CENTRO!!!!! CENTRO!!! CENTRO!!!!!!

Noooone hear wrote:

Coach Li wrote: Noone tested +

Proof? Evidence? Source?

kjhgjkhgjhg wrote:

Second, of course they're separate tests, but not separate violations. Look here:

Yes, but athletes should not be expected to disclose A-sample results. For all we know clean athletes have had positive A-samples due to screwed up tests, that never became public. I am not sure how possible that is, but it should be agreed upon that an A-sample alone doesn't count.

cbenson4 wrote:

Oh yeah, I agree with you. I was just pointing out what kjhgjkhgjhg is getting at. If it ain't specific it ain't nothin.

Also, I doubt very much it was written by Centro. If it was, he wouldn't be getting his money's worth from his agent and sponsors. This is why I view it as suspect. If it's too carefully worded, it might have been worded that way for a reason.

Letsrun is trolling us.

Matthew Centrowitz Jr. wrote:

Noooone hear wrote:

Proof? Evidence? Source?

A few things.

1) We at LetsRun.com believe a discussion of all-things anti-doping including unconfirmed allegations leads to a cleaner sport. We have always said that when it comes to anti-doping we will err on the side of allowing discussion. For too long the sport did not have an honest discussion of doping. We are going to err on the side of allowing too much discussion.

2) We at LetsRun.com do not pre-screen content. We do not have a truth detector for posts. We let third parties post their opinion. Most of you get that. Thus, there is a lot of speculation that many runners may or may not be doping.

3) While legally we have no obligation to determine the veracity of a post:

if we know for a fact something is false and it is brought to our attention we will remove it.

4) Turning to more specifics, to something like this thread, some of you might believe, if someone says, "Athlete X" tested positive" that can be confirmed or denied. It's a simple factual matter right? Not so fast.

Not saying at all that this happened here, but take Lance Armstrong for example, there were allegations he tested positive and it was covered up. If someone posted that 10 years ago, and it could not be confirmed should we delete the thread? Or swap Centrowitz's name with Asbel Kiprop's. Would your reaction to whether this thread should stay or be deleted be the same? What if we swap it out with Makloufhi's name? What if the language was slightly softer "I heard Athlete X tested positive."? The point is, what many people see as "facts" are not really "facts".

5) I reached out to Ricky Simms, Centro's agent today and alerted him to this thread, told him why it was our policy to allow such discussion and told him the best way I felt to combat it if false, was to issue a statement. Thus, I was glad to see before Ricky got back me that Centro has issued two tweets that address some of the rumors in this thread. I'm putting the tweets below.

6) As for people who say we leave this thread up for page views and ad revenue, I disagree. We didn't feature it on the homepage or promote it at all. I'm clearly pissing off a some of you by leaving it up. The few extra $ from a few page views on one day are not worth it, if I turn you off of letsrun for good. I believe in clean sport, believe in letting people discuss unpopular measures, and will stick by that. That is one reason so many of you do come back and I thank you for that.

Feel free to email me

if you would like to discuss further.

"Anonotwit reporters" on LetsRun claimed he failed a drug test (implying B-sample positive).

Centrowitz claimed he is racing the outdoor season as normal (implying no failed drug tests).

That clear enough for people?

Hey HardLoper! Just wanted to say hi friend =).

How do you embed tweets into a post? I'm going to try below:

2014 @bostonmarathon news @djritzenhein and Moses Mosop are out, @ryanhall3 and @Abdi_runs are in!! @jhboston26

http://t.co/0LEAH1dnuM&mdash

; LetsRun.com (@letsrundotcom) March 3, 2014

This thread has now jumped the shark.

Once it becomes official, any sanctions show up here:http://www.usada.org/sanctions/.

HardLoper wrote:

kjhgjkhgjhg wrote:

So what is he denying?

That he doped. What the heck do you think he's denying?

Very well said.

Yep, I'm calling it here now that Wejo has responded. This whole thing has been a sham from the start, but a darn good one at that. No more replies from me.

How did he dispel the ugly rumors? Dispel means to cause to vanish, distinguish.

He tweeted:

...I would like to categorically dispel any ugly rumors as to why I missed a few races. I will be racing in the outdoor season as normal.

He did nothing to dispel the rumors. To "...categorically (I am sure he did not learn how to use and spell this word at Oregon, but instead his agent/attorney wrote this) dispel any ugly rumors..."

He offers nothing. No explanation. This statement could not be more empty.

Wejo - Thanks for weighing in here. While I understand why you want to allow discussion on unconfirmed allegations of doping by specific athletes, can you shed some light on why this thread has been removed three times and then put back up each time ? What was behind the decision to remove it and what prompted you to put it back up three times ?

Wejo is also saying that it's not a known fact that Centro didn't test positive.

Wejo, nicely said.

Why can the brojos sometimes write long and grammatically correct pieces and sometimes they can't spell their names right?

jos hermens wrote:

Why is it that this thread stays up - when the threads discussion Bekele's doping (with links to articles re: doping doctors working with bekele) are immediately deleted?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics-claims-over-a-doping-network-are-crazy-says-hermens-425356.html

Also wanted to reply to the above. We had multiple threads on Hermens. See here (one I started myself):

and here:

just doing a quick search.

I even remember Jos mentioning it to me at NYC one year. I'd like everyone to like me in the sport, but I realize that's not possible if I'm doing my job.

On Feb. 3, Flotrack reported Centrowitz would miss the 2014 indoor season due to illness. According to coach Alberto Salazar, Centrowitz contracted a "bad viral infection that needed him to take medication."

Salazar's grey area use of "medicine" has finally crossed over to black.

K5 wrote:

How did he dispel the ugly rumors? Dispel means to cause to vanish, distinguish.

He tweeted:

...I would like to categorically dispel any ugly rumors as to why I missed a few races. I will be racing in the outdoor season as normal.

He did nothing to dispel the rumors. To "...categorically (I am sure he did not learn how to use and spell this word at Oregon, but instead his agent/attorney wrote this) dispel any ugly rumors..."

He offers nothing. No explanation. This statement could not be more empty.

How the hell do you expect Centro to explain some troll thread on LR? How is that his responsibility? How about the OP come on here and offer an explanation?

He denied the positive doping allegation. There is nothing else to explain. God knows there is no explanation to the trolling that goes on here.

Get a life and move on.