Could Paul Edwards, thrower banned for life, be telling the truth?

No legal or judicial process in arbitration, sure, but when people lie in court to the bigwigs (big whigs?) that's supposed to be frowned upon. If Paul Edwards was truly akin to Floyd Landis, which is to say pissed and willing to go nuclear because he wasn't allowed to come back to play in the sand lot like so many others were allowed to, then would that mean Seb Coe is the yet-to-be-punished Lance Armstrong?

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Justice wrote:

Another case of evidence being withheld and a conviction quashed and man let out of prison yet with Edwards and hiding evidence and cover ups nothing

First, there is no legal or judicial process in arbitration.

Second, the lawyers and panel members (they can do either job depending on the case) are mostly employed in one way or another by the sports federations. So, there is no independence.

The IAAF wants him gone and it seems like he won't go quietly. Ask Floyd Landis how that worked out.

Edwards was about at the same time a Coe and Andy Norman and Frank Dick.

He is not inclined to spill any beans rather it is the drug testers he is after as it was they who stitched him up.

OP2 wrote:

Edwards was about at the same time a Coe and Andy Norman and Frank Dick.

He is not inclined to spill any beans rather it is the drug testers he is after as it was they who stitched him up.

Was Andy Norman married to Tessa Sanderson or was that Frank Dick;either way an interesting combination.Pity walls can’t rememember.

The person who knows more than anyone is Dave Jenkins,400m.

He had a steroid Factory and did time for it.

He has stayed quite but one day .......

Now, if he did open up what would they do?

Would it be a fraud offence they would get our greats with as the statute of limitations would stop a drug offence.

It only takes one bender of a night and a few hundred characters on Twitter to make the house of cards fall.

Magic Orange wrote:

The person who knows more than anyone is Dave Jenkins,400m.

He had a steroid Factory and did time for it.

He has stayed quite but one day .......

Now, if he did open up what would they do?

Would it be a fraud offence they would get our greats with as the statute of limitations would stop a drug offence.

Fatima whitbread to andy norman

Married wrote:

Fatima whitbread to andy norman

Then they got divorced;don’t think Tessa Sanderson was involved but that would have made a great story and of course one never can be sure.Does anyone have anything interesting about this rumour.

Twittered wrote:

It only takes one bender of a night and a few hundred characters on Twitter to make the house of cards fall.

Magic Orange wrote:

The person who knows more than anyone is Dave Jenkins,400m.

He had a steroid Factory and did time for it.

He has stayed quite but one day .......

Now, if he did open up what would they do?

Would it be a fraud offence they would get our greats with as the statute of limitations would stop a drug offence.

Did UK Athletics keep sending their top athletes and coaches out to stay with Dave Jenkins after he did his prison term for making steroids?

As you say it would not take much with Twitter to create some fun.

Would make the Edwards case look very simple if that happened.

Sounds like this would be an interesting person to have a few beers with at the pub.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jenkins_(athlete)

Interesting Guy wrote:

Sounds like this would be an interesting person to have a few beers with at the pub.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jenkins_(athlete)

His factory was in Mexico and his degree was in Industrial chemistry at Edinburgh.

His first coach was John Anderson, coach to Dave Moorcroft to a WR at 5000m.

Other coach was David Hemery,400mh Olympic Champ and WR Mexico.And co silver medalist with Jenkins, 4x400 1972.

Could you make this up?

But not quite so bizzare as the Edwards case with Parliament being misinformed.

Past glories wrote:

Paul edwards was coached by John Anderson when he was international Decathlete

I can’t remembet, mainly because I am dead, but who finished this relationship?

Apparently professor cowan OBE used twice the amount of urine in the The B Test as he said the sample is unrecognisable i.e. no scientific quality why did he want to use twice as much did you know the result before the B test when procedures must follow the same for both tests.

Honest wrote:

Apparently professor cowan OBE used twice the amount of urine in the The B Test as he said the sample is unrecognisable i.e. no scientific quality why did he want to use twice as much did you know the result before the B test when procedures must follow the same for both tests.

This seems to mean that this is yet another illustration of how the process was not done according to the stated methods.

Might it have anything to do with the sawing open of the B sample container?

Makes the Russian/Sochi conspiracy look simples.

Apparently? Or is this fact?

Honest wrote:

Apparently professor cowan OBE used twice the amount of urine in the The B Test as he said the sample is unrecognisable i.e. no scientific quality why did he want to use twice as much did you know the result before the B test when procedures must follow the same for both tests.

Read the paper by Dr Davis .

Cowen and UKS were given the opportunity to respond to the paper and deny the breaches .They chose not to.

The hacksawing of the sample is fully agreed.

Facts of the last 20 years 1BAF Went bankrupt Administrators were not happy taking the case on David Moorcroft in charge of UK took case on I have a question about legal decision 2sample the PaperWorks numbers didn’t match PH levels 7.5 8.1 Professor cowan saidSamples in his Laboratory with that quality he would throw away He put that in writing to be continued we will go through the whole 20 years in detail

Credibility wrote:

Facts of the last 20 years 1BAF Went bankrupt Administrators were not happy taking the case on David Moorcroft in charge of UK took case on I have a question about legal decision 2sample the PaperWorks numbers didn’t match PH levels 7.5 8.1 Professor cowan saidSamples in his Laboratory with that quality he would throw away He put that in writing to be continued we will go through the whole 20 years in detail

Can anyone translate this into English?

I don't speak UK wrote:

Credibility wrote:

Facts of the last 20 years 1BAF Went bankrupt Administrators were not happy taking the case on David Moorcroft in charge of UK took case on I have a question about legal decision 2sample the PaperWorks numbers didn’t match PH levels 7.5 8.1 Professor cowan saidSamples in his Laboratory with that quality he would throw away He put that in writing to be continued we will go through the whole 20 years in detail

Can anyone translate this into English?

I agree, this case deserves the most basic level of literacy.

This must be the greatest example of murdering the language yet to be viewed on this forum, ever.

In the UK ,there is another case of a rape conviction being overthrown because of evidence hidden by the prosecution coming to light.

A Danny Kay has just been released.

In the Edwards case 600 pages were withheld and they contained evidence of urine substitution amongst many other things.

Yet nothing is done even after it is made clear that Parliament was misled.