GLIAC XC

Question mark - Are you serious? Southern Indiana will be #2. Grand Valley will take regionals. #3,4,5,6 will all be very close. Wayne State really showed up yesterday. As did Michigan Tech. Also Ferris State took a shit, which allowed WSU and MT to advance a bit in the results. Looking forward I think for regionals it will be 3. Ashland 4. Malone 5. Ferris 6. Hillsdale 7. Wayne St

Don't forget about schools from the GLVC that could make noise in the Regionals: Wisconsin-Parkside, Lewis, and Saint Joseph's.

I temporarily forgot about UW-Parkside. I think they'll be in 5 or 6 range. I don't see them cracking the top 4. Lewis most likely will be 8.

I think Regionals has a point. Malone finished 1 point behind Southern Indiana at the regional preview. Southern Indiana has a pretty large spread 1-5. I think GV wins with Ashland or Malone in the 2 or 3 spot with Southern Indiana taking the final spot. SI has a great 1-2 punch, but their spread is going to kill them when the GLIAC depth steps in.

Whitaker was not their third guy....

You put him third in your post.

I can't seem to find that post...was it deleted?

Giggleshits wrote:

I think Regionals has a point. Malone finished 1 point behind Southern Indiana at the regional preview. Southern Indiana has a pretty large spread 1-5. I think GV wins with Ashland or Malone in the 2 or 3 spot with Southern Indiana taking the final spot. SI has a great 1-2 punch, but their spread is going to kill them when the GLIAC depth steps in.

Great post, and thinking about it I also agree. Guy and Pence should be All-American. But there is a huge gap between them, and nobody gathered behind them closely. You don't see Hillsdale, Ferris, or UW-Parkside clinching a final spot in replace of Ashland or Malone? I'm not counting those 3 teams. I love this close race.

I don't recall saying Whitaker was their third runner. I certainly didn't say that about yesterday's race. I may have mentioned him as one of their quality runners preseason or early season. Unless you are referring to another poster.

The times they list in the article for Guy and Pence are not the times listed in the results. Probably from another meet.

Strange. I know they did not run those times at their last race, the pre-regional invite, either. Well, they won, UW-Parkside looked great, as did Lewis.

Original results were incorrect. Times listed in the press release were from the original incorrect results

Well...Malone did well yesterday because Coach Hazen is in charge of that team now.

They got rid of the coach from last year and I don't know if he is doing much now.

Malone to compete at Nationals?

hmmm....

How has Malone's training changed from last year?

Are there any current runners, or alumni, who would like to share any insite as to what their current or former teams training is like?

D2 power wrote:

Don't want to be that guy... but this course was definitely short. Many guys ran at least a minute faster than they have all season.

Race Analysis: Ashland really came through. Their 3-5 showed up and gave Malone a serious scare. The battle at Regionals will be intense. Hillsdale and Ferris disappointed.

That was a fast course, but certainly not short. I would say most of the teams in this race had big PR's for 3 reasons...

1. The course was fast.

2. It's GLIACs. People want to run fast in front of a bigger crowd.

3. I would guess that a lot of teams are peaking for this race. They would have to peak if they want any chance of beating GV and/or competing for 2nd or 3rd.

75% of the guys had pretty honest PRs for a conference championship. If you look through the top 10 a lot of guys had 20-45sec PRs. Baum had around a 45sec PR, Hall 45sec, Roush 20sec, Trusty 35sec which is to be expected if you are peaking. The GV guys had some PRs but not huge PRs... Peterson didn't PR, Cini 20sec PR, Chris 35sec Flores was way off.

Moral of the story: Fast times does not mean short course.

So you're saying the course is short

At the end of the day, you have to take a look at the results. Disregard time, it's completely irrelevant since teams in other conferences don't run on the same 8k course. When I take a look at the results I see GV 33 points, Malone 67pts and Ashland 68 points. Comparing AVG time from GV or Malone to what USI did is completely ridiculous. I mean it's apple to oranges.

This bickering over the course is a little over dramatic don't you think? I mean track season is right around the corner. Times don't mean anything in XC it's more a team sport. Track is all about times.

Regional rankings are a joke

By a joke, do you mean right on?