle is incorrect. It should be Facts Don't Matter.

Any organization whose title begins with "World" is bullshit. You're welcome for the education.

Well you would know about bullsh*t.

Wow you really are black and white.

Why don't you compare flu/Corona statistics in places where the outbreak is more advanced, like Italy in Spain?

You can spin the facts to your favour but explain the only actual evidence we have of when the virus in more infiltrated in society which can at least be documented to a decent degree instead of early stats and speculation - Italy.

does the normal flu send a country into shutdown?

does the normal flu overwhelm hospitals and push them 200% over capacity

is it just a coincidence that all old people in these countries has started becoming ill and dying at the same time that until now have never overflooded the hospitals?

Does normal flu do this?

What exactly is the motive of the government or institutions to risk global recession for something that is not serious or has no personal economical or political gain for so called 'liars'?

It's clearly a case of damage limitation and how do we help a significant amount of people dying before their time. The panic buying is ridiculous but this is the society that we have created together, you can't defend it. But the most ridiculous thing is "only 69 people have died from CV", which is essentially what you are saying and the base of your argument, which you will shift with 'factual' excuses until you cut off your nose to spite your own face.

There were plenty of short-sighted people in italy and spain, including advisors who are actually paid for their 'opinions'. They got it dangerously wrong so far. How bad will it get? nobody knows but it's not going to fun...

only anarchists would stand to gain by sending the world into melt-down and panic. How on earth would they achieve this and convince the world?

Also to add, younger people and people with no underlying health conditions and doctors have died from this.

I wish you were right. I will we could just pay you one fee to advise the world instead of wasting time and resources on experts and medical professionals at the forefront.

Sadly you are either a troll or crazy on an ego level that is not normal. you have delusions of grandeur about being an intellectual, a numbers guy, someone important who knows what is best. you clearly don't. The world has to change but you don't... it's actually a mental condition.

Nothing to worry about!

We’ve still got two-thirds of our stock market & 2 outta 3 ain’t bad.

One thing is for sure, no matter what tomorrow brings in terms of new cases, the "recovered" number will stay at 56, as it has for several days. We can't have people getting better - that might undermine the "end of the world, look what Trump has done" scenario that has been so carefully invented. The numbers must only go up - as we hunt for any entertainment/recreation activities still taking place.

Moron: This is what you said. That there's a giant conspiracy to make Trump look bad by 'inventing' the CV crisis, and that we know that because someone is falsely forcing everyone in the world to keep the 'Recovered' number in the US at 56.

This was clearly a lie on your part, and is clearly unbelievably stupid.

It's hard for me to believe that you can possibly be as GALACTICALLY stupid as you'd have to be to believe anything you're saying, so I have to assume you're yet another Republican fraud.

Yes, frauds --people who try to take advantage of others by spreading lies-- make me angry.

They make *all* decent people angry.

Now, will you just pretend you didn't say what you said before, and look for some other imbecilic lie to spread, or will you somehow go on pretending that 56 equals 73? (And then 100, and then 1000, etc.)

I know, it's a bad day for you. You've been caught in one gigantic lie, and now you have a tough choice. But you'll just rely on the fact --as *all* you guys always do-- that there are lots of other Republicans out there even stupider than you are,... and you'll find some other insanity you can sell to them.

Chin up.

sp2 wrote:

This was clearly a lie on your part, and is clearly unbelievably stupid.

It's hard for me to believe that you can possibly be as GALACTICALLY stupid as you'd have to be to believe anything you're saying, so I have to assume you're yet another Republican fraud.

Yes, frauds --people who try to take advantage of others by spreading lies-- make me angry.

They make *all* decent people angry.

You're only showing everyone your true motive: you want something to be MAD about. Another anger-porn sicko. Get help.

Find something you enjoy, and focus on that, instead of looking for things to lash out about.

The new "test everyone" approach in the US is rapidly revealing the truth already emerging in northern Europe: This is, like the cooler heads have been saying all along, no deadlier than the flu. Not only in terms of overall deaths, but not on a case by case basis either. Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, are all finding fatality rates of 0.5% or less with their wide-net testing. Germany is at 0.2% out of 7000 cases confirmed.

US death rate is now 1.7% and dropping fast. In all likelihood, the true number of infections out there is more than 40,000, not 4,000, for a real rate of 0.17%. Soon people will not be scared, and you'll have to find something else to be mad about. Unless you take my good advice, that is.